i agree with vortex, to a certain extent...i'm sure that everyone has come across that master who believes that their particular style is the best at "fighting, self defense for little guys/gals, or protecting yourself without really hurting the other person, etc.. etc... " and then they try to make you believe that also.... for me, part of watching MMA is watching how masters of a particular skill or art fall apart when they have to live up to their claims.