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Very interesting apepch7. Thats a good way of describing the destinction between things, but Im still looking for something which has no limits. Posibilities are limited, like potential in the same way. There are things that are impossible. Possibilities are likned to "things" and depend on them to exist. They are also limited in their abilities. ie , its possible for a "thing" to become, change, do etc. Without the "thing2 there is no possibility and to use our eariler example, its not possible for a chicken egg to hatch in to a tree etc. Possibilities are dependent and limited like potential. Tzu Jan Li, please explain what is "void " and how it is unlimmited. Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far, especially marblehead.
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Sorrry for the sloppy writing and mis types , just woke up! lol
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What you have just imagined all depends on your previous information. Although its a ficticious story and unique and invented by your mind, it doesmeand that thoughts or the mind are without limits. You could not have had that imaginary thought unless you had previous informaton. You had to have previously known what the number three is , what legs are, what warmth is, what beauty is and what women are. You had to have previously known what numbers are and the value of three, to understand what part of the body legs are and experienced warmth etc. This is how the mind is limited, knowledge is limited and thoughts. remenber they may not have a size , width , weight or be pangible, but they do have a begining and are dependent on previous information being percieved by the senses. This is how theyre limited. Mind is limited in many ways too. There is a limit to how much it can store and remember, thats why we forget things, it depends on a physical body etc. Anything that can grow or reduce in size or ability is limited , because of its very ability to increase and decrease. But of all "things" that Ive thought about , mind or thoughts etc are the things that more powerful that most other things but still have limitations.
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Thoughts are limited because you can only imagine or think of something you have already had previous knowledge of ie you know what a beach is , so you can imagine it. If you did not know what a beach was, you could never imagine it. Its like asking a blind person to imagine a colour that he has never seen. Its like art. Facing a blank canvass and then producing a unique picture out of thousands that the mind can imagine or replicate. Our minds are born blank, like the canvass, but then they collect information, thoughts, ideas and sensations such as smells, tastes, feelings, sounds that we can place on the blank canvass. "limit" is one of the following qualities. height, weight, width, beginning, end, being measurable or dependent on something. "thing" is something that exists but I meant it in the context as something tangible that we can percieve with our senses in the post earlier.
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Anything which is unlimited is very difficult to describe or even comprehend as you have said. I love the depth of what we are discussing. I have to re-read and digest then re-read again. I hope we come to a firm conclusion.
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thank you all very much, especially OneSeeker for your explanation. Potential is not just limited by how it is acted upon, but potential is specific to a particular limited thing. Like a chicken egg has the potential to become a chicken, but it does not have the potential to become a human being once hatched. We cant seperate potential from the actual thing that possesses it. It is the ability of something to do something or change its self or something else in the future. Words can be very deceptive, this is the limitation of language.
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Its true, to define anything is to limit it, but to understand what limited is I need to define what it means. Words mean different things to different people, so I defined it from my understanding to ask an open question. Its possible that insight can help, but insight should be explainable. Even one word or line of deep meaning can be explained in great length and detail. Im just trying to see if anything with such qualities actually exists. Its a rational question seeking a rational answer that can be tested, scrutanised and proven. ie: this is it, it exists and these are its qualities. So its more rational and factual than philosophical. Unless the philosophy points to "it".
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Here I go indulging my addiction to intellectualism, apologies in advance: In Greek philosophy, the first "moment" of manifestation is precisely the meeting of Unlimited and Limit. Plato's unwritten doctrine expressed it as the One (beyond limit or unlimitedness) producing the Indefinite Dyad (i.e., Unlimited and Limit). Plotinus later described the Dyad as Being and Essence, the point being that for something to Be, it must not only Be, it must be Something. The similarity to the Tao giving rise to Yin and Yang seems self-evident to me, but I could be overreaching. On another level, that which has no limit or form is the chaos of pure matter, the lowest or farthest extension of the creative impulse. It has no power to produce or create but can only receive Form from the greater powers. I need to apologise too! Im dont understand some things so please be patient. What does first "moment" mean? What is meant by "manifestation"? What was unlimited that "met" with limited and how? I can understand the One as being the unlimited "thing" Also if something has no power to produce or create, wouldnt it be seen as limited due to these limitations and inabilities? The indifinite dyad "unlimited and limited" what exactly is unlimited and what is reffered to by limited? Finally , what are the "Greater powers" that give Form and how are they greater? Thanks and apologies in advance. Im not being arguementative and wouldnt like to come across as such.
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potential does have limits, and a beginning and end. Also facing a blank canvass and producing a picture or any other type of art such as literature or music is dependent on imagination, which is dependent on a human mind and its previous experiences or information. Which are all limited. I really want to get to the bottom of this to find something truly limitless as I have been thinking about this for a long time. Something that: Has no height, weight, width, shape, beginning, end, is not measurable and doesnt depend on anything for its own existance. Sorry if I ask too many questions, but in a topic that uses words that can be so loaded and misunderstood I may need to. This forum has many great minds and although we often disagree, we try to be truthful and compassionate.
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How detremental is external locking method?
shaolin replied to shaolin's topic in General Discussion
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How detremental is external locking method?
shaolin replied to shaolin's topic in General Discussion
Thanks, it seems that its better to avoid it. Its so tempting because its a release without outward ejaculation, but perhaps not worth it in the long run. I just read a section in Sivananda buried yoga where the author says that any type of sexual excitement causes a loss of energy. He says that love of good food, looking good, and desire to be touched or any sensual behaviour all cause a loss of vital energy. I think this might be slightly extreme, but I do agree to a lesser extent. When my sexual deisre is not naturally aroused and I "think" of sexual ideas to get physicially aroused my head hurts, I feel tired and drained, like my energy is dissipating. Even more so than when I go all the way and ejaculate! Anyone else experience this? Interesting link Trunk. -
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He eats meat as he chose to be a shaolin disciple rather than a shaoiln monk, he has a normal healthy diet, natural and mostly organic. Hes good at mixing traditional with modern training methods. His glow and power is from serious qi qong training. There is yi jin jing for health and then there is yi jin jing for martial arts. His book explains this and shows authentic Shaolin ba duan jing qi qong form.
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Yes he's in excellent shape. He does not do any weight training and his callesthenics are moderate. I know many mma fighters and wrestlers and their callesthenics workouts are far more intense than his. His build is from yi jin jing training and xi sui jing training. A mix of internal and external. I dont like to exaggerate a persons abilities and im not in to the supernatural stuff, but he is rock solid. I have trained in various martial arts before training with him, and I was strong and tough, but even when I kick his thigh with my shin, which usually drops most people, it is MY shin that is in pain. This is from real yi jin jing. He doesnt take any supplements, not even protein. He says, "the only secret is hard work" and this is the absolute truth. If you look at the picture you posted , you can see its a different type of muscular physique. Not pumped up buff muscle made from lifting weights. It is a solid , dense , rock like muscle. Normal muscle from body building looks good and can be hard and dense , but it is not solid and able to function like steel body. This is one of the benefits of shaoiln yi jin jing, to make the body stronger than steel. It will not be stronger than steel, but it will be far more solid than a body built by weights or callesthenics. Just look at the muscle on his shins and calves ! lol
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This is my teacher shifu shi yan lei, I learnt steel jacket qi qong from him which is actually the real yi jin jing and I also learnt xi sui jing. His steel body is SERIOUS but it takes a lot of dedicated training. You need to do qi qong twice a day plus external training at least once a day. I developed a good steel body , but sexual desire and ejaculation causes serious set backs. Really , a person needs to have control over their sexual desire or they cant progress in this type of training. Ive been training on and off for almost 4 years, but my self discipline over sexual desire is the problem. Even the actual training requires serious effort. Its very painful to begin with and you can also cause serious damage to yourself. It needs to be continious like blowing air in to a baloon. As soon as you stop filling the baloon with air, and fail to close its opening, you will loose all the air you put in. If you stop training for even 10 days, you need to re start, which I have done too many bloody times! Out of respect to my agreement with him, I cant explain or teach how to train in steel jacket and as I have not been disciplined enough to reach my capabilities, I dont really have the right to either. But I'll get there. I would reccomend anyone who wants to learn real authentic shaolin qi qong or any of the 72 styles to check out his website www.shifuyanlei.co.uk. We can train our bodies to train our minds, but sometimes we need to train our minds to train our bodies, this is the case with shaoiln steel jacket. Out of interest, Dr Yang jwing mings book "QiQong, the secret of youth" is a very good source for somone interested in yi jin jing or xi sui jing, but he lacks practicle experience as he honestly admits.
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I have been masturbating for many years and now can not achieve an erection without manual stimulation through self masturbation. I cant remember the last time I had a spontaneous erection and my sexual energy is quite low. Even watching porn or being with a woman doesnt cause an erection until I self stimulate. Does anyone think the regular masturbation can harm our natural sexual arousal? Would a complete break from sexual stimulation help and how long should one abstain? I know there have been many posts on abstaining from sex and masturbation , but this one is mainly concerning decreased penile sensitivity and how to increase sexual energy. Sorry if Ive covered old issues. Peace!
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Thanks for such great responses guys. I dont ejaculate constantly, perhaps once every week, or if I abstain from ejaculation, I'd ejaculate after about 10 days ,three times. After the first ejaculation I'd think, "Ive lost it now, may as well go all out". I am capable of controling my ejaculation during sex and use the big draw to last as long as I want, but I find it unnatural to fulfil my deisre with just one woman, I desire every hot woman I see , and if I could , I'd fulfil my sexual desire with them. I think this is why I watch so much porn, which has desensitised my mind and my sexual organ through long hours of non ejaculatore masturbation. Then the energy builds and builds and I throw it out. Lighter masturbation technique would definatly help on the physical side, but without the mental discipline and energy work I will stay in the same cycle of stimulation, building energy, not using it right and throwing it out to stay sane. Its also a mental issue, women and sexual desire are always on my mind and my desire and arousal has become a mental experience more than a physical one. Im not upset or down at all, well, perhaps in some areas lol! I just want to have the strength of will to have control of myself instead of my desire controlling me and resulting in unwanted side effects. This is the most important issue to me at the moment.
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Thank you both very much. I'll try to block out the sexual thoughts and focus more on full lotus meditation. Thanks for the stretching info.
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Its been 12 days without ejaculation now and my sexual energy is building up in my head, back of my neck, my arms which have a tingly feeling and my chest which feels like I have shallow breath but I feel agitated, frustrated and powerful, like somone has really pissed me off and Im ready to start throwing punches. I have not noticed the energy in my sexual organs yet though and usually when I get to this stage I ejaculate to feel more normal and less aggressive. Again not due to sexual desire in my genitals but to vent the energy in my body. Should I continue and let my body do what it wants with the energy , or should I try to direct it to my sexual organ? At the moment I have a feeling in my upper body , that is similar to one that a person feels when somone scratches their nails on a black board, That shiver on the back, irritation and tingles. If I ejaculate, I will stay in the same non progressive cycle of throwing out energy and building it again. Its just that I get very aggressive, irritated and frustrated. Any ideas from those who have experienced this and gone beyond it would be great. Peace.
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Thanks, Excellent link!
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Thanks Drew, I'll check the link you gave and start with the cd. I hope to minimise sexual thoughts too. Very true Vortex. We can take for granted that we have enough energy to fully fire on all cylinders all the time. To store energy in one point and send it to other parts when they need it and only for that reason makes more sense. To truly understand our own bodies and minds is very difficult. We can mess things up simply by not understanding how we gain, store and distribute energy in our bodies. The most simple of things can be the most complicated. Peace.
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Thanks Drew. What is the best method for exercising the brain? The more I use it , the more loaded and heavy it feels!
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Has anyone noticed an increase in penile sensitivity and more frequent spontaneous erections after a peroid of celibacy? How long should one abstain if they are in a very weakened state?
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Hi to everyone on the forum! Im a new member and would love to find out more about sexual energy work and semen retention, Im currently training in shaolin muscle and tendon training and bone marrow and brain cleansing qi qong, and I need to retain as much as possible but find it very difficult! looking forward to speaking to you, Shaolin.