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Here it is. Thanks for joining in! https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jackson+peterson+dzogchen

I don't miss anything. Did you even watch Jackson's videos?

Given the above statement, you should back off your judgment of Jackson.

I was in my first retreat with Norbu in 1989 and he specifically stated that all practices and belief systems have value in helping one to realize the 'natural state'. He was making a non-sectarian statement. Are you going to criticize his son for being raised Catholic/Buddhist and is now teaching Dzogchen? http://myreincarnationfilm.com/film/yeshi-namkhai/

I have vivid memories before the age of one. That is due to the fact that my primary mode of thinking is visual imagery.

Why do you claim your view superior and his is not? This is what you said earlier. http://thetaobums.com/topic/35599-why-do-only-very-few-dzogchen-practitioners-attain-rainbow-body/page-11#entry564920

'Tīrthika' is defined as one who is a heretic. Need I be any clearer? Non-Buddhists are considered heretics. Buddhists claim their world view is universal. That is very much a claim of absolutism.

I was referring to the term 'tīrthika' which you used to characterize Jackson. You used it, I didn't. To disagree is one thing, but to label someone as a heretic is quite another.

By using the term 'tīrthika' you are accusing Jackson of being a heretic. Again, you are making the claim of being absolutely correct and he is absolutely incorrect. The need to be correct and make everyone else wrong is the self-referential feed back loop. I can't make it any simpler than that. Think for yourself and stop making others do it for you.

http://thetaobums.com/topic/35599-why-do-only-very-few-dzogchen-practitioners-attain-rainbow-body/page-11#entry564924 That is just one example of many. There is always a top down relationship with Buddhists in regards to others on here. Why is that?

What I see here is, the Buddhists here have set up a self referential feedback loop as a mechanism of self regulation, so that an immediacy of being absolutely correct is obtained.

You disagree to disagree from an authoritarian position. The fly for starters which has myriad implications. Your statement implies that I need more patience and somehow you have set yourself above me as being a teacher? That is an unfounded statement replete with inferred assumptions. You don't know me personally and therefor have no facts to proceed from an incorrect conclusion regarding any knowledge of Dzogchen teachings that I may or may not possess.

The above implies that you are somehow fortunate and he is not? In what way is he unfortunate? I would also add that you and several other Buddhists are obviously using a double bind technique on anyone who disagrees, whereby all responses are incorrect. FYI, I have read Gregory Bateson on this subject and am well read on propaganda and rhetoric. Why not drop the pretense and discuss the subject at hand.

You come on here with nothing to add and are being a troll. Furthermore, if you make an accusation be prepared to back it up with facts. Your comments towards me are becoming annoying. The fly analogy was not well taken. Moreover, you tried to cover up the fly comment by comparing yourself to a fly. Explain the following.

I think Jackson has been around this a lot longer and is much more knowledgeable than most. Perhaps longer than you.

Here is a place to start. He is very clear and practical. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jackson+peterson+dzogchen

You are comparing me to a fly.

I am curious as to why you choose such a primitive lifestyle and still rely on modern conveniences such as the computer or phone you are using to post here? Nothing natural about it.

Stop the harassment!

Which book?

You keep talking about appearances being an illusion etc. Tell that to the children who are being slaughtered in Gaza that their deaths are only an illusion. Rarely do I see a Buddhist protesting violence such as what is happening in Gaza at this moment. http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/21/gaza-fighting-unabated.html

There is much on this site if anyone cares to read. Some of the articles expand on what I have stated here. http://www.american-buddha.com/skinny.auth.htm#A%20TEST%20FOR%20AUTHORITARIANISM http://www.american-buddha.com/auth.buddhism.htm

Some here may find this article worth reading. http://www.american-buddha.com/dzong.khentse.htm

You claim that some of these Lamas are highly realized. I question that assertion. Why? If one is truly realized, then all the unnecessary conventions fall by the wayside. Further, there seems to be a great deal of attachment to these cultural conventions by these so called realized beings. To me, these realized beings should get real and have serious conversations with persons such as myself as opposed to giving teachings/empowerments with no time for questions/debate afterwards.

There are times when I think you may have been on this site a few years ago under a different name and we had the same discussions.