r.w.smith

Hi There, i remember Master Yuanming Zhang from the U.S taught this method. This was taken from his old website www.qigongmaster.com Tiger Qigong Because it is the essence of Taoist Medical Qigong and Internal Kungfu, it was only taught to the royal family in the past. The tiger groaning mantra enables you to gather qi and circulate it in your body. It also teaches you how to make qi water through tiger calligraphy. Each of the eight movements can be used as an individual method in the standing and sitting posture. You can also apply it into qi-emitting and self-defense. It has a remarkable effect in strengthening the body and building up internal power. Introduces three forms of Tiger Qigong. Taped in New York. Excellent translation and designed as a teaching tool. Includes a "Follow Me" section. (Solo or with a partner) (52 min)IC-YZ 203 $39.95 Cheers,

Hi all, I just spoke to a few people who attended Kathy Li's Seminar in Atlanta Recently. Several people have complained that nothing about the golden flower meditation was explained or even taught,among many other things advertised Here. Kathy's response when asked why they will not be learning this was........... Master Wang said so. Some other This is not right. If you advertise something & people pay money, then you must teach what You Advertised. Imagine if somebody flew from another country on the Hope of learning these arts,Only to be told they wont be learning them. Much of the Instruction was so basic & consisted of a little tree qigong (ping heng gong) and 4 main breathing techniques. However The students had the Great Oppurtunity to speak with Master Wang Via video link who was in Russia,Holding another Seminar. I truly thought there would be more then 7 people attending this event. I expected dozens or hundreds. Not as popular as i thought. Its unfortunate that 1st impressions last a lifetime. Regards

Im sure Kathy Li is a nice Person Too. But The Article was not an attack on Her Personality. The only thing mentioned was The Subjects not being Taught What was Advertised. Nobody was complaining about Kathy's Attitude. How this even got dragged into the Picture is Beyond me. Secondly,I think if people had the Decency to come forward Earlier & Share a little about the past seminars, Then things might be a little Different. Its unfortunate that the very first bit of Information we hear regarding Master Wangs seminar in the U.S is not very positve. Its almost like they (The Students Who Attened) have been forced to comment here, Rather then genuinly sharing out of good will. Now I know how busy You are with daily life etc, arent we all ? But come on, A little write up Here & There is not much to ask for and dont take much time either. There have been at least 2 or 3 WLP Seminars recently,Yet nobody has bothered to post anything about them here. I feel if Individuals are going to use this Forum to Advertise & Promote Seminars,Events, Etc ,Then the very least They or The Students can do is give a little feedback @ The Taobums. Thats not much to ask. Cheers,

Yes its not a Hard Drive, But its clearly False Advertisement. Thats the only point Im trying to make here. Thanks.

Typical westerners attiutude ? I agree 100% with you Ken..........But here in the west my friend,If you Advertise something & People pay $$$ Then you must teach. Its as simple as that. Nobody wants their money back, They just want what was Offered. Like Vortex stated earlier,This is False Advertisement . Its like paying $200 for a 160G Hard drive, Only to get home & find out the salesman lied and its only 80 G. Peace.

Many people get bad knees from Incorrect taichi practice & Subconciously twisting the knees. Theres a chen instructor in my area who has had something like four Knee recontructions. The simplified 24 yang form can also cause many knee problems. One of the best practices to correct or at least sooth this problem (before its too serious) is a narrow horse stance (feet shoulder width) held for a mimimum of 20 minutes per day to re-align your knee etc. and the golden rule,Never let your knees go over the tips of your toes without expert guidance and correct structural allignment first. Hope this helps some.

Hard Qigong is termed Ying Qigong. This is stuff like Iron Palm/Head,Smashing stones,Etc. These styles are for Combat Purposes. Soft Types of Qigong Focus on building Health,Peace of mind,Etc. Although both styles are said to have great health benefits.

"ERROR" I Quoted The Wrong Post Above. I Meant To Quote Kens Post But Accidently Quoted YmWong Instead. Sorry For Any Mix-Up, R.W.Smith.

Absolutely Wonderful,Truly Amazing. Thanks so much for sharing about your School & Other Taoist stories Ken. Your input Im sure is Appreciated by many. Regards,

The only kind of Artist David even remotely resembles is a Proffesional Bullshit Artist.

I know When people start learning Real,Authentic, types of magic or energy work, Then They must closely guard their thoughts , feelings & emotions. Your Intent doesnt matter in some cases, Just becoming angry with the person is enough and could prove fatal This is one of the main resons why its so hard to find masters willing to share these arts today. They are simply too dangerous to teach. Later in life The masters begin to think about their karma etc & usually will die with the system in many cases. Regards,

Sean are You still the Front Man or Spokesperson for David ? Thanks,

I just recieved another pm. I couldnt help but laugh at reading the first article. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The first post is from 2007: QUOTE Clarity & objectivity, Sex Experts read with care Thread Started on May 5, 2007, 5:37am The Sexual practices that are out there are NOT part of Zhen Fa, yet there are existing Zhen Fa on such topics and they do yield the result described in classical literature (still not easy to achieve). ... Maybe not everybody knows that my first experience with such practices goes back to my early teenage hood, my very first "Sexual Gong Fu" teachers in Taiwan were the "White Tigress", and they opened a door for more research in the years to come. The lineage i studied is different from the one mr. Hsi Lai wrote a couple of books about, but do share common elements it seems. For this training in my foolish youth i slept with nearly 1000 women this is a fact, many of them were so trained to make a man come without touching him, people pays thousands of dollars to be with such women in Asia and not only i have been with them and was "trained" by them but did so without spilling one drop of semen for 6 years; and without using finger lock, neither having sperm reflux in the bladder; so i did know what i was doing pretty well having also experienced many blissful states even before meeting an enlighted master in the matter who would teach me higher aspect of the art. (I then paid and repented many mistakes and for example gave up extreme fixation with semen retention enjoying a more natural sex and applying the acquired skills for the right purpose and still i did managed to damage myself) Plus along the way I spent time in Chinese gerontological hospitals and special centers for sexual rejuvenation, and during years of comparative research in India and Tibet as well i did not only compare the theory but engaged in active "field research". So whoever claims to be a sex guru or to know about application of sexual tricks and gimmicks for whatever purpose, i have at least something to compare in the matter. ... Bring me many of the so called gurus i invite them for my spring party see how many Daoist trained lady Tigresses they can entertain for lets say 6 hours to begin with, we generally play for 3 days... i want to see how many of them can actually not only retain their "essence" but recirculate it and be rejuvenated and refreshed...I will be surprised if they can even walk at the end of the 1 day.... think, reflect, look beyond, how deep is the rabbit hole? cheers David ------------------------------------------------- The second post is from end of 2008 - a recent one. A new "Lei Shan Dao" Master. Good grief! QUOTE a new Lei Shan Dao master is giving transmission Thread Started on Nov 21, 2008, 12:44pm life is marvelous, and full of surprises, who would have ever guessed that the holy words of shifuji in korea would be so very true...as i mentioned when i told him about going back to China he kept laughing and kept telling me to go back to italy (for now at least) well to make the story short, in line with the incredible destiny who had Da Zhen first appear to me in vision here in Italy to guide me eventually in China a second master of the Lei Shan Dao showed his face shortly after i got back to the eternal city right here in the heart of Rome and giving what i saw so far he must be at least a level 45 or well above in Mo Pai standard (john chang is a level 20)... have seen for the 3 times in my entire life the much sought after achievement of living handprints and footprints on rock. Now isn't it an irony, now that thirst have been quenched and am not looking anymore the next great master of the Lei Shan Dao appeared and yet again im back on this controversial and difficult path, not sure at this point if its me attracting them more then they attracting me. The marvelous breakthrough that happened last summer in Korea and the transmission of the Mia Tong Wu Dao from shifuji totally put me on the Da Dao once and for all, yet it seems there is something that truly must be seen in the Lei Shan Dao and seem to be a path to be achieved in conjunction with the Mia Tong Dao, just as Da Zhen back then said. Therefore with renewed depth i commit this body and mind to achieve further on this path as this master was so very kind to consider passing his transmission on to me, and i shall pass it on to all those who earnestly seek. Blessing to All David -----------------------------------------

A wise man can see more from the bottom of a well than a fool can from a mountain top.

I'll Second that one Orb. 394 Hits in just under 3 Hours,Not Bad. John Chang,Wang Liping,VD, Will continue to be Hot Topics.

Yes, This Guy must continue to come up with more wild stories to stay ahead of The Game. I see Now he has reverted back to his old Miao Tong Lineage I cant imagine how crazy he must have been when Ken opened the blog (and door) to Wang Liping for us Westerners. We are talking about him losing big $$$,I would say close to half a million in a short time. Regards,

Yes Vortex I agree with all Your Comments,This Guys getting Desperate & Could be Dangerous. God only knows what this Maniac will come up with next ? The 45.Thousand Euro Introduction Fee to Masters Jiang & Wang Clearly Exhibit a final last ditch Effort on making some Big Bucks. He even sold admission Fees to visit John Chang in Indonesia ! Like some kind of Circus Act. If i remember correctly David Verdesi was "Endorsed" by an Ex Mo-Pai Student. This Ex Student once ran his own Private Forum & Is of much the same Character as David,Only worse. Peace.

Many bulls in Spain, Ha Ha Ha what a Classic Does anybody know if his forum that cost $100 to join is still running ? Cheers

Hi Kathyli,Very interesting. But can you elaborate a bit on the Telepathy part ? What exactly do you mean by telepathy , I mean......are you able to contact Master Wang anytime & relay a message ? Thankyou very much,

Verdessi ha ha ha,Whatever happen to that poor guy Kathyli Will you guys come to Australia ? Theres Plenty of people interested down this way Thanks,

Thanks for the Translation Mjjbecker. I think Kathyli is spot on. A strong Immune System is one of the best Defence against this Disease. However any other kind of protection such as a Fu would be nice to have also for extra strength.

Its not wise to judge a system on the actions of a westerner who went to bali for 1 or 2 weeks & comes back thinking hes the man. Yellow bamboo training methods are very good if done fore a long time. even if you had level 2 mopai in the same situation you would have same result if he just stood there.

LOL You think im Kidding

Remember when John Chang let Mike Tyson attack Him full force for almost 20 minutes straight ? Yeah he was knocked out from Pak John right after with only a touch hahahahaha. MMA is for fools and to compare it to traditional gongfu is a disgrace.