Sorry to hear about her passing. She will be missed here.

In Google, it is possible to do site-specific searches like this: site:www.thedaobums.com (search term)

 

However, Google's crawlers do not reach the PPD section, where a lot of interesting content can be found. This site's search engine did (or still does but just for the past two months). I'm wondering if the mods could experiment with re-setting the search scope further back in time to see if it affects connectivity and speed? If it is negatively impacted, by all means go back to two months. Just a thought. (You may have already tried this, apologies if so)

 

I'd also like to thank the mods/concierges and IT people for all you do!

1 hour ago, forestofclarity said:

 

Google worked for me: 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/9681-nonduality/

 

I don't believe that the PPD content is accessible via Google.

 

3 hours ago, forestofclarity said:

So I would ask: longer search or faster board? 

 

Why the forced choice? Why not work on restoring both, as it was prior to the slow down?

Sorry but I have to disagree about the search engine never working well. For example, last June I used it to analyze my practice log. As you can see at the following link, it would (at that time and until recently) retrieve hundreds or even thousands of results for given search terms. There has definitely been a change since the recent connectivity issues to greatly impair this function, leaving it virtually worthless. To me this has been an important feature of the site and allows visitors to readily locate information on the topic of their choice. I hope tech support doesn't blow this off and continues to investigate the issue. Thank you.

 

 

Hi Tech Support,

 

Just thought I'd point out that the search engine for the site doesn't appear to be working correctly. Entering  relatively common search terms produces no results or far fewer than should be expected.

 

Examples:

Bagua, 5 results

Mo Pai: 6 results

Zen: 27 results

 

Hopefully someone can look into this. Thank you.

 

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April 14 - 17, 2025

 

Beginners and experienced students alike are invited to this Tibetan Yoga retreat!

 

The distinctive Tibetan practice of yoga known as Trul Khor or ‘magical movement’ incorporates breath retention, awareness and dynamic physical movements. In this four day retreat we will focus on the Foundational (Ngondro) and Special (Chedrag) magical movements from the Zhang Zhung Nyen Gyu (Oral Transmission of Zhang Zhung).

 

Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche calls Trul Khor “a wonderful support for all spiritual practitioners, not just for those with an interest in physical yogas.” By harmonizing the winds (lung, prana, or chi) and guiding their flow through physical and energetic dimensions, Trul khor can clear long-held blocks in the practitioner’s body, energy, and mind, supporting the spontaneous arising of awareness during formal meditation and in everyday life.

Trul khor has different sets of movements composed by different masters. This retreat, will focus on practices from Pongyal Tsenpo and Orgom Kundul, two great yogis who are among the masters of the Zhang Zhung Nyen Gyu.

 

Students that complete this retreat are eligible to participate in Trul Khor, 4-part training.

 

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Yantra yoga was originally brought to Tibet by Padmasambhava in the 8th century and entrusted to the scholar, master, and translator Vairochana who recorded the practice in a text known as the “Trulkor Nyida Khajor”, or the Union of Sun and Moon. It was first introduced to the West in the 1970s by one of the foremost Dzogchen masters of our time, Chögyal Namkhai Norbu, and later made openly available, understanding the immense benefit it holds for everyone.

To the OP,

 

If you simply want to feel qi, Pangu Shengong, Fragrant Qigong, or the La Qi method in Zhineng Qigong would probably allow you to experience that pretty rapidly (and less expensively) than the methods you've mentioned. On the other hand. if you would like to do something with the energy you would be feeling, one of those more extensive courses could be more beneficial.

On 4/5/2024 at 3:40 PM, Elysium said:

What does this even mean?

 

 

 

Kitty comeback? I hope so.

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rare-endangered-lynx-spotted-in-vermont-for-the-first-time-since-2018-180984970/

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rare-ocelot-caught-on-camera-in-arizona-the-first-sighting-in-its-area-for-50-years-180984921/

"Serpent at the gates of wisdom. Where do you belong?

Wisdom cannot be transmitted. It keeps you hanging on

Do you really serve the Devil If it's all God's plan?

Good and evil need each other. Honey I'm your man"

https://www.yogicstudies.com/ys-128

 

This one is highly regarded by several people that I respect (I haven't read it yet though):

 

Daoist Meditation: The Purification of the Heart Method of Meditation and Discourse on Sitting and Forgetting

 

https://www.amazon.com/Daoist-Meditation-Purification-Discourse-Forgetting/dp/1848192118/

Yang Taiji Baduanjin: The Eight Brocades (September and November 2024)

 

https://www.masichinternalarts.com/zoom-8-section-brocade-baduanjin

 

(Note from Dainin: this is something completely different from the standard 8 Section Brocade. The Yang Family Qigong that I practice with my Tai Chi teacher (can also be seen in a book by Stuart Alve Olson) is just one part of this longer form. You may be able to see some excerpts from it on Youtube. I'll definitely be signing up for this one!)

48 minutes ago, Unota said:

What?

 

See May 3, 2016 post:

 

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4 hours ago, snowymountains said:

 Nice! Do you know by any chance the origin of the exercises, are they exercises practiced ie by Bulgarian orthodox ascetics or the origin is entirely different and they incorporated it into their personal practice?

 

That is a good question and I'm not sure of the answer. Apparently while Peter Deunov's father was a Bulgarian Orthodox priest, he (Peter) attended two Christian (Protestant) theological schools in the United States in the 1890s, and went to medical school at BU for a year before returning to Bulgaria. He was also known as Beinsa Douno and published some books under that name. I just looked in Amazon and there is biography on him and a number of his books have been translated into English. Might be worth checking out.

 

"In 1932, he developed Paneurhythmy exercises: a sequence of exercises performed to music, to achieve inner balance and harmonization. This practice promotes the processes of self-perfecting, expanding of the consciousness and attaining of virtues. The circle dance, is a conscious interchange between human beings and the forces of living nature. Each movement is the expression of a thought. The effect should be that the observer picks up from the movements, the thought or the idea they express. The rhythm in the movement of the physical body leads us to one in our spiritual life." [Wikipedia article]

 

I think that was coincidentally around this same time that Gurdjieff was developing his movements, which were also performed to music. At least one of his main disciples was a composer. I don't know if Deunov and Gurdjieff knew of each other or not.

 

I think there were various systems of calisthenics and other exercises (aka "Physical Culture) that were popular in Europe around the time (and earlier), such as  Swedish gymnastics, Indian club swinging, Russian kettlebells, and the Turnverein movement in Germany and among German immigrants in the US. It's possible that this type of material may have influenced them but it's hard to say.

 

I noticed that Aivanhov used yogic terminology in the title of some of his books. Apparently he went to India in 1959 and met Neem Karoli Baba, who later became the guru to Ram Dass (Richard Alpert).

 

I find this kind of stuff to be really interesting!

I just remembered another potential candidate for this, the movement and breath practices of Peter Deunov and his student Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov. These guys were from Bulgaria and considered themselves to be esoteric Christians. They came out of the Orthodox Church but seemed to incorporate some Indian concepts as well.

 

 

I just remembered that two qigong sets that I've studied in the past were transmitted and/or created by Chinese masters who were from Christian and Muslim backgrounds respectively. The Wuji Hundun Qigong popularized by Daisy Lee and Francesco Garripolli was the family qigong of Master Duan Zhi Liang, who a Christian. In a documentary about him, he shows a stele said to talk about his family history. The 24 Posture Therapeutic Qigong developed by Master Helen Wu was based on the 20 posture form developed by her grandfather Master Wang Ziping, who was a Muslim. To my eyes these forms seem to be based on Chinese medical theory and I don't find anything particularly Abrahamic in nature about them.

 

Another thing that came to mind was the Iranian practice of Zhurkane (also transliterated as Zoor Khane and various other ways) or Varzesh i Bastani. This is a sort of ritual practiced by men in a special building (the Zhurkane or House of Power) in an octagonal pit. While sacred music is played and poetry is chanted, they go they through a lengthy series of exercises including calisthenics (including those typically called "Hindu" squats and push-ups in the West), weight lifting with large wooden shields, swinging very large clubs called Meels, and high speed jumping and spinning. I first read about this years ago in a little book called Zen Combat. It may date back to pre-Islamic Persian empire times but has been continued to be practiced post-Islamic conquest. Again, mind , body and spirit are being engaged, but I'm not sure if they have concepts analogous to the meridian system and qi found in the Chinese (and Tibetan and Ayurvedic) system. There is a guy in Australia selling equipment and books about this system under the name of "Persian Yoga."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlevani_and_zoorkhaneh_rituals

https://medium.com/@dforouznv/house-of-strength-the-history-and-traditions-of-the-zurkhaneh-4c41c58d569a

 

I was interested in this too, a while back, but didn't wind up following up with it mostly because the location was a bit far from me. I don't think they just allow you to show up (at least for the latihan part), and ask you to do some background reading for awhile to make sure you're really interested in it before you can experience it. I think it is based on a sort of chain of transmission going back to the founder, Bapak. At least as of a few years ago there was a YouTube channel where some of the old timers shared their experiences with the organization.

 

The musician Roger McGuinn (of The Byrds) was associated with the practice in the 60s before finding Jesus. The author J.G. Bennett was also involved and wrote a book about it. Some say President Barack Obama's mom may have been associated with them, which freaked out some fundamentalist evangelicals.

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