soaring crane

you know.

I can't quite warm to the word, neither.

it is a very silly thought, isn't it?

I disagree. The western industrial revolution began with the Brits and expanded to the continent and the former colonies. ok, of course it'd be "different" in a few ways. Geopolitically, North America would be sliced up differently, but technologically and economically, the same basic situation we have today would have evolved with or without the US. Seems to me also that the English today are hell-bent on reunification for some reason.

What are they concerned about then, if not jing>qi>shen>qi>jing?

Your "modest" understanding harmonizes with mine very, well, harmoniously I would add though, that stillness is where the Jing is developed most strongly, so, 'not moving at all' is an important, if not the important pearl on the necklace.

In intelligent amounts and natural form, sure. But long-term, high doses of synthetic vitamin supplements are unnatural and a burden on the kidneys, to start with. To take Horus as an example - he's enjoying a wonderful effect from his B12 shots, pretty much everyone does. At first. But it would be foolish to think that they're key Horus's everlasting happiness can be found in a vitamin injection. That euphoric effect will ebb, and the effectiveness of subsequent injections will also fade. Then what? Bump up the dose? More frequent injections? At some point your system is saturated and busy eliminating the excess.

*that way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. badump-bump-pssshhh... *credit goes to Jack Handy

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That's why I used imagery in the OP. The other stuff is superfluous.

now you're sorry you asked! haha

yep http://thetaobums.com/forum/371-spotless/ also - I never realized that they were actually PPD's ... wha...??? Was that changed at some point?

ok, spotless, since you were kind enough to like my previous post, it's, get ready for it... it's Personal Practice Forum (the forums that some member have in their own names - I think you have one, no?) edit - ah, the bossman was quicker

It was a yearning for authentic druid knowledge and practices that eventually led me to Daoism. I believe there were many correlations, but as Chang pointed out, the real history was eliminated (and corrupted) by the Romans, and modern ideas are only educated conjecture. // Also, I've yet to read a truly convincing argument that Jesus actually lived as a historical figure, let alone spent time as a tourist in Europe. I won't debate the subject, and it''s totally OT to begin with and I've been involved in deadend debates on the subject in the past, but since it came up, I felt enttled to at least make a side comment about it. //

you're so sweet

something about jing?

thanks for bumping this one! :-)

I'm old enough that I have to wiki things like 'yolo', and am usually ashamed that I went to the effort.

From the inside out Lifeforce twirling, dancing. Centrifugal force.

must have been something you did. thanks a lot

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i just want to make clear that this is the only thing I was criticising in my previous post. The problem for me is, Xumingtang talks about this ancient lineage all the time. So it becomes a question of character. I also, as I mentioned previously, and Walker also brought up, believe he can be reckless in his teachings i.e. introducing advanced techniques to complete novices, without any mention of problems that can occur. Example: his introductory seminars started (and I mean right in the first minutes) with 30 minutes standing followed by intense qi-ball building (between the hands - bigger, smaller, etc), and then an aggressive and fast form of microcosmic orbit, also for about half an hour. And this with relatively large groups of complete strangers.

I find Tom Bisio's books to be a relaible source of solid, basic information (in easy-to-read format haha) http://www.amazon.com/Gua-Circle-Walking-Nei-Gong/dp/1432796895/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404634404&sr=8-1&keywords=tom+bisio+bagua And I like Kent Howard's atmosphere: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kent+howard+bagua