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After 5.5 years of study, experimentation, etc., I would say it's even more than that.

Ormus is present in brain and bone marrow, many plants and soils, and all seawater, as well as some air. We all try it, simply by having a physical body. It's already there. On another note, Dan Winter is not a particularly well-versed Ormus researcher. Saying Ormus can be addicting is like saying food can be. Sure it can. Some foods a lot more than others. There's a very large Yahoo group devoted to Ormus, and several smaller ones, as well as the whitegold mailing list. There's about as much bullshit surrounding Ormus as there is around martial arts/meditation/qigong/etc., so be prepared, if you investigate. There's also some truly mind-blowing stuff there, too, just like martial arts/meditation/qigong/etc.. It just depends. Ask me if you have questions. I certainly don't know it all, but...I've been studying it for about 5 or 6 years now, and have spends thousands of dollars, thousands of hours, and lots of time and energy doing experiments and studying Ormus.

I'd rather eat a diet that doesn't require intensive therapy just to allow me to function in the real world. 80/10/10 just jacks my brain and emotions all up, I can't even be around people when I eat like that, I start avoiding my friends, it gets scary, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone ever, except as a "see, I told you that doesn't work" tough-love method. The worst part is needing to be lying down for 12 hours a day. I hate that, and it really cramps my lifestyle. I only need half the time lying down eating the raw paleo diet as I did when I ate the 80/10/10, and I sleep the same amount on both. That's sobering. This isn't a natural human diet. We need animal products. Only extremely high-level yogis can go without food and/or animal products, and I know a lot of people who THOUGHT they were at that level, and weren't, and learned the hard way. The VERY hard way. But do what you want, bro. I know what works. You know what makes a pretty theory. Who do you think will last longer? ROFL

Let me know if you'll be down there anytime. I go every 3-4 years. What do you do down there for fun? Have you been up to Monteverde Park or Marina Ballena park in Uvita? I think your plan makes sense, although I'd definitely get the fat levels up to at least 30% of calories. Also, I'd go for the best quality sashimi. Experiment, go with what works, don't get dogmatic, and be open. You'll get there. I'm a mod over at the raw paleo forum, I'm cherimoya_kid...if you have questions, that's the place. Come hang out there if you feel like it.l

I did it for about 8 months very strictly, and pretty close to 80/10/10 for several months before that. I just got worse as time passed. Even if you avoid the watery fruits (they destroy your teeth fast) you will still suffer neurological problems in the long run, simply from the lack of fat. I have a number of friends who did it for many months, and who were very unhappy with the results. Your body needs fat and animal products, especially your brain. What I find is that people who do a tremendous amount of traveling and physical exercise can get away with 80/10/10 for much, much longer. It may still be doing serious brain damage, though. Dr. Doug can get away with it because the panic attacks and other brain problems seem to be reduced by traveling a great deal, and he's on the road 11 months a year. He also does a lot of physical exercise, which helps reduce the sugar highs. Are you still living in Costa Rica, Sean? I've spent several months there, and have found some great sources of good fruit, coconuts, and other good raw foods there.

80/10/10 is fine short-term, but your body needs some more fat than that, long-term. Also, you need some animal products too. 80/10/10 seriously damaged my health. I know a lot of others who have had their health compromised by it, as well.

Absolutely. A high-level internal master could easily destroy each and every MMA fighter in the ring today. Don't believe me? Then I refer you to mjjbecker's post, above.

Well, no offense, but I think I myself might actually know more 4 pillars astrology than you, and I don't consider myself anywhere NEAR the same level as my good Hindu friend, and he is nowhere NEAR the level of some the better astrologers that he knows. If you're interested, email or PM me.

It is quite possible. I can put you in touch with a very, very gifted astrologer.

From what I can see in that video, I can tell he definitely has excellent martial arts skills, and my standards are very high in that area. If you say he has those skills, ShaktiMama, I'm prepared to accept the possibility. He moves, if anything, almost better than my sifu, and my sifu very definitely had tremendous martial and chi abilities.

It's no worse than the pursuit of money, sex, political power, etc., roughly speaking. That's my opinion. The reason I don't spend more time on it is twofold-- 1. I fear that I'll spend so much time developing a particular skill that it will affect my relationships with others. 2. I really wonder if I'll ever really need it. There's more than 1 way to accomplish a particular end. But I wouldn't tell people NOT to spend time on such things. I say, if life throws it in your lap, and you like it, and it's not going to seriously disrupt your life, have fun with it. But yeah, there are plenty of people (on this board, and in the world in general) who would take such a thing too far. Just like we have Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, who have more money than they'll ever need, and who would have better served themselves and the world by taking a few more walks/naps or playing a few more video games or hanging out with friends/family more, you will also have similar extremely driven/talented people who train esoteric powers to excess. The same is true for getting high, getting laid, etc. It can be taken to excess, and sometimes is. If you don't see the wisdom glowing out of that paragraph, I cannot help you, nor would I want to, my friend. I know you're laughing at me. It's OK. I'm laughing back, even harder. It's like the Tao Te Ching says "Fools laugh. The Tao laughs harder." Not that you're a fool, just that you simply have not (yet, maybe) the necessary experiences. You wouldn't expect a pygmy in Africa to believe that satellites are flying around in space, or that the speed of time flow is controlled by gravity. He just doesn't have the background knowledge/experience, right?

I don't know, there were a few times when we camr pretty darn close to total nuclear annihilation. We're still in nuclear danger on a smaller scale because of terrorists and crazy dictators. I fear that weapons that used these energies would take us several decades to get to a point of safety from total annihilation, just like it took us several decades to come to a basic worldwide semi-consensus re: nukes. I definitely think that, if Moore's Law keeps holding true, we will eventually recognize and accept and use these energies. They are a part of us/Life/nature. I'm pretty sure that at least some of them are quite controllable and harnessable, and do conform well to as-yet-undiscovered mathematical/scientific equations and rules. I see no point in rushing worldwide awareness of these energies. But, if you want to push that boulder up that hill...LOL

Power is neutral. Nobel thought that dynamite would be used purely for good. Guess what? Not. The same with nuclear power. If you think nukes are scary, just imagine a large-scale machine that could harness these energies. Yeah, just as scary. What really scares me is the thought that some Muslim extremist might develop such a machine and kill a few million people. Yeah, I think I'll let that day come later versus sooner. If you want to reveal all this to the world, go find someone who has mastered these skills. The ball's in your court, my friend.

I do not think you have thought this through. I don't actually know how long it takes to develop these abilities. I don't have them. For that matter, I really don't believe that practicing this stuff makes you a better person, or at least not automatically. A real fanatic will do what it takes to cause harm, even if he has to work years and years at it. The 9/11 hijackers spent years learning to fly planes and study martial arts. Spreading this stuff around will have no net effect on the problems that come with black magic. As soon as a particular ability is released publicly, everybody has access to it, and it's a wash. I repeat--there are reasons these things are secret. Some of them have to do with the world not getting any better if they are released, or maybe worse, and others have to do with the practitioners not wanting to get harrassed. Nobody wants eager prospective students, government agents, and skeptics calling and bothering them. Let's say you worked for a bank. Would you spread information around the internet about the holes in the bank's IT security systems? You could justify it by saying that the bank will eventually close those holes, if they are publicly known. Meanwhile, thousands of people could/would have their bank accounts emptied by hackers. Every release of secret information has its costs and benefits. Sudden releases have more extreme effects, wouldn't you say? Who wants extreme effects? Not me, I don't think.

I think many/most of them are like my teacher. He was very serious about not letting this kind of teaching get into the wrong hands. If Muslim extremists and black magicians get more of these kinds of abilities, I don't think all of the results will be a better, safer planet, do you? It's the same reason that it's a good idea to keep nukes and other weapons out of the hands of Muslim extremists. I think the original reason to keep these things secret is because some people are...very evil. There are a lot of very dark black-magic-using tongs and triads in China. As well, these days, we also have sociopaths, people with very deep-seated racial or religious hatred, very angry people with violent tendencies and little self-control, etc. Not only that, with the internet, this kind of teaching can be spread very easily, and it gets very hard to control who has access to what. It may be better to keep these things secret, for the moment.

I am quite certain that there are a few people capable of living very healthily on a vegan diet, long-term, because they have had the right combination of training, environment, and genetic gifts. The vast majority of people, though, who think they are doing just fine on a vegan diet are not, though. They are setting themselves up for some serious neurological problems, long-term. You run the risk of doing harm by talking about veganism as though just anyone, living anywhere, with any constitution, can do it easily and healthily. Enough people delude themselves without your help. Either change your tune to more accurately reflect how difficult it is to have good neurological health on a vegan diet, long-term, or please stop talking. I'm begging you.

Your ignorance is entertaining. As they say--"Fools laugh. It laughs harder." Perhaps someday someone might bother to reveal these kinds of abilities in a very public, scientifically-tested way. But I don't give a damn. I know what I've experienced, and I know the best martial artists in China, and in the world, are the ones that have mastered these energies. The skepticism of the uninitiated is entertaining. There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. LOL Shit, there are more things in just China. Heck, probably more things in a 50 mile radius from your house. LOL

I have no idea if he could teach anyone on the astral plane, let alone if he would. With that guy, very little would surprise me, either way. Chi bubble? Wouldn't it be easier to just buy a plane ticket, than learn all these crazy esoteric skills? You are missing the very real possibility that 1. These skills could take decades to master 2. You might have to study with someone for many years, even to get them to teach you this stuff. I know you're playing with me. But, it's like they say, "Fools laugh. It laughs harder."

W e i J i a T z u J a n M e n. I'm spacing that out so as not to get attention from the wrong folks. It's a nearly-extinct system, itself, because he was the last of 37 inheritors of the full system, and he did not pass the full system on to anyone, and he died. Unless he's going to be teaching via the astral plane, that system may, in its full form, have ended. However, he said that there are a number of others that teach pretty much the same stuff. Most of those people are going to be in China, though. You might could find a few in New York Chinatown, or San Francisco or Seattle Chinatowns. Levitation is definitely possible, according to him. He wouldn't teach it, but I'm pretty sure he knew how. I'm not sure levitation would, in and of itself, be a good replacement for plane flight. You would need some really advanced skills to be able to survive going 500 miles per hour in open air. You wouldn't be able to breathe, and your skin would probably suffer severe wind burn. Of course, you might have been joking, in which case,

Such things are possible, but I'd say 80% of the people who claim those abilities publicly are fakes. That's a totally made-up statistic, but I bet it's not too far off. I actually know at least one person with abilities far beyond this stuff, but he didn't talk about it much. He demonstrated it from time to time on me and some others of his martial arts students. I don't think he ever taught it to anyone, though. There are definitely some guys in China and probably India/Tibet with these abilities and more. It might take some searching...but if you have the knack for finding such people, like me, it's probably not impossible. I waver back and forth between "Wow, I'd love to know how that's done!" and "When the heck will I ever even need to know that stuff?" LOL.

Being vegan made me pretty sick. I'm not saying it absolutely can't be done healthily, but that's like saying that I'm not sure that I can't walk into an active volcano safely. Maybe I COULD walk into the volcano and survive, by spending 50 years developing certain esoteric powers, but so what? You're much safer including some high-quality raw or lightly-cooked animal products. Again, let me direct you to the Raw Paleo Forum, where I moderate. Please don't post in support of veganism there, I ban posters who post in support of veganism within a few posts. Feel free to read, though, and post if you can avoid supporting veganism in your posts.

Veganism is fine for a few months, maybe even a couple of years. However, your brain needs certain tings like Vitamin B-12 and certain fatty acids that are not found much in plant foods. It's much safer to eat at least some high-quality animal products like fish eggs, fresh fatty ocean fish, grass-fed beef/venison/lamb, and other animal foods, preferably raw. You'll generally do better eating raw or only lightly cooked. I am a moderator at the Raw Paleo Forum, my name is cherimoya_kid. You can learn a lot over there. Feel free to read there.

Stokowski was pretty great. Kleiber too.

I'm still about 95-98% raw. My health is excellent, my joints are in better shape now than 10 years ago in my early 20s, I have more energy than ever, and my stamina and strength and flexibility are excellent. I eat a lot of raw animal foods, particularly seafoods, plus some fruits, and raw meat/organs. I eat bone meal and healing clays for extra minerals, and I take a vitamin D supplement when I am not getting enough sun exposure. It's not a religion. I do it because I'm addicted to having this much energy, stamina, and health.