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I agree, I think he was just showing me his "handy work" with this guy. I think he just tries to trick you through mental suggestions. Like what you said. Ultimately the choice is yours, but he is there to help you to destroy yourself and those around you.

MTS, I give you credit. You're a comical Taoist.

Before I started practice, I never really took time to observe my emotional states, but as I started energy work over a year ago, it was obvious these states exist, because I became more sensitive. Everything seemed to amplify, love and anger. When I focus on love, love seemed to amplify. When I was in anger, it also seemed to amplify. I tear very easily now when I'm moved. I'm curious to know what some of you advanced practitioners think about energy form. This energy is electromagnetic and can traverse walls. The energy you project can be a positive "loving" energy or a negative "anger, hatred, fear" energy, right? What do you think happens to your surrounding (ie People) around you when you project positive or negative energy? If you are in a negative mood, then your energy will be projected as negative, right? What happens to the people around you when you project negativity? If you had a lot of energy and you projected negative energy, what happens to them? I've noticed people cough around. Does this mean I'm projecting negative energy? When I sense this, I immediately try to project positive energy and usually they stop. So what does this mean? Sometimes, I ask myself, am I projecting negative energy or not, and sometimes I don't think I am projecting negative energy, because I'm not in a negative state.

I think what he said has some truths to it, but I would be quick to question his idea of what the catalyst is. I seriously doubt the ONE meant for the catalyst to be what he described. Catalyst can mean many different things and can be a positive or negative. Catalyst does not have to be EVIL (murder, rape, killing) etc... He is trying to justify this. I don't believe it one bit. The bible said, be weary of the evil one, as he will try to be friendly but this is only a way to lure you in to the darkside.

Ya Mu, I would ignore this guy's comments from now on. Its meant to be for some people. I've noticed that there are some really quality individuals here, some very developed in their training and knowledge, while there are still little punks on this forum. Personally, I think people who hold negative attitudes should be kicked off the site, or given warnings. There is enough negativity out there. This site is for spiritual growth, not a playground for entertainment. Spiritual growth is about watering the positive, not negatives.

I realize after years of contemplating and studying... The goal of human existence is to escape rebirth. Studying the way of the Tao is not for immortality or special powers. We are already immortal ethereal beings. Our goal is to escape rebirth. To escape rebirth, we must learn to be compassionate human beings. This is our soul purpose for being here. Without compassion, love, and selfless service, we can not escape.

Yes! Its your parents forcing you through school, not your own choice. At some point, you say hey, there has to be something better, a faster route to happiness, bliss. Don't you hate going to school? homework, learning? You just want to have freedom and play? Just like we have earthly parents, surely we have ethereal parents as well. Just scale everything up. When you scale things down, everything below you is the same structure too? right? animals, plants, insects, etc... Too many ignorant fools, think we are at the top. We are the CENTER of the UNIVERSE. There is only one earth. There are no other humans. What BS. Thats what the churches want you to believe. Thats where the control is at right now, with the CATHOLIC churches. They do not want you know. Why else would they bother to modify the true bible. They have created a system to imprison the masses. To keep them so busy they will not have time to think about what they truly are. You have to worry about paying your rent, how much money to spend on food, your car payments, ... You have wonder where the CATHOLIC church gets their wealth. They have more money then some countries. More than I can imagine. Maybe they get it off of donations when everyone goes into service and donates. Yeah right! Most christian churches have a hard enough time trying to pay their ministers. FREE energy has been around forever. The electro-magnetic engine that NEWman introduced nearly 50 years ago has not even been in production. Think about it. Only 50 years later, that he is still preaching about it on the internet. The guy is like 80 years old now. Now because its on the internet every small person is taking stab at it. It works. It produces more energy output, then input. There are few people that were said to put this thing into production in australia 2 years ago, but still have not. You have to wonder about that. Who is the hand behind that? The western world is so caught up in keeping busy, catching the next bus or train, making appts, they have no time to think or rest. It is my belief that we are being conditioned to overwork ourselves for the benefit of a few people. Our creators did not want this. Everything is already provided for us, to relax, to enjoy our lives, to learn, to become better spiritually. But the few in power are imprisoning the masses.

I have no doubt MTS has training in the Tao. However, I do not know or want to know his level. I'm an ABC, american born chinese. I have chinese culture, but also western. So I have both. I know how chinese think and I know how westerners think. Regarding FU's, you have lived without it all these years, why do you need it. Trust your heart and feelings. If you have love, it is all you need. Give good and you will receive good. Its the law of nature. Its called karma. MTS is a salesman, with knowledge to an extent. I would question his true motivation. Where is the money going, you might want to ask? Is it for the temple expansion? for charity? for what purpose? What percentage is for self sustenance? What percentage is for charity? Who manages the money? You never see buddhist monks telling you to pay up for learning do you? These will give you a clear indication to what organizations are legitimate? I perceive you will see more Chinese come into western culture saying they have obtained mastery. This reminds me of the 70's when the indian guru's took advantage of westerners. Its the same stuff, except now it is taoism, not yogi's. The problem is westerners want the drive through service. They don't want to inquire, to study, to practise. This is why most will be sucked in.

Erase all my karma in one week? I know all these practises already. They all have funny names, but I know what they mean.

Compassion, love, and selfless service is the prerequisite for graduating on earth. You will enter the next level if this is all you have to the 4th dimension. Even in the 4th dimension, I believe there is rebirth. It is no different then earth. You still have prove yourself worthy before you are allowed to graduate. If you want to take super route, or the what I like to call the genius route, you become what Taoists call an immortal. When you achieve this level, it allows you to jump all the dimensions. You escape rebirth completely. The Taoist, Hindu, Buddhist, route is the secret key. It is only a secret because people in the past have made it a secret. It was reserved for the elite because the elite found out about it. They wanted this power. Would you give this secret to a layman or your enemy? Its called elite privileges. It really is no secret. Some people awake accidently and have this power. The hindu or yogi's call this kundalini. This is how they first realized how it works, by self awakenings. This self awakened person then taught others. It is not possible for someone to learn by themself. Just think, if you were a little boy lost at sea and accidently stranded on a little island with everything you needed to grow up. If you did not awake through natural kundalini awakening, you would never know how the system works. It needs to be learned or taught by someone. The internal workings require subtle manipulations and channelings. This is why 95% of world is clueless.

First of all, I'm not a buddhist, but I believe in buddha's teachings 100%. I also believe in Taoist teachings 100%. I do not believe in christian or western teachings 100%. This is where people are abusing their power and have manipulated the true bible. This person is able to combine christian belief with buddhist beliefs into one fanscinating story, if it is all false. To me, it sounds very true. More true then any contemporary bible full of holes. Now I don't know if he is entirely 100% right, but I don't think he is 100% wrong. Or maybe he is 100% right. Scotty, how does it actually work then, may I ask?

I think a proper term is "Graduation", not escaping rebirth. Earth (3rd dimension) is like Middle School - What happens in middle school? The kids are nasty, you get bullied around, kids are nasty, they call you names, they blast you, you get picked on, its a tough time for kids to grow. There is much negativity because kids don't know crap. They are ignorant little punks. To me earth realm is the same. Its like we are starting off as kids. When we graduate middle school, we get into jr high. 4th Dimension (Jr. High) - Here we are not called kids anymore, we are teenagers. As teenagers we start to open up to the world. We start to want to identify with things or groups. Find our nitch. Here negativity is not as bad as middle school, but it exists. You learn and you graduate. 5th Dimension (High School) - Here you become a young adult. Negativity is lower than jr. high. Young adults have learned to respect each other on certain levels. Nobody really gets bullied anymore. There is much more freedome to express yourself. More fun. You learn and you graduate to the next level. 6th Dimension (College) - Here you are an adult. Negativity here really does not exist. You are no longer bullied. Everyone is mature, on the most part. Much much freedom. You determine your direction. Its a happy time. At this point upon graduation, you can either go to work, start a family and be happy, or continue on with your doctoral thesis and become a leader or hold high ranking positions. The dimensions keep going up. At any point where you fail to graduate, you have to retake the class. We are in the earthly class right now. You can either be a poor student or a good student and graduate. A poor student will take 2000 years to graduate. Everyone around you, at least most of them are just little light being punks trying to learn to be better and graduate. Some of them are very nice to you and others are very mean. The nice ones will graduate and the others will not. Will you graduate a mean little kid who fails his subjects?

Thanks Ya Mu. I will use your advice. I also wanted to ask, if you project love or compassion into the people around you, isn't this a form of energy leakage? The love is energy or chi, right? or am I wrong?

I would agree with this, but do you want to incarnate another thousand rebirths? The next rebirths may not be so happy rounds. The times may be different. You may be reborn in a time when warlords rule, times when death is everywhere. I'm no buddhist, but this is why buddha said you must try to escape, because the next opportunity will be a long way off. In between is suffering in this earthly dimension. Everything that applies in the microscale also applies on the macroscale. All of us are nothing but little light beings being educated here on earth. Its like we are children being sent to school to learn to be good. Isn't this what you do to your kids? If they fail a grade, they are sent back to learn it over. Its called flunking if I'm correct. You graduate to the next level and you continue on. You are constantly being educated and in return you will receive your due. You fail to graduate high school or college and you may end up working at a fast food place for a long long time. Some people finally realize they want something out of their life so they go back to school and finish and graduate college and get that big paying job. They become happy, very happy. They are free to do what they want now, much freedom. Through my years of study, I've put the pieces together and it all makes sense now. My puzzle is coming together.

I wanted to share my story about laws of attraction. I first started my inquiry into meta-physical studies after reading yogananda's book. I never did finish it, but it started a series of other positive things. I used to spend a lot of time in Sauna rooms and hot tubs relieving stress. One day I was in the Sauna and a gentleman walked in. He immediately ask me how I was doing. I said I was ok. His next words were I'm a yoga teacher. I didn't ask him about whether he was a yoga teacher. Maybe he misheard me. I said, thats interesting, I'm reading a book by yogananda. I'm second guessing myself, I didn't ask about his background. We proceed to talk about the book for about an hour. I said I didn't believe in the books events. He said he was very closed to it. I thought wow. I said the only way to be like jesus is to give up everything, even your life. He said he was very near to it. Later, after we were about to depart, he says his name is Steve... and by the way he said, I'm a retired US ARMY GENERAL. I was like wow, how often does someone get to shake a generals hand, let alone talk to one for an hour in person. I wanted to laugh afterwards because I really talked to him like I actually knew more than him. The guy looked like he was about 50, but I think he was much older and very fit. He had more muscles then me. I could tell during his younger days, he was a strong man. When I think back now, I do believe in the law of attraction. I think I was meant to meet him. Well, since then, I've met my other teacher too, coincidentally they say.

Ignorance simply means lack of information or knowledge. It also means a failure to inquiry, to study. Here's more info to help you get started. Take a look here: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?categ...p;sc=1&ss=0

Don't believe people who tell you that you can't learn from books. Thats BS. Read everything, read them all. You'll find what you are looking for. Its all out there! True masters will not ask for money. I guarantee you. Enlightened people know why they are here and trust me, money is not one of them. Once they are in union with the source, why do they need to bother with earthy desires. If you are eager to learn the way, you'll attract positive people who want to help you awake. Its meant to be.

The immoral asshole or evil person in my mind can not fully develop. Its not possible, because he will create disharmony within himself and possibly death to himself. This has happened to many before or going crazy. The goal is pure compassion. Through choosing evil ways, he creates further karma. Karma must always balance itself out. If you kill someone, you will be killed in your next life. This is how karma works. Our goal here is to learn compassion, so that we can grow. Thus, the reincarnation. Everyone returns to the source at some point. It may take a long long time, as buddha said, but the goal is too escape rebirth. The route you choose allows you to escape rebirth, but not through evil ways of developing powers and abusing it. I know that I am affecting others, but I do not know how all the energy stuff works to what level yet, but I believe I am understanding the bigger picture now. I know now, like scotty said, I must be positive to negative. I have been doing this, but I wanted to affirm this. Thanks scotty.

If you really think about it, its not weird at all. It all makes sense. I've started to ask myself why I am here about 6 years ago. I could not find an answer. It just didn't feel right. I kept telling myself, something is not right. I feel like I should not be here. I keep telling myself I feel like this whole life is a "game" I'm playing. Literally, these are the words going through my head. The more I inquired and studied, the more people I started to meet that lead me to learn the way. This opened up more and more doors for me. I met my teacher who is awakened. He wears a aura "crown" over his head 24 hrs a day and has his 3rd eye open. I offered to help service him and he does not accept anything from me. He has told me that there are a lot of people here who have chosen to be reborn here to help others. He said that if you are driven to the path, which I am, then it is meant to be. I do not know if I am already awakened before and just here to help. I'm still trying to awake, but it all makes so much sense now. Even the so called "evil" in this world has been answered to me. Even the dali lama said that "even the evil" people have their part in this world. It all makes sense now. We are all here to learn, to be better, to be more positive. I've seen people who awake, and the first thing they do is laugh non-stop. To me this means its all a joke. We are eternal beings here to learn. We have chosen our roles to learn. Now I just need to wake up. I'm having good progress though. Good luck to everyone! Brothers and sisters!

I was like you. I've studied them all. I take bits and pieces form every religion and I make my own. Isn't this how religion is created. Now my way is the way to go. My clan is the clan to be in. My lineage is the way its supposed to be. Blah blah blah. A bunch of crap. Personally, I would differentiate between learning the TAO, the way of nature, vs. TAOISM which could mean no different then any other religion, requiring you to do certain things. This is no different than any other cults. If you have study them all, you will know they all have an underlying backbone. Everything else around it is just another tool. You are a buddha. You just don't know yet.

Ignorance will keep you in the box. Ignorance will keep you living on the idea that the earth is flat. Do you need to see from space that the earth is not flat? Will this be enough proof for you? Learn to think beyond your norm.

The fact is, we are not alone. Earth is only an island out in the universe. There are millions of other earths in their development stages. Earth is growing. It has been growing. All people are really the same. We are different because the Earth grew and the continents separated. It was once only ONE land mass or Earth (shrunk to 40% its current size). This difference in humans is caused by isolation and genetic differentiation based on the environment we each live in, whether hot, or cold. Hot climates have darker skinned people. Cold climates, white skinned people. But, nevertheless, each continent has mixes of climates, so different types of colors. We humans are evolving just like the planet. Regarding UFO's, and aliens. They do exist. For anyone to say they do not exist really need to wake up. The only reason we have not been destroyed or assimilated is because, just like there are bad aliens, there are good aliens. The good exist, and they protect us. This creates balance or prevents inter-galactic war. I believe the good are there to protect us and let us grow spiritually. In the past, we were not in the level of spiritual maturity, but in this century, thus, the beginning of 2013, we start a new level of spiritual growth where more people will wake up. When we wake up, we will be able to use our 3rd eye. This will allow us to see them, the aliens. My teacher see's them. He wears a halo "crown" around his head 24 hrs a day and has his 3rd eye open. There are UFO's that are material or cylindrical and creatures. In fact, you have creatures around you all the time, you just can't see them. The air you breathe is no different from the ocean. Just like the ocean has a sea of life, the air has creatures too. Some are too small to see with the naked eye and others are transparent to the human eye. Thus, the need to open the 3rd eye. Regarding UFO's, they most likely use a electro-magnetic propulsion system or more advance system. This is a system that creates more energy output then input. This is in fact already in production. You can youtube free energy, Newman motors, or magnetic motors, and you will see that we are in fact on a verge of changing the way we view energy. More and more people will use magnetic motors that utilize electro-magnetic energy. You do not need to plug into the electric Grid anymore. Combine this with hydrogen fuel cell, and solar panels, and you have free energy. How does this apply to spirituality? Well, the whole idea of energy work is "ELECTRO-MAGNETIC". It is the electro-magnetic forces that will help you become spiritual. This is the mastery that aliens already have. The most advanced adepts have this power, just like aliens. We live in a time when we will see more UFO's. The reason being is our technology is growing exponentially thus the inability to mask the TRUTH. You can not lie when there will be millions of video cameros in production that can see infra-red or other spectrums. Just think about it. 10 years ago, you had a big cell phone the size of a shoe, now you have a small cell phone with a "Camera"! Soon the camera's in cell phones will also improve and there is no more hiding the truth. The cameras that are available on the Space Shuttle, will be on normal cameras soon. There are a couple reasons for hiding the truth. Power for a few people. There are a few people in this world that are in power. They control everything, even the CIA. The president does not control them. It is the greed of these people that keeps most people from waking up. It has nothing to do with "the people are not ready for it", its all about "GREED, POWER, CONTROL". It flows down from generation-to-generation, father-to-son. Sorry its so long, I've been itching to write this for a longtime. Good luck in your spiritual growth.

I've been wondering what causes hairloss. I have a feeling fungus and chlorine in the water causes hairloss. While doing some research, I stumbled on this video on Cancer. This Dr. may have re-discovered something that the ancients knew all along. Its funny tho, he is trained as a western doctor, yet his findings are of a naturopath. The western doctors basically think he is a crock. The Taoist Doctor's believed that we do not need a medicine for every disease as there are too many to keep track of. The key was to keep the body healthy and it will fight the invaders. I think what has happened with modern world is we have in essence created the perfect world for cancer (FUNGUS) to grow. We eat unnatural foods, use unnatural products(hair, skin), and drink tainted water. This all creates a place for fungus to grow. video here: http://aromatherapy4u.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/974/ Until now, no western doctor can figure out what cancer is. I can't believe the best they are able to do is say treatment with is surgery, chemo, and drugs. His fix was Baking Soda! The root cause Fungus! I think the west needs to wake up, and realize everything we need is natural. Its in the world. It grows naturally. We don't need to synthesize it. Every effective drug that we have seen in history have all been natural drugs that nature produces. They have the least side effects. Just watch the pharmaceutal companies try to destroy this.

I know its possible to obtain it via the celibate route, but the question still remains for me, is it possible to obtain it with a partner (wife)? Can anyone confirm this is possible with a partner? In the celibate route, you're obviously not losing semen, but with a wife, you're bound to lose seed at some point. Even if you practice 1 hundred sessions, you're going to ejaculate at least once. Does anyone know if Sun Ssu Mo achieved immortality?

How does reincarnation actually work after death? Once the body dies and the spirit is released, if it doesn't go back to the sources (god), it said it becomes a ghost that is lost creating its own heaven and hell. From here, where does the actual reincarnation actually take place? Does the ghost wander for a while? How long before it re-enters another human fetus?