r.w.smith

Hi Guys, I think its soooooo very important to prepare the Physical Body first - By Sitting for long periods without any discomfort whatsoever for example. If you really want to progress, Then ideally Lotus should (must) be performed while doing normal everyday activites, Watching Tv,Reading,etc (not just meditation). Learn to sit in perfect stillness for at least one hour before even attempting to meditate,That way your mind can truly focus on the task at hand. So next time guys, dont sit at that table,Dont lay on that lounge lol, learn to love the lotus and make it your second nature. Thanks,

Thanks very much also Kathy, This is just great. They do sound like some great techniques. And the best part is its probably very safe. Some styles may have similar techniques but could be very dangerous, I would fully trust the Methods being offered by your school however. All the best,

Bravo Ymwong , Your time & Effort is much appreciated over here. Thanks a million for making the teachings available in english. Some of this material is so in-depth. This sounds like such an advanced system with so many key points to remember. It would be virtually impossible for anybody to practice on their own, That being said however, I still find the information priceless . Thankyou very much, Bob Smith

Hi there Everybody. I just recieved a private message from a trusted source. What im about to post was recently posted on Davids Foundation Forum. The person wanted this matter bought to the attention of everybody here,So out of respect for him i will re-post it and leave his name out. I think its clear to one & all to see the bitterness of David. I feel simply its because he cannot monopolize on Wang Liping any longer. Thanks & Enjoy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The new Daoism wave, Liping and students Thread Started on Nov 6, 2008, 7:16am the matters at hand is the seemingly rebirth of Daoism in China, this is as mentioned a while ago part of a long term plan for the reintroduction of religious value in the communist structure of chinese politic, pedagogy and society at large. Suffering from the constant sense of comparison and inferiority complex and also becoming harder and harder to deny the need of the masses for more then just moralism ( see the surge of qigong sects and both islam and christianity) a slow process started in 90's of preparing the ground for the rebirth of religion, that is autoctonous religion, i.e. Daoism in China. Liping is the man for the job that is his destiny and as i mentioned already a couple of years ago, the Olympics would sign the official opening of the gates. Liping will become more and more a public persona with huge government support propaganda behind and the cream of china intellectuals to back up the operation, the goal is simple, Daoism to everybody for the pride of the state, this they realize cannot happen without including westerners, they are eventually surrendering to the reality that there is more to the world then just China and its walls, globalization has hit the mark. as i was with him there in the last 4 years of transition have seen changes and event from a relatively good sightpoint. i must say to a great extent his biography (written in 92-93) and all the followed, (1 books and a collection of articles) has been part of a well thought plan of propaganda of the new daoism and his pope, Liping. ... Liping has always been very straight, at the beginning of each class i presented to, private or public he clearly stated he teaches the religious aspect of Daoism belonging to the mountain or hermit tradition, this alone is a statement made in a very chinese way that says: forget ever achieving it, this is a tease. ... (here Liping play the game for he caress people ego saying things without saying,giving the easy impression things are bigger then they are whent it comes to some of his students, is very sweet, excellent didactic to put people up and commend them, but when getting the hard facts, i found lots of inconsistence or anedoct at best or in most cases those unique peak which happened only once or twice in the person practice career) ... his destiny is to reveal the techincal aspect of his tradition, to show that everyone can practice it no matter who or what because will "make you youthful" and be "good for you" will "heal you" and the usual kind of lets admit it empty meaningless promises you all heard 1000 times before, (not that they do not deliver to a certain extent and for certain people) ... Along with Anna we were the only 2 foreigners at a highly secretive meeting od advance students and senior practitioner only (please take a bit of the sarcasm in the word advanced) around 150 people who follow him since the 80's 40 of those supposedly with balls so to speak....i spare you the sadness and disillusion but will mention that i do happen to know shen zhi gan who took great pride in telling me how much he knows and how many books he wrote and that he makes froums blogs and god knows to spread Daoism, commendable...unluckily big mouth but not much essence (plus in 10 days of retreat caught him 3 times drunk out in the night, out of seedy karaoke nothing wrong i love those places, but then don't play the pure, sinless, desireless and near enlighted dude during the day) and lots lots of both conceptual and personal....concepts made of him and a couple of others (lu ya ping) in the 10 days there a gathering of zealots. Furthermore aside being a fanatic zealot he does truly exagerate and make real, things which are not, unforgivable in this field (like people having all kind of miracle opening the "orbit" the 3 eye and such and so, mostly as usual just sensationalistic experiences, induced by Ling, Shen or of Qi but again to feel something is not to have achieved it) was very disappointing, to see them take distances from phenomena like Falun gong or similar just to mention) but then faling in the same trap of feel good great experience kind of thing confused with actully achieving it. The top was reached as i was bugging some of the loud mouth among them to prove their achievement, but nobody could, they all went crying to Liping for having hurt their...shall we say ego? and made then loose face, once Shen Zhi Gan and Lu Ya Ping looked at me and said, "ohh your channels are close and you have no qi even if i show you, you would not feel it ? i had a good laugh about it (i just passed the yin yang gong test) but truly quite sad in fact. and most of the so called great things they witnessed are merely more then of the usual mass effect (still definetely some incredible healing yes and random miracolous Ling events but then again this is something different and no need to go to china for that, shall we mention many great Christian charismatig mass healing and divine revelations?) Of the old students i interviewed only 1 did actually pass the test and has achieved some actual results, but could not show it because he needs 3 months of celibacy and 1 months of being vegetarian to prepare for a demo.... i mean...COME ON, and few others did succeed in enter a lesser Ding (of 15 hours is like a 15 hours samadhi, remarkable but...after 20 years of meditating 4 hours a day not so impressive) but still not the xiao ding necessary to practice death and real Shen transformation (72 hours). ... Still definetely he and a couple of others have been around Liping for long time and have gathered lots of technical informations of mixed value. Unlukily the all operation is turning in to a manualistic kind of glorified mantak chia, technicism without depth. was quite a disappointment for me personally. ... David *** QUOTE changes Thread Started on Oct 15, 2008, 8:11am Dear All after a long while its time again to write here again. ... The reason for me to write is to announce something which am sure will stir some waters. In brief recent events brought the beginning of a new journey, having achieved that which sparked the all search and having being guided by those of the Miao Tong Dao whom i remit to, its time for me to open the doors to those of you with interest and means directly to a couple of teachers which are to become important figures in the years to come. Having spoken and agreed with both Jiang and Liping on the matter im happy to be the Guan Xi for those of you who will want to study under them directly not just as outsiders or public students but having access to them privately and to the teachings they will be willing to share. those of you interested PM me personally. Prices are as follow ( and can and will change without prior notice) 45.000 euro for Jiang. 24.000 for Liping. the introduction will be formal and sealed which implies your direct access to the masters and the teaching in private form and will of course comes with my support and teaching as well if required. ... David

Again,im not interested in any of your sexual desires or your misguided advice. If thats your way of relaxing & blowing off some steam as you call it,Fine. However i would suggest finding a more creative & healthier way to pass your time. No offence taken, P.S. This is way off topic btw & i would appreciate it if you kept these remarks for another forum.... Regards,

No i dont think sex is filth. What is childish however is how you throw it around, telling complete strangers to go get laid etc. Regards,

I like how Rick Funaki ran away when asked to reveal his level & status What a man.

They Dubbed Him Indian Spiderman ,This is Jyothi Rai & He certainly has some amazing skill in this field. Regards,

Amazing, great footage guys, Regards,

Well said Cowtao

Dont buy into this b.s guys,So many people have lost money thinking they were getting some fantastic magical weapon In indonesia they call this "Keris Berdiri" This may be a heartbreaker for many, but in reality 99% keris that stand can be put down to perfect balance and practice, not spirits and magical entities - although there are keris with spirits in them of course. People try for hours to learn how to stand a keris. They usually begin on grass then move up to smoother surfaces. If the keris is well made. Its just the craftmanship,time,effort, of the creator. This was how it was tested in the old days,no magic or anything. If the keris could stand (usually on the hilt) then it was well made. Then & only then would the specific mantras & other time consuming rituals be performed. Its rare to find magical keris with a mantra hidden inside,as described in the magus nowdays. BTW... can anybody tell this guy in the video is an amazing bullshit artist ? i sent him a pm months ago & man the crap that came back still has me in stitches. Regards,

I think i remember that photo

I think you summed it up pretty well.

You see that guy eating the magic worms, I almost couldnt watch and my partner almost threw up hahahaha (i told her to go away but of course she knew better). And the rooster/lizard thing was pure insanity, no other way to describe it. But still with all that,Very few of these people have anything decent to show. Most are very poor,many suffer some kinds of health problems and usually dont have any siblings. Most of what is termed black magic nowdays is very theatrical and centred more around shock value then anything else. Cheers,

A friend just sent me this,He said it was a super cultivation system, maybe for the ladies. More to come,

Hi Ken, The title may seem misleading. However the translation (not accurate at the best of times) translated it as secret dafa etc. Immortal sister,Im not sure of the exact contents, Maybe somebody who reads chinese could help you, All the best,

No problem taomeow, I think the other translation was something on the golden flower or dao jia etc ? Im not 100% certain however. Regards,

One of them says Lingbao Bifa if that helps you any ? I got the info & picture from the following site. The beautiful photo is from the Second Moscow Seminar http://dao.tjq.ru/04.html

Well i read that he was doing some serious weight training etc,Surely he must know that wont be helping any and will eventually cause serious bleeding. Not to mention the huge amounts of Qi that would be seeping out. I have seen many similar cases over the years & most can be attributed to incorrect Qigong Practices. Trying to become a master on your own is impossible and naive at best. I would suggest some basic health qigong practices, Avoid spicy foods & any other strenuous activites that might further inflame it, Regards,

How are the Hemmorhoids Matt007,Any luck so far pal ?

Rat Temple Rajastan

Many of these masters have been offered 10's of millions dollars for just a few minutes. Some are still paid amazing sums by Royal Kings,Princes etc. Your 1 million dollar randi challenge is pocket change my friend lol , Regards,

No beef with Biff,nice one Sometimes people can have spiritual & supernatural experiences. They may not always be able to replicate or demonstrate what happened,However it does let them know that they are practicing something worthwhile. But i see where your coming from too "That Guy" All the best,