salaam123

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Hello, has anybody some advice, about how to keep my jing, and not having it always falling to the ground? I can feel it going to the ground about 2/3 times a day and it always feels depressing. The reason why I can't keep it in my body is that due to some very incorrect body feel, my belt channel is in my chest now and I have been trying to put it back in the midsection for 4 years now. I have come to know now that the belt channel is what keeps the jing from leaking to the ground. I can save some other type of jing due to correct body positioning but not this one which falls to the ground. Thanks in advance!

thanks friends for commenting and kind words. Edward M, thanks I will try that to see if it helps.

Hi all, I got a new problem. I have been trying to increase the weight chi( the chi that determines the center of the weight, feels like slowly moving liquid that can be in your stomach and partly in the arms aswell), by focusing it in the lower dan tien and letting the legs carry the weight fof the lower dan tien. In the beginning it felt good and I had the energy to get up from the bed earlier than before(I usually can't get up until very late, I don't have the energy at all), and I felt easier around people. However, it went to the legs and does not stay in the lower dan tien. I have tried to getting it upwards to the arms and it does leave the legs sometimes when I give pressure to the legs. Now im just trying to get it out of the legs because it doesn't feel good and I can't interact with people well. How can I keep it from flowing to the legs and where is it supposed to be focused? Behind the navel does not seem to work for me either? thanks in advance.

I can now keep the weight on ldantien and ldantiens weight is carried by the legs. I realized that ldantien must also be supported by the heel(it is connected to other parts of the leg too. this way(in addition to perineum and spine feel) the weight chi does not go down to the feet.

I found a way to counter this problem. the weight chi is supposed to circulate to the spine and it goes there from the ldantien(or from the ground if you have is stuck there) by focusing on the perineum and the spine. Upper part of the spine I think, the point which leads the chi to the arms(in macrocosmic orbit) or the neck too maybe?

thanks for the replies. I managed to get it out but I did it by imagining that the leg pressure originates from ming men, not lower dan tien. It took it out of the legs but at the same time all(or most) of the weight chi(is it called earth chi?) disappeared. So I guess the leg pressure should originate from ldantien so weight chi gets generated maybe. I have been trying to generate it back for 2 days now but only a small amount of it has been generated back. Because of it, I feel uneasy being around some people(those whose energy I can't face properly) or in a crowd.

Hello all, If anyone could draw or post a detailed photo of macrocosmic orbit, especially the leg channels, pictured also from the front of the body(not from the side only) I would be very appreciated. Also, if anyone has a tip about how to keep jing from leaking down(I don't have a belt channel in the correct place in the midsection to retain jing, I have the belt channel in my chest due to incorrect practices) I would be VERY appreciated. Now if I eat something, the energy from the food leaks down to the ground. Thanks!

thanks for the site! Very good information! So does the macrocosmic orbit also follow the meridians only? I welcome all advice, but I don't want distance healing done to me. Right now, I believe that if I can get the jing to stay in my stomach and spine, I will be able to contract the vertebras, opening the diaphgram to give space and the belt channel will fall again to my midsection. I have also tried other ways to drop it, but I have been unsuccesful so far. I have this condition since 2012 spring. Im not in terrible shape, but since I don't have jing or have it very little, my body saves some of the calories from the food I eat into a beer belly, thus increasing my cholesterol levels.

Thanks for the input and advice. No, I haven't masturbated much, I try to be selibate but I've fallen about twice a year for masturbation during recent years, more for porn but not much of that either this year.

Hello all ------edit. Please watch that your dan tien ball does not rise up when you do the following. You can root before you do this.---------- One thing you must do to have good chi is to drop your spine vertebraes on top of each other starting from the head. This will somehow build the chi so it will flow to your central channel. If your vertebraes are not sunk(most people nowadays have not), then the chi will not generate in spine and circulate properly. If you feel bad then drop your spine to the level of your navel only(ming men point). The chi that will build from spine and circulate is sort of "sparkling chi" while the chi that is in the spine and behind belly button is the chi you get from food and air("green chi"). What you must also do is to speak from dan tien(nowadays many people speak in a way that the chi from the dan tien(sphere) has dropped down to the legs and wont´t circulate properly). This way your voice will also have more "authority" or "power". Also, I can´t do these things because I have ruined my body so that my girdle channel is inside my chest(and thus I dont have "green chi" in my spine) and I can´t get it down because my body is full of "junk" so it(the girldle channel) can´t be moved downwards. In order for me to get the "junk" away I have to get rid of the mark of the beast so the Holy Spirit will come and my body will be purified from this "junk". The mark of the beast is sort of a blockage on the third eye point and it will go away when the energy system is corrected in a way explained above. I don´t know if you have to have faith in Jesus Christ also but it will help(because the chi is enrichened by the blood of Christ). There is another type of mark too but it doesn´t have to do with chi. My hope is, that if someone corrects their chi and then if I could be near them, their chi would cleanse me of the mark and so I could try to correct my chi again. I live in Finland, so if you will follow this posts advice and are here, please contact me. Also, when you have your spine vertebraes corrected, even though you will feel better, people around you will find themselves uncomfortable if they dont sink their spine vertebrae also. But don´t let this put you down. My reason for keeping my energy well(if I could) would be because of my faith(the blood of Christ is in the chi, enriching it). One last thing, when you have your chi, you can defend yourself by sort of anchoring your chi. If you want to know more let me know. greetings, Salaam123

well, The Holy Spirit does not completely go away from inside the body(there is no feeling of emptiness, for example), but It does not manifest as well as without the mark, also people can´t see It in your eyes anymore.

let the vertebraes drop all the way down to the tailbone, I believe now. You will see results if you have done what I told before in this thread

Some people could say also that chi is imaginary...

Theres no advice in the Bible about how to do chi kung or how to get better chi by manipulating the body(in my opinion some blockages can open by themselves with proper faith and love). But it does have things to do with chi, as I have explained before. Btw, off-topic but the bible hasnt been rewritten and edited many times, althought there were some books left out of it when it was formed(like the book of Enoch). Those however can be read elsewhere.

Jeff, the mark of the beast is a mark prophecied in the Revelations book in the New Testament. For example here: "Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads And that no man might buy or sell, saue he that had the marke, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Of course you can buy stuff from the store even without the mark but youll get the mark if your energy is dropped below your feet. This dropping can happen if you buy sinful stuff or if your energy is below the feet because of speech. Energy drops below the feet if sin is done: hebrews 10: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? I can´t feel the Holy Spirit in the same way because of the mark. It blocks the Holy Spirit from entering the body in the way without the mark. Well, I can feel one type of chi, the chi that leakes sometimes from my abdomen to the ground(because of my bad root channel) but I can´t feel any sparkling type of chi or any other type of chi.

although I might add that it could be that I felt bad because I had not enough chi in the spine to start with(I had bad energy system before too, although not as bad as now). But, I think the spine should be dropped( I did that also about a decade ago and all went very well) but one should feel how it feels and act accordingly of course

ok. I noticed (before when I could do it that) that dropping the vertebraes too tight was not good when kept like that for some time. Maybe one should not force them too tight.

yeah, it could be that too but the thing I tried to explain is more detailed.

what is slouching? btw. This spine thing comes from Erle Montaigues teachings, I picked it up from there so credit goes to him.

I posted here about two years ago about my problem which is that I trained incorrectly energy practices and my dan tien area has risen to my chest and the place in the spine where energy is stored is also stuck in my chest. Because of this I have depression and a feeling of emptiness which means that I have no joy in my life. Also I cannot gather all of the chi that comes from the food as the chi is stored in dan tien and the spine I know this because I remember what it was like to eat food when my body was fine and because I don´t feel strong and healthy anymore. This problem has now lasted about 2 years and I have thought about suicide alot, but Im afraid that I might end up in hell if I do that so that has stopped me from trying yet. I really miss that feeling of having normal chi and being able to enjoy life. I would rather be in a wheelchair or to be a slave for all my life than to have this condition. If there is anyone in the world who can help I would like to know. Maybe some sort of surgery could help? Thank you.

Thank you all from answers. The reason why I have not done much to help this problem because I have not had much faith in that someone could actually cure me. I did go to a christian faith healer(my brother got cured from his backpain this way) but it did not work. But now I will try to get more help.

I imagined a space in my chest, and this opened up a path for my dan tien to get inside my chest.