r.w.smith

Spot on Dragonfire.

Ymwong,Are you trying to tell me that there are no daoist rituals for this kind of thing ? Come on now please dont say such things, Your not dealing with fools.

Some of this stuff is really good. Of course there are fakes out there, but please dont think all have nothing to offer. These kinds of invulnerability skills are easily obtained in most asian countries if you know what your looking for. From my experience it only takes a few minutes to transfer this energy to another. usually the master will recite a mantra over some water & have you drink,then woolaahhh time to test your newly accuired skills. The downside is most of the time the power will only stay in your body for a few months,or in some cases weeks. it all depends who you see & the masters level. no need to spend years meditating. Please dont confuse these practices with things like ironshirt,qigong, etc. they are very different. Qigong uses your own energy & takes much more effort to build. Where as most of these systems usually involve putting somekind of undesired entity inside or close by for instant results. Believe it or not, You have been warned.

Its only Natural for somebody to Favour & lean more towads their own culture/colour. And obama will be no different.

Thankyou very much for the reply Kathy,Much appreciated. So Master wang was even teaching these Mantra at the seminar. Priceless.

Can somebody please tell Me if Master Wangs Systemm uses any kind of Mantra/Incantation. Thanks

Does master Wangs system contain any Mantra or Talisman at any stage ? Thanks.

Omg is that guy pushing hands with wang. What an experience ! Thanks for posting the pics, much appreciated.

In simple terms..........When the Student is ready The Master will Appear. Until then, Good Luck !

Chanting Mantras Etc are at the core of most Ancient Religions including Buddhism,Hindu,Islam and of course Taoism. To think that One cannot attain the same & more Abilities as John Chang is very Wrong. But then again doesnt the Mo-Pai use Fu Talismans too ? Which is in essence a Magical Diagram We call Sigils in Western Magic You see even John Chang -With all His mighty Chi must still use these Talismans to achieve His various Goals. If You want Supernatural Powers (which i think 99% of the people here seek) Then mantras & spells are the fastest route by any means. Much quicker then boring stances & The soft fairy like qigong mostly available nowdays looool.

Hi Everybody, I just visited a website & Found some Guy selling john changs personal Information. I dont know If the Information is Accurate or Not . It seems every few Years this Mopai thing starts off all over again. Now a new group of Hopefuls are willing to lash out Cash & make the trip to Indonesia. Will This Ever End ?

I think The only Way He will be left in peace, is by going into seclusion forever ?

Im interested to hear Any Feedback from this Latest Seminar 15th - 25th of October.

I agree,The same Terminology like the Ninja Kuji Kuri (9 Cuts) I think its called ?

Well lets take a look at the Chinese. The most Racist anti western people on Earth. They call us all kinds of names,Deem us Unworthy to Attain their Secrets etc. But i dont see anybody trying to Ban the Chinese.

I just Watched the Gary Clyman Video Again. I think He made the entire thing up Himself.

Isnt this Gary Clymans Neikung on Youtube ? http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KfyAHoQAu1o I could not stop Laughing, Listen for the Big Roar at 1:28 rofl

This is usually done in the hope of gaining Supernatural Powers or Accquiring Spirit Helpers, if You believe in such Things. Silat Kebathinan is but one example. Maybe Vajrasatva can Comment if Hes viewing This Thread. But In South East Asia its very Common for People to Fast & Meditate in The Cemeteries or Graves of Famous Kings,Warriors,Saints,Make Offerings Etc for Religious purposes.

Well didnt David lose His Power soon after the Transfer ? I remember clearly He was trying to "Zap" Students to No effect soon after. If so this is not merging Yin & Yang but just a Temporary Transfer of Yin Chi much like The air rifle Demonstration described in the Magus Of Java. Perhaps David Only had This Energy for a Short Time & Was really Duped into Paying a Large Fee.

Little 1 Could You possibly give Us a little more Detail about the Letter ? If You have some infomation that may stop others getting hurt You'll be doing the Righteous thing Brother. Thankyou.

Lets end this now Shall We . Its been proven time & time again that David Verdesi & Jette have clearly lied about this Seminar in Denmark. Now they offer a Grand Story that Wang Liping Himself is not allowed out of the Country. Further throwing more blame on Master Wang & The Chinese Goverment (who are most likely watching this forum) What kind of Fairytale will they muster next. The truth will set You Free Guys.

Good Comment, It appears that way .

Hi Guys, I just visited David Shen Verdesi's webpage & found this. Course 2 - Returning Students - September 24 - October 7, 2008 Transmissions: SZG2 - Sheng Zheng Gong Level 2 NG1 - Nei Gong Level 1 "Wang Li Ping Shifu of the Long Men Pai will be present" Tuition Fees and Payment Information Tuition Fee for one course: 5000 Euro Down Payment for one course: 2500 Euro ------------------------------------------------------ So will Master Wang be present during Davids Seminar ? I dont understand why Dr Verdesi charges so much money when Master Wang is only half the price ? My Question is...... Why would anyone even consider training with David ? http://www.traditionaltao.com/index.html/h...ubsection/ID/16