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Two recent decisions by the Texas School Board that will affect millions of children. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/21/national/main6506099.shtml http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/29/creationists-on-texas-school-board-prevail-watered-down-science-coming-to-your-kids-textbooks/

You posted the videos, I did not! What other great revelations are you about to inundate us with?

The last two videos you posted of Berlinski and Wells, are two highly paid shills that represent the Discovery Institute. The Discovery Institute is a known ID propagandist organization. Is this merely a coincidence? Or part of your agenda? Which is it? For your enlightenment, one who presents a one sided point of view, such as the narrative you have presented here, is being polarized. Further, what I don't care for is the incessant repetition of one or two points on your part. That is an age old propaganda technique.

I believe Vajraji's suspension is almost up. He may be back soon.

I took the position of defending scientific inquiry and by no means meant that to be a polarized position. I have a BS in Ornamental Horticulture from one of the top research institutions in the U.S. and that does not make me a research scientist or that I have absolute knowledge of anything. Science has created enormous benefit and conversely, has created many problems. Further, scientific inquiry never proceeds from any absolute conclusion or postulates absolute conclusions in regards to any phenomenon. Published results for peer review are always stated in approximations, never absolutes. That leaves open further research and debate. All phenomena that are the subject of rigorous inquiry, are studied as part of a system. What has been presented by Immmortal4Life is contrary to any systematic approach. Obviously, he and others of like ideology know nothing of systems theory and only select certain minutia in an attempt to brainwash converts. I agree with Blasto that real inquiry as to the nature of existence and the infinite possibilities of, are to be examined from the middle ground and away from any polarized position. One only needs to examine the history of the human race and see the horror that ideological polarization has caused.

The only reason I continued posting is that his ideology needs to be exposed for what it is. This is not an isolated incident and many like him that share the same ideology, will continue forcing their propaganda in many venues.

They are fierce advocates of ID. The last two scientists are paid advocates of the Discovery Institute.

Another Discovery Institute ID advocate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Wells_%28intelligent_design_advocate%29 He has formulated; “Ten questions to ask your biology teacher about evolution,” and he even provides ten ready answers. I guess that is for those who have no capacity to think.

Dr. Berlinski is a Senior Fellow of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture a religious think tank to promote intelligent design.

If you would show your hand and stop believing you hold all the ace's, then we might have a dialogue. Instead, you have yet to answer any questions asked of you.

This is where you are in error. Anytime a species adapts to a new environment, different food supply, by evolving survival mechanisms and even transformed physical structures, that is considered an evolutionary adaptation. Darwin's Finches are a perfect example of a bird adapting a different beak structure as a strategic adaptation. BTW, to evolve means to change gradually over time. http://www.biology-online.org/2/11_natural_selection.htm

The more the better! What scares me about his type is the influence gained in setting the public agenda. Whether in politics, "the USA is a Christian Nation" insanity, or even slanting public education in favor of their religious ideology.

I would also like to see where he is going with this. There are many with the same ideology that are trolling forums and using the "wedge technique."

I have been asking for the same thing and so far nothing!

I for one am not interested in returning to the 'dark ages'.

You are paraphrasing and will you provide an exact quote? The so called ET version would never be in a scientific text.

Who is the designator of proper placement? Perfect harmony? That is an illusory myth that some sort of balance exists in the cosmos. Any attempt to absolutely quantify this dynamic universe is inviting failure. Here is an excellent place to start. http://www.amazon.com/Nonlinear-Dynamics-Chaos-Applications-Nonlinearity/dp/0738204536 One other problem with the harmonious theory is; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

As of this very moment, you have not shown any substantive evidence. Only nitpicking at minutia of minor relevance. If your latest theories are so profound and revolutionary, then where are the documents published? In your own words, will you explain this paradigm of yours? We can make it a peer reviewed process right here.

You are still missing the point in regards to diversity and the evolutionary cause of.

You narrative is not one of balance and only takes an extremist and absolutist position. Further, that remark is one of condescension to anyone reading your narrative.

Post real references please. Your remarks are vague to say the least.

@Immortal4Life, Since you seem to have absolute knowledge, here is one question I have. If, as you have so vehemently argued, that species are created in a state of absolute complexity, then how do you account for genetic and species variation? What that entails is, if all species are in a state of inherent complexity, then structural and genetic differences i.e, intra-species diversity, would be unnecessary. However, in nature, one can observe structural differences across all classes of species. How does your narrative account for this? Abstract The forces that maintain genetic diversity among individuals and diversity among species are usually studied separately. Nevertheless, diversity at one of these levels may depend on the diversity at the other. We have combined observations of natural populations, quantitative genetics, and field experiments to show that genetic variation in the concentration of an allelopathic secondary compound in Brassica nigra is necessary for the coexistence of B. nigra and its competitor species. In addition, the diversity of competing species was required for the maintenance of genetic variation in the trait within B. nigra. Thus, conservation of species diversity may also necessitate maintenance of the processes that sustain the genetic diversity of each individual species. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/317/5844/1561.abstract

Only debunked in your mind.

Your statement implies that evolutionary theory has been debunked. Only in your narrow belief system which is one of extreme polarization.

Anti evolutionists have produced no evidence to the contrary and by presenting irrelevant minutia as a new theory, begs the question. These arguments are no different from the edicts made by the church declaring that the sun revolved around a flat earth. We all know how that turned out.