karen

Here's the older thread on this subject My avatar is now a special glow-in-the-dark orgonite pyramid that a friend made I have a small Tachyon cell, here. Pretty inexpensive if anyone wants to try it.. or I'd be willing to lend mine. I happen to prefer orgonite. The science of orgone is something I feel grounded in, whereas tachyon seems a postulate.. interesting one, at that! I've never been able to find info about how the tachyon pieces are actually made - does anyone know? -Karen

Strange thing.. I've never had a problem using the quote code (in brackets) until the other day.. but now it's not working, and I'm left with the word "quote" in brackets instead of the nice boxes around the quote. Any ideas as to what's going wrong? I checked my text for typos and missing slashes, but it looks like I have everything right. . Worked right that time. Other examples contain quotes spanning multiple paragraphs.. could that be the problem? -Karen

nope, just tested it, and quoting multiple paragraphs works fine.

Hi Mal, Thanks.. yeah, if I have one typo, like I wrote qoute instead of quote, or am missing one backslash, nothing shows up as blockquoted, and people have to read the text with the words in them, very ugly. The way I've been doing it to simplify things with multiple quotes is to just put quote in brackets in front of each quote and at the end of each. I sometimes shorten the first one that has quote name, to just quote. That has worked in the past. I don't know.. maybe something to do with the fact that these current posts are long, and the quotes span several paragraphs and maybe the software doesn't like paragraphs within quotes? I often get weird font sizes but not deliberately! And pasting from Word.. ugh, I get lots of extra blank lines in between paragraphs! That at least isn't so ugly. And sometimes I'll strip the extra formatting off first. Karen

Hi Jaya, Looks good to me. Also, it doesn't necessarily have to be olive oil soap, if that's harder to find or more expensive. It can be made from tallow, as long as it's pure and doesn't have added toxic chemicals and fragrances like most soaps have, and no added glycerin. Unscented, handmade soaps without added glycerin usually are good. You can tell a glycerin soap by the fact that it has a slippery feel when you rinse it off. I have a glycerin soap that I'm trying to use up, just for hand washing, and the slipperiness is annoying. I guess people think the skin is getting moisturized, but it's just slippery . -Karen

Hi, I never heard that word idroxide before, but maybe it's the same thing as sodium hydroxide? (lye). Lye is used in the soap making process and is very toxic but none should be left in the final product. -Karen

Ginger "beer" is yummy.. and reminds me, if anyone has any idea how to get un-pasteurized beer (cask conditioned?), without brewing it oneself, let me know Re. sugar, the fermentation eats it up.. like with kombucha, it would taste sweet if sugar was left.

Not wrong.. I took your post to be a healthy questioning . Stimulated some creative thinking, a good thing!

Well, it's a good balance, I think! Have to stop reading sometimes and digest material in the gut-mind nether regions . Some of the great geniuses were more intuitive types (we call "sulphur" constitutions) - Hahnemann and Reich come to mind!

My view of this is that the whole area of what causes cancer is "controversial" because material science can only look at the "lost wallet under the streetlamp" as their light is brighter there, but the real cause isn't there. "Live" foods like fermented foods contain lot of microorganisms that could exacerbate symptoms in some people at some times, but we have to distinguish between symptom and cause. What "risk factor" means is also very muddy in the conventional medical literature. -Karen

Sure, but I think you're assuming that I'm basing my statment on what material science knows, which dismisses the subtle energy quality of foods. We can use scientific method (direct, objective observation) to look at the non-material aspect, but we don't need to get trapped in the limitation of material science. It kind of doesn't work to say we can know what we don't know , but I would say we can know what is beyond the limits of material science even when their means of measurement can't go there. So in that light, if that's okay with you , I would say that concentrating and drying foods such as green food powders (spirulina, chlorella, etc.) can actually concentrate the orgone energy (which enables hydrogen transfer in the cell) in a way that makes it more available. There are traditional methods of processing foods that have been practiced by traditional cultures all over the world, where people intuitively knew that certain natural processes actually enhance the life force in the food. For example - fermentation, soaking, sprouting, drying. And foods were dried or concentrated for storage, so that they could be available longer. Nature doesn't always give us access to everything we need in its original form - we can use our own creative reason to enhance it, without compromising it as industrial processing does. Nature packages foods as a synergistic whole, and we usually don't want to fractionate that. But also we use foods in different ways - it's one thing to eat a proper amount of fruits and vegetables each day. But what if you need a bit more of the effects of those foods for healing than you can eat? Often when people need healing they can't digest the whole foods very well, so the juices and broths can be important there. I think it's not a matter of deciding whether juice is good or not in general, but when, and for who, and for what purpose - then we can use different forms of foods consciously for specific purposes. Actually, a seed itself is an example of how nature concentrates life energy. We don't always have to wait for the plant to grow - we can eat the seed too, when we want that kind of concentration. Hemp seeds are great when you want a concentrated vegetarian protein. Good for all blood types. Sure there's a lot we don't know, but I think meantime we can look at the energetic qualities of the foods that have been observed for ages. Karen

All that freshness, and then they pasteurize the life out of it, and it's not much more than a sugar drink. Squeezing citrus juice is really so simple, doesn't need a high power juicer, and not more involved than other kinds of food preparation. I have a nice electric (Braun, I think) citrus juicer, cleans up in a jiffy.

Depends on how it's made. Commercial, pasteurized juices aren't gonna be much different in quality whether from concentrate or not. You get a pretty much lifeless product. Some high quality products can be concentrated without losing much life energy - traditional methods of freezing and drying do just that. Best to do your own juicing of fresh, organic produce. -Karen

No, just drooling over that arame/carrot salad. That's my favorite. A few drops of toasted sesame oil...mmmm... I sometimes put some kombu in the pot of whatever soup I'm making, but that's not nearly as fun.

Cucumber pickles are my favorite, but hard to find a real traditionally fermented pickle anymore unless you make it yourself. Fermentation is a form of "digestion" that makes many nutrients and co-factors more available, but mostly, brings out the life energy - when done traditionally. Here's a good source of info online, and a great book with recipes, Wild Fermentation. You can ferment just about any vegetable, and some hard-core Primal Diet people even ferment grass-fed meats. Many fermented products you buy commercially are pasteurized, like yogurt, sauerkraut and kimchi, but you can find some unpasteurized products in Asian markets, and some health food stores in the US carry Biolacto brand fermented veggies, great stuff - carrots, cabbage (sauerkraut) and beets. To take those fermented foods and make them into food-based supplements, generally a good thing, depending on how the processing is done. Cod liver oil is a good example - Fermented, high-vitamin CLO. The fermentation produces higher amounts of vit A and D so you take less. Oh, cheeese is a fermentation process, but the high heat methods used commercially destroy the health benefits. Raw milk cheese is a whole 'nother thing! Then you have to watch out for the tons of poor quality salt they usually add.. or make it yourself with Himalayan salt! If anyone wants to go down the rabbit hole of fermentation.. there's Vinny Pinto's site on "EM" (effective microorganisms). I used to drink this stuff, but it's a bit of a project to make. Vita Biosa is a similar commercial product, made from a variety of herbs and other plant material. -Karen

Re. Karezza I would suggest a really lucid discussion (and on Reich too) is in Rudi Verspoor's The Dynamic Legacy Book Two, which is an amazingly broad treatise on the whole area of "regimen" - with the four cardinal points of regimen being nutrition, hydration, dormition and recreation/coition. Hmm.. well, my sense is that stopping the discharge, if done properly, is really just redirecting the usual CNS expression to get the energy to switch over to the ANS expression.. in the Dynamic Legacy he talks about the difference between CNS/friction vs. ANS/pression. It's not a hindrance of the 4-beat cycle at all, but actually an enhancement that allows a much fuller discharge and relaxation. Otherwise, with CNS activation you get only a partial discharge, and not a full relaxation so you go quickly back into the tension phase, which is why people want sex more often . Reich talked a lot about climax vs orgasm in that respect, and the difference in skin tone as an observable effect. Karen

IF the person happens to have the particular symptom picture of Belladonna, or Colchicum . And dose and potency need to be individualized too. And then, there are other ways of prescribing more directly that may preclude the need for those altogether.. In other words, homeopathy doesn't prescibe on the condition called "gout" but the individual case. And a good practitioner would include the diet issues. Can't get far without that! -Karen

Oooh, okay now! How about, death is just the polar opposite of life, not really devoid of life, just as yin and yang are inseparable. There are polarities within polarities, and relative relationships, so that we can say that the astral is more the death-like impulse relative to the etheric life-like impulse, but these are just relative positions that the intellect would love to line up and have them stay that way ;-). But the more flowing, etheric thinking flows with the relationships. Beautiful. I would call it the Christ rather than Jesus, but not to detract from the essence of what you said! Karen Same way you're forcing me to use my Barnes&Noble gift card that I wasn't just thinking about a few hours ago!

A lovely poem for sure, and lovely creative process with all these vibrant associations! And I don't use the word "lovely" lightly!

Hydration is a biophysical function that goes beyond biochemistry.. here's my article on hydration that discusses that in more detail.. sorry, but the short answer isn't coming to me at the moment . -Karen

Oh, do you see a discrepancy between the two? I'm not sure that Reich referred to Karezza specifically. But Karezza is very much in line with his understanding of the pleasure principle as life energy moving centrifugally, in a polarity of expansion/compression, and the activation of the ANS rather than CNS being key. Reich described the 4-beat life cycle as: 1. tension, 2. charge, 3. discharge, 4. relaxation. For any experience to be alive and health promoting it goes through this entire creative cycle, not getting stuck at any phase.. that's what I think Alice Bunker Stockham meant by the freedom and naturalness of sexuality that awakens us to our highest creative potential. -Karen

Re. the dynamis, on second thought I'm not clear on the connection with the word daimon, and will have to look into that. But the concept of the dynamis as the executor of the life force is in keeping with the sense of daimon as a spirit-like essence... In terms of disease, Hahnemann identified "inimical potences" or daimons that are the essence of disease. They're inimical because they're agents of the "dark" forces (Steiner's "archons" - Lucifer and Ahriman), although not "negative" in any judgmental sense. They're just resistances. Hahnemann introduced yet another term, wesen, which is the expression of the dynamis, the animating essence of a thing, and that's also been referred to as the "genius" of a thing. So each living being has its own particular wesen or essence - and then the extended meaning of "living" would be anything that is dynamic (has a unique wesen), including an idea - anything that has substance, even non-material substance (the substance of the idea). The disease wesen is the essence of it that penetrates the human wesen to produce (or more accurately "engender" = sexual act) a disease in the person. (This gets into what I'm writing about for the private practice forum when it's set up!) Ok, now my thoughts on this aren't as organized as I'd like.. but something to add to the meaning of "body" such as "body of knowledge" or "body politic".. I think this is the supersensible essence of it - in other words, "the body" usually refers to the flesh and blood physical body but also has a supersensible aspect, just as the etheric and astral "bodies" are supersensible. The flesh-and-blood physical body is essentially dead, in that of itself it has no enlivening function except that the spirit-like human wesen animates it.. the human wesen being dynamic, not material. (No wonder material science misses a lot by studying cadavers!) Here is a note from a lecture by Rudi Verspoor that says it better! - And about the coordinating principle, the Logos, that's my understanding too.. that it's the rational order of Truth in the universe, or spiritual reasoning, that incarnates into the various supersensible bodies to take command of the cosmic forces contained there. The Logos has to be grounded in the Dynamis. (that grounded type being Reich's "genital character type.") -Karen

Hi jaya, Here's an excellent presentation that shows that fluoride is unsafe. Fluoride may seem to harden the tooth enamel, temporarily, but it actaully weakens the teeth systemically - not a good thing for anyone! And here's another presentation of the history of how fluoride came to be used in water and dental treatment. Best, Karen

Oooh, that quote from Bill Mistele.. i see that as the descent of the Logos, the real purpose of incarnation - to incarnate spirit into matter, and liberate the "man in the trap," yes? Not sure either . But your mention of daimon.. that's what I was looking for, thanks! That's the root of dynamis, the basis of the Dynamic system. The common sense of the word "dynamic" is an abstraction, but when we talk about dynamic remedies it's with this real connection to the dynamis, the genius, the genie in the bottle . I love it! Karen

Good stuff, NW.. would you say that IIH is the foundational work to look at?