r.w.smith

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Thanks rick

Hi Guys, No i have never studied Kalimasada. However i do know they are a respected & well known group throughout Indonesia. One great thing about these inner power schools is the vast amount of experiments they have created using this Energy. They certainly use what they have to its full potential. I remember a few years back there was a group called the white dove school from Indonesia. They took up the Randi challenge & failed miserably. The name of the game was to identify different colours - blindfolded & using the hands alone to scan. Im not sure why they failed but they did. Instantly many people lost faith in them & they were called frauds etc. However this skill really does exist. Not only by Indonesian schools but is widely used also by many qigong schools in china,japan too. This is one of the simpler tests they perform. The theory being that different colours all have different sensations that can be felt by the sensitive ones. Some energy may seem spiky ,hot, prickly,while another may feel like pins n needles,bumpy etc. Experimentation is the only way. I once heard that Tenaga Dalam develops its own unique kind of energy. Its something like chi but built very differently & often uses conflicting theories in comparison to many softer style Qigongs & IMA'S. But it seems to work. The sad part about today is there are more conmen then ever before. You only need go so far as Youtube,The Internet, to see how this once great art has been reduced to an almost laughable joke. Edit Biff: Even Finding somebody nowdays with khodam or jin today is a difficult task. A hindu guy once told me about a keris he got from borneo, Apparently it had a big female jin living inside it. That night when he was sleeping he felt like he was getting strangled to death. Really it was a fight for his life, He later said that muslim jinns are harder to control then normal ones and are really not suited to non muslims. If you have a real jin,make no mistake you and your family will know about it. Thanks,

Training 24 hours a day for the next 10 years cannot stop whats going to happen. Video Cameras tell no tales Rfunaki.

It hurts me also to see any animal in pain let alone slaughtered. Is God or The Tao unjust ? Maybe its karma or something - if you believe that people are returnd as animals. I dont know,Maybe there is more to this then meets the eye. Everything has a way of meeting full circle eventually. Thanks,

Hi Guys, I cant get this funaki out of my head. The more i think about his intentions & what he did,the harder it is to let go. I want to start a independant foundation. The foundation ideally would be advertised here,on ttb among other forums if possible ? This foundation will be to pursue mr verdesi at an upcoming seminar,complete with video evidence. Im willing to donate the 1st $300 to this foundation,maybe we can nominate a neutral person or moderator to hold the money. When a goal amount is reached (lets say to cover air ticket & accomadation,food) we will then nominate another person,or accept a volunteer to finally visit Him. I have already considered the legal implications,and they are minimal. If we publicize this foundation as a neutral meeting to exchange good will (which it is of course) -but something did happen to get out of hand.... then you guys could never be implicated for donating, because thats not the foundations purpose. Do you get my drift ? Therefore if anybody was charged with something....then only the attacker could be charged........and not everybody who donated to the foundation. If we get this going,im certain donations will start pouring in from everywhere. People will only have to send about 20 or 30 bucks each to our nominated source before our goal is reached. If the moderators feel the thread is incorrect they can delete with full permission. Once again this foundation is created not for any kind of physical threats or attacking people as some crazy people are implying here. Its simply to go and meet David Verdesi with a video camera & ask his permission for an interview that can later be posted onto the net for general knowledge. Nothing more. All the best,

I dont know of any user that has been"outed" for using multiple id's.

This guy needs to be confronted with a video camera,its gone beyond the stages of talking on forums. He is a lier and this lie-shan-dao is complete rubbish and just a marketing ploy. Regards,

A moderator or some neutral source (voted by the foundation members) will be in charge of the already large sums being offered. So im guessing within a short time you may very well have the proof your seeking. Regards Matthew.

Well matt (obviously s secret verdesi supporter) the pms speak for themselves.

UPDATE: Im going to try & answer all your messages asap. However this is going to take some time,i had no idea i would recieve this many pms in such a short time period. Thankyou rfunaki for making this possible. Remember no amount is too small or large. Pecae.

This is not over by a long shot. You want to play games rfunaki & try to hack my pc,you have come to the right person. Your attempts to clear Davids name,Sending fake URL'S (for sinister purposes regardless of what you say) has only turned a bad situation into something far worse. But as somebody else mentioned,any publicity is good publicity & somehow i think David will cash in $$$ Regards,

Hi guys, I just wanted to warn everybody here about visiting suspect websites. Your ip information can easily be obtained from these sites. Unless you know the person i would not be following any links. Im not pointing the finger at anybody,But i know what was planned. Regards,

Hi RFunaki, Since your asking so many questions,I would like to know if you also can provide a little information about yourself. Nothing too personal ,just some general info. Where exactly in the United States are you located ? How old are you ? What level are you exactly in Davids system ? Are you one of David highest ranking students ? If not then shouldnt one of them be here defending Dvid instead of yourself ? Please clarify a few of these simple questions. The more we know about each other the easier it will be to get these silly problems sorted dont you agree ? My name is Robert William Smith & i live in Brisbane Australia. I have nothing to hide & work as a personal consultant. You i understand fix computers ? Is this your own company or do you work for a firm ? What is the name of your business if you dont mind me asking. Regards,

Rfunaki can you please return to wherever you came from. I will even pay you to go away Man you would argue & squabble over anything. Its hillarious, im almost going insane just reading your posts. You want other people to reveal their identity but you will only supply yours to the moderators ??? Thats the most ridiculous request i have ever heard thus far on the bums or any other forum forum that matter Regards,

HA HA HA Classic

This is going to be my final reply to RFunaki in regards to this matter. Fair enough,i will give you the benefit of the doubt. Lets say you can view the ips innocently the way you said. But still man.......why did you send all these people (myself included) a website which you knew had no information on it , It makes no sense. What was the real purpose behind this move ? Peace,

RFunaki, Why didnt you just ask for the Moderators help from the start ? You didnt do that man,But instead (as neikung stated) you went the sneaky way about it behind everybodys back. Then when you were caught out you try to come across as some humble nice guy who wants to negotiate with the Mods and be everybodys pal again. Making fun of somebody is one thing. But busting into peoples computers trying to gain personal info ,All over a forum ? Last but not least. None of these students ever act without David 1st giving the OK . So really these students are just following the masters orders. I dont believe that RFunaki is in this alone and its a shame to see a man used this way. Poor RFunaki is like a suicide bomber in this case being used & abused for somebody elses motives. Regards,

How did you know a proxy server was used ??? So you were looking at our ips afterall

Maybe this topic can be combined with the "Qigong Psychosis" thread

ROFL

I was very surprised to hear Davids comments. He handled the matter very well i thought & demonstrated a decent level of maturity. However, You see how easily that situation could have turned into something much worse. Even to the point of breaking the law,stalking charges,etc. Thank christ David pulled these Lunatics up before something serious happened. I couldnt imagine S.D doing to well in the local prison system for 2 years with the infamous bubba on his tail Regards, Regards,

Thankyou Lino,

Well i aplogize for the lack of information. However i dont think you guys are in any trouble. Its mainly some others who have taken part in the verbal bashing of a certain individual. We were all sent links to a non existent website in the purpose of obtaining our ip details. Regards,