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I have stated before here about the rise of neo feudalism and neoliberalism which the corporations want. A largely uneducated, low wage with little or no benefits. Throw in a theocracy and we are back in the Middle Ages. The right wing theocrats want a return to the 'divine right of kings'.

Given the chaotic behavior of human primates to engage in wanton acts of self destruction, you may be right. However, there is always hope. Time is running out! Hobbes, Rousseau et al wrote about the human condition and offered solutions. All solutions have been instituted and none have sustained. What we are witnessing is a decline in the U.S. civilization and empire. Like all civilizations, the seeds of destruction are endemic to all civilizations and systems. Toynbee is a place to start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_J._Toynbee http://www.amazon.com/Study-History-Vol-Abridgement-Volumes/dp/0195050800

A little instruction for those of you who still don't understand the difference between fascism, socialism, communism etc. This guy has done his homework! Notice that he quotes from historical documents. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkfga8CmxZM

The study cited 30%. I believe the point spread is -4.5 49ers.

As we approach the Superbowl tomorrow, according to some the outcome has already been decided by God. The 49ers support for LGBT has already doomed the team LOL! http://mobile.rawstory.com/therawstory/#!/entry/onethird-of-americans-believe-god-decides-who-wins-sporting-events,510d775bd7fc7b567014731a

Picked this one up today. Practical application if Kabbalah. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1580623352

Belief has nothing to do with it! It is appalling to me that anyone who is a so called Taoist, forgoes critical thinking (never had it in the first place) and fails to observe the natural world. I am fortunate to spend most of my time in the natural world. Also I keep company with artists, writers, research scientists from Los Alamos National Labs, Santa Fe Institute among others. I very we'll understand the difference between a belief system BS and scientific analysis. JB wants a static linear world in which he and his deniers can exert absolute control.

Joe, The glaring problem with your post is the irrational fear of some massive government conspiracy among research scientists. That allegation is just another unproven allegation. The problem with conspiracies is that the best conceived ones are only between two people and will eventually fail. The 'prisoners dilemma' is a classic example as to why conspiracies fail. Also see the 'Watergate' documents. BTW, 'the prisoners dilemma' is from basic game theory. Furthermore, this incessant worry about money is also a main part of your post. Those two issues remove any credibility from your narrative. To posit 'third order processes' or forcing including rambling about coefficients being wrong without substantive evidence is just fancy BS talk.

I can't wait to see the answer to this one! If JB even answers.

The problem with the denial crowd is one of complete misunderstanding of the scientific method. The so called researchers are paid shills by the oil companies and the Koch bros. Just this past year a research scientist at UC Berkeley whose research was funded by the Koch's in order to debunk the research, reversed his previous assessment to one of supporting the research that global warming is caused by CO2. What Anthony Watts et al fail to comprehend, is that the biosphere is a complex non linear dynamic system whereby the variables change due to the mutual effect of all variables inherent to the biosphere. JB will claim that the models are being artificially skewed. Although it may appear that way to an amateur, the models are reflecting the dynamic changes in the system. The study of non linear dynamic systems and in this case our biosphere, is extremely complicated. What the denier crowd is engaged in is cherry picking data and thereby making absolute conclusions to support their preconceived bias. A bias fed to them by persons who do not have the best interests of all species that Inhabit this biosphere.

I was only referring to the CBO which is not a political organization. I agree that politicians lie some of the time. Some more than others.

No.

I am not ignorant in money matters at all! I happen to be a successful businessman. Just speaking out against blatant lies that only a few of us question here.

What are the limits of TTB and the moderators? Should the moderators be involved in challenging outright lies based on fear and manipulation? In this case the political threads that are ever so much part of the discussion here. E.g. this is a recent exchange with Joeblast who is a known conservative. http://thetaobums.com/topic/26632-rich-ceos-call-for-raising-retirement-age-to-70-medicare-social-security/page-3#entry396924 I challenged this with data from the Congressional Budget Office http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43648 and here is the response. http://thetaobums.com/topic/26632-rich-ceos-call-for-raising-retirement-age-to-70-medicare-social-security/page-3#entry396961

What I was banned for was not bickering but spirited debate. That was the mods excuse. The trite narratives are nothing but trolling. Furthermore, the trite narratives, conspiracy BS, are indicative of the decline of intelligent discourse on this site. Authoritarianism, misogyny, are two problems that I have noted on this site.

Back in the day when Vairaji was debating the concept of no self ad infinitum, I was banished into eternal darkness from this site for one week for having a spirited debate with him. The cause for banishment was one of bickering. Lol!!! At present, juveniles and paranoid conspiracy theorists have infested TTB with trite narratives. Are the purveyors of such ever banished from this esteemed forum? Of course not!

Not to be picky but there is a difference between indisputable and undisputable. Which did the OP intend?

He could at least indicate that.

Not very skillful? In what way? I guess I have come to expect these type of condescending remarks from you.

This response is just what I am referring to with the lack of intelligent discourse on this site. If you knew anything about math, you would understand my point

For a continuation of the OP. Zero is indisputable.

Exactly what is your intention? Sounds like a strange request.

Seems as though this site has been infested with 2 year olds.

Al Gore is a liar? In what way is he a liar? Can you absolutely prove that statement? You maintain that you are always rational and logical. Yet, make gross generalizations whenever such accusations are convenient as a way of spreading the unsubstantiated meme that 'Al Gore is a liar'.

I am neither. I am just pointing out the extremely dangerous right wing movement here in the U.S. FYI the Virginia state legislature is gerrymandering so that the 'Electoral College' will have more weight than the popular vote. The Republicans waited till a Democratic rep. left for the inauguration to pass this voting scam. The rep. body in Virginia is equally divided 20/20. There are a number of states involved in this such as Pennsylvania, Indiana, Ohio etc. The Republicans can receive a minority of votes and still win. There are a number of journalists reporting on this. See search results below. https://www.google.com/search?q=virginia+gerrymandering&rlz=1C1AVSH_enUS471US471&aq=0&oq=virginia+gerry&aqs=chrome.1.57j0l3j62.13590&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8