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Sheng zhen, great analogy. Reality has far more depth and dimension than dreams. There may be elements of the dream that are real, But to critically examine what is real and what isn't, beyond subjective opinions, I think would take a lot more discussion of epistemology. Freesun, most homeopathic practitioners use the classical approach which doesn't usually use isodes but sticks to what they call constitutional prescribing - one remedy that's supposed to be THE one for you.. unless you happen upon a particular practitioner who thinks outside the box . Heilkunst practitioners are a better bet, www.homeopathy.com/clinic Lozen, just for the record .. the remedy doesn't "make" you trip out or anything else - it simply destroys the impingement on your life force caused by the drug or disease. What you experience after that are healing reactions, which come from the natural healing power of your body as it's working to rebalance things. Each person experiences a healing reaction differently, and it's not always noticeable. -Karen

Not that anything needs to be added to that.. but I think it's interesting that people worry about forgetting things, not about remembering things - it would be pretty awful if we remembered everything!

Welcome to the club! -Karen, hunter/gatherer/shopper of grass-fed bison

It's the same as other psychoactive plants in terms of causing energetic disturbances. It's pretty interesting to look at the materia medica of these substances and read through the detailed descriptions of the effects. The relationship that the native shaman has with that substance is different from ours, as their consciousness and whole relationship to the natural world is different from ours. We can't just participate in the same activities and get the same results. About removing the disturbances caused by these substances - it's very doable with homeopathic isodes. They're diluted/potentized forms of the same substance, used on the basis of the law of similars ("like cures like"). Although for people who've done these drugs over a period of time, it may take some time and repeated doses of the isode. In the US, we can't buy isodes of illegal substances, even though the end product is so diluted that it doesn't even contain one molecule of the original substance! (It contains the energy signature). But there are pracitioners who use these and can work with people anywhere in the world. And anyway, it's best to have a skilled practitioner give the proper dose and potency, and at the proper time. There may be other disturbances that would need to be cleared first, before that one can be addressed, so all these things really call for professional treatment. -Karen

Yeah, I have fond memories too. My sense is that there's a lesson here, about what exactly is that intimate connection that we're looking for. The kind of high we get from the drug culture, and the feeling of connection that comes with it, is perhaps not what the true self really needs. We need connection for sure, but sometimes we have to let go of the old ways of getting it, to find new ones that are more deeply satisfying on the soul/spiritual level. And that may mean going through some lean times, when we quit indulging the false ego's desires but we're not feeling plugged in at the higher level yet. -Karen

Hi darebak, Someone who can use opium with real mastery over those forces, can do it without harm, but most of us can't. It's a matter of making a sound judgment, not fear. By the same token, being healthy doesn't mean avoiding all challenges all the time - actually we need experiences now and then that give us more of a workout! But we want our workouts to be strengthening not weakening. Everyone has their subjective experience, of course, but the effects of these things can be objectively seen, too. -Karen

You're welcome, Eric. For me personally, the dementia as a sign that the person is leaving soon, is a great gift to me, bittersweet at it is. It reminds me to cultivate the spiritual relationship which isn't limited to the physical form. -Karen

I'm not sure it can be or needs to be fit into another system. And Dennis has lots of new toys on the Orgone Crystals site

Experience - yes (it was mandatory for baby boomers ) Interesting experiences - yes. Anything that furthered real spiritual development - no. These are powerful drugs that impinge on the energy bodies leaivng you with a disturbance there that you don't want. The in-the-moment experience is an attractive one, of course, like other attractions that let you down or accumulate negative effects, and you realize there was no real benefit. The way psychedelic drugs disturb the energy bodies is by bringing in a strong astral influence that's like a foreign invader. Chemically, it's in the alkaloids, but it's the astrality of these plants that make them different from other plants - most plants that we eat have etheric influence not astral (that's why we don't generally eat flowers). So what these plants are doing is they're raising one aspect of consciousness in us, taking us out of ordinary consciousness, which can feel liberating. But it's really not - the visionary experiences are happening TO us - we're not commanding these forces. No one really wants to be controlled by foreign forces, but that's the situation. The consciousness you gain is not your own - there's an increase in the collective consciousness, not individual consciousness, which is why people doing these drugs like to be in communities. You may gain some insights from the experience, but you don't own the knowledge - the gift isn't yours unless you gain it through your own individual effort. The process of digestion is to strip away foreign forces from food. So it's better to eat drugs than to take them any other way, and better to eat them in their unrefined form than refined, but best to leave them alone. And there are always homeopathic forms of those drugs, which can be good for people who feel drawn to them. Take care, Karen

I call it allopathic medicine or conventional medicine, because not all western medicine is short-sighted - there is a western system of medicine that understands the causative level of disease. But you're right - conventional medicine doesn't know the cause of dementia, because it doesn't understand the true nature of it. Dementia is a condition, which can arise from various primary causes - the causes can be different in each person who exhibits the same symptoms. A system of medicine that is only looking at symptoms, naturally can't understand what the condition is, because it's not a constant thing. It's like trying to find the cause or cure for "headache" - well, for one person the cause is dehydration, so the cure in that case is drinking water. For another person the cause is suppressed anger, and the cure is removing that particular blockage. So the cure for "headache" will always remain elusive, because headache is the symptom not the cause. The best that can be done in the allopathic world is to manage the symptom. In a system of true diagnosis, the causes are identified, and those are the real diseases. Those can be known, for sure, although not in the allopathic world which is based on the Kantian worldview that only the outer appearances of things can be known. We can cure disease, although we don't have control over life and death. So a person can have their diseases removed and still die when it's time. Sometimes dementia arises out of diseases, and sometimes it's just a part of the natural decline for that person, as people here have said. Sometimes a little of both. -Karen

Beautiful, rain, thanks for that. There are always hidden spiritual gifts.

Eric, I'd be glad to explain, but it'll take more than a quick post, and I won't have time in the next couple days, but will get back to you for sure.

Yoda, all that orgone not powerful enough for ya?

The organ weakness is all related. The organs have spiritual forces that keep our metabolism going unconsciously. Those cosmic forces have to be transformed into consciousness, otherwise the organs become weak. And if the organs are weak, we're influenced by foreign etheric and astral forces that don't belong there. So it all comes down to consciousness - when we're young, we have vital forces that get used up in growth and reproduction. But in older years, those growth forces have to be channeled into consciousness, or else we get sick. And it may be perfectly "natural" for a particular person NOT to develop consciousness in this life, as that was not their purpose in being here, but whatever they experience has purpose in terms of whatever they came here to work out. It's also natural to treat the miasms and other blockages that commonly hinder health and spiritual development. My best to your dad, Eric. I'm going through the experience of watching parents decline, too. -Karen

Yup, the life force is actually a creative power that the gods didn't themselves have. Vampirism is stealing this energy without going through the spiritual evolution to develop it for oneself. So any foreign element that drains your life energy is really the same thing in principle - doesn't have to be actual blood. And we're all dealing with those foreign elements that we've internalized - the false ego. -Karen Yael, it's interesting, although I'm not sure I'd want PFC's injected into my bloodstream. I'm not sure that material science is looking at all the possibilities, only the profitable ones

I don't think that adults aspire to a child-like state. Maturity is about transforming the vital forces into consciousness, and in the process the true self takes its rightful place and the false ego is no longer needed. The kind of innocence that I think you're referring to is just a natural quality of the true self, but it's not really child-like, only in the sense of being without artifice. Dementia is a condition that can have many contributing factors. The basic meaning of it is a shutting down from life. Many older people have really never dealt with their emotions in a healthy way. When they have too much undigested emotional experience that they can't process, they may revert to a coping mechanism to protect them from more input that they can't handle. The pressure cooker of their consciousness is under too much pressure, so instead of letting off steam in healthy ways, which they generally don't know how to do, they turn the heat down, which also turns the heat down on their life force. Chronic miasms can be involved - these are inherited predispositions to disease that can be triggered by traumas. You often see that dementia sets in soon after a person goes through a traumatic experience that they couldn't process. I have personal experience with this in my family, and that pattern of emotional shutdown is very evident. What helps is to address the emotional blockages to allow the person to let off some emotional steam. The challenges that people face late in life can sometimes be some kind of preparation for what they need to accomplish in the next life, not only about effects of the past. -Karen

I'd have a different approach to the question itself, which assumes that there's a right/wrong, good/bad judgement to be made. The false ego needs judgments because it's not grounded in real inner wisdom. The capacity for wisdom is only activated by a deep engagement in each particular situation. At one time, with one particular person, it might be appropriate to disclose something, that would not be appropriate to disclose to another person or at another time or under other circumstances. Teachers teach according to the student's readiness and individual learning needs. What promotes learning for one may hinder learning for another. There are no across the board rules - people construct artificial rules so they can go to sleep and disengage from the living moment. There are natural laws, but that's different from artificial rules. -Karen

Sure - you need minerals (especially magnesium from chlorophyll, which the body transmutes into iron), to generate blood. But the volume is the critical factor, otherwise the blood pressure drops. But then the body can produce the constituents of blood on its own, if the nutrients are there. Blood carries consciousness, and has a strong astral force, which is foreign to another person and has to be stripped off. We can eat animal meat which has astral forces, because the process of digestion and metabolism works to strip off those foreign forces (and more easily when the animals are healthy). But injecting those forces directly into the bloodstream is a shock to the ego forces of the body. The problem with blood transfusion is really a matter of these foreign forces. Do you know what the "artificial blood" is? As far as I know, the bloodless surgery is being done with normal saline, and it works fine.. so you have to wonder why the practice of blood transfusion is still being used, with all the risks involved. Well, there are reasons, but not because it's medically necessary, let's put it that way . -Karen

Yup, it's not as simple as homeo medicine, because homeopathy as it's generally understood doesn't have the full philosophical context and grounding in the complete system of medicine that Dr. Hahnemann discovered. The other side of homeo-pathic prescribing is homo-tonic prescribing, which treats the energetic disturbances at the causative level - the primary, idiopathic diseases (disease meaning energetic impingement). At best, homeopathy treats the secondary diseases that arise from them, but can't get to the primary ones. Then we have to look at how the removal of these disease entities actually works to release false attachments and further the unfolding of consciousness. That's really the deeper aspect of Heilkunst, beyond the more practical aspect of treatment. A big subject, but there's plenty of literature. This isn't to say that we can just take remedies and skip the practice and understanding . But that there is a way to activate a dynamic power within us, that actually speeds up the process of spiritual evolution. Removing blockages with remedies is like opening doors so that we can walk through, although it's up to us to choose to walk through. So why not remove the blockages energetically, in a way that would otherwise take nature a very long time to accomplish. There's a lot that could be said about why this technology is available to us now, when it wasn't available in previous eras, but that's another conversation . And for sure it's not so simple - the process isn't reducible to a simplistic formula - natural laws are complex but not complicated . -Karen

Good thoughts there. Normal saline is all that is really needed to replenish blood in surgeries, as it's only the volume that needs to be replenished. This is being done in a few hospitals, but it's rather rare. The energetic effects of blood donation don't necessarily have to last for years, though. Those effects are impingements on the etheric body which can be removed with energetic medicines precisely targeted according to the law of similars. Cinchona officinalis (China) is a remedy for the energetic disturbance of loss of vital fluids. Then there are others for specific aspects of the trauma such as puncture wound, sense of violation of the person's integrity, etc. -Karen

Then maybe what you need for Christmas/Hannukah is a nice purse-sized remedy kit, in an elegant leather case - just the gift that everyone wants!

Great! For someone who doesn't have a Heilkunst person , it wouldn't hurt to take remedies on their own if they weren't sure.

Dr. Hahnemann described the life force as a polarity between that which sustains ("sustentive" power) and that which generates life (generative power). He saw that the bloodletting practices of his time were weakening the sustentive power of the organism, and that's exactly why it seemed to "work" to remove disease symptoms. Symptoms come from the sustentive power of the organism - the natural healing power - as it tries to overcome blocakges or disease disturbances. So by weakening or reducing the ability of the body to produce symptoms, the person feels better temporarily. But this of course isn't the real goal of medicine - it's to cure the underlying disease, not just kill the messenger or the counteraction (symptoms). Hahnemann saw that this kind of suppression of symptoms actually caused more disease (iatrogenic disease). -Karen

Those are good. But there are other shocks involved in a blood draw, in addition. Ledum for the puncture, Hypericum for damage to nerves, Staphysagria for the violation. And ideally in ascending potencies to clear the trauma on all levels. But people can safely take those remedies on their own in a medium potency like 30C.