soaring crane

ok, all rocks in Franconian Germany are old

As have all stones. A friend told me that he'd spent the day at a museum, "looking at old rocks". I replied, "all rocks are old ".

yeah, l that's basically what I saying/thinking, just wording it differently (in a quickie post from my phone)

Something else interesting: It's a history book, describing the fall of the Shang dynasty and the rise of the Zhou :-)

The king wen arrangement is traditional and no one can really tell us exactly why it is the way it is. But the hexagrams are mostly arranged in pairs if you look at them. Turn 3 upside down and you get 4, etc... 1 and 2,and 27-30 are the exceptions and there are other structural patterns, but the reasoning behind it all is conjecture.

Ouch!

The OP resonates with me. Quite, yes. Both scenarios, hoping for God and believing in your self, expose a lack of genuine faith in... the universe?

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How can we know?

I think you'll understand when I point out that your post is simply perpetuating that karmic undercurrent, CT. And when I wrote 'stop it, please', I meant precisely that.

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above and beyond, I'd say. Thanks! :-)

I compromised and put it in Taoist Discussion (it's actually a book discussion, but that's ok. This book in particular is so well-known it's kind of an entity unto its own). Btw -- our Taomeow has some experience: http://www.laoziacademy.us/2009_russia.htm

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interesting concept watching Star Trek TNG Deja vu? It's Q

or perhaps people who do understand Dao also understand that some other people equate it with God, and so write their words to be all-inclusive? anyway, I often suggest ppl simply meditate on their own body, because the body always exists in the here and now and nowhere or when else.

won't travel so far, will sit in my little cave, gazing at a star. (grrr ... the white pussy cat beat me by three minutes. Now you know how long I spend on these things)

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Wiesengong Sehr schön danke :-)

Nice :-)

Good point, thanks. I should have caught that!

I just want to say thanks for one of the more sensible posts on the subject :-)