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I asked him if he was affiliated with Max and he did not answer.

His book is floating around online, Amazon or your local library. What I mean is that by describing verbally any object, that verbal description is not the object. The verbal is an agreed upon construct that is not the object. Try just experiencing the object with your vision and feelings and let the verbal constructions go. That is more of a direct experience.

Virtue translated as willpower feels right to me. I believe the human dilemma that Aristotelian limitations has imposed is one of giving deference to the small verbal area of the brain, at the expense of the very large visual capacity of the brain.

What I see in this thread is a human attempt to classify the life force. No matter how one attempts to anthropomorphize the cosmos, all attempts fail at any notion of quantification. The universe is not human and possesses no human traits! Why bother? For anyone with any amount of curiosity, a reading of Korzybski's seminal work, "Science and Sanity" is very enlightening as to the limitations of language. In that work he explains the Aristotelian trap of a simplistic yes and no pattern embedded in all language that is nothing more than, absolute yes and absolute no. Leaving no room for infinite possibilities and only further debate over, yes and no, black and white, ad infinitum. Is this thread any different in scope as compared to the dependent origination rant (Vajraji) that claimed absolute truth?

That is what I meant. Humans have been projecting all sorts of ideology onto cosmos.

Why not give a true translation of virtue. I don't believe it is a Western point of view.

It amazes me how humans anthropomorphise the universal forces. The life force is amoral.

This is a good one and after just 5 min. I feel great!

Just sent you an email. Your responses area absolutely right on. Thanks!

What I meant was Max should start a religion and file for non-profit status. Toledo?

Dark matter is inferred to exist, therefor, the structure is unknown. Your supposition is incorrect. Electromagnetic energy is a waveform and can be measured. I have heard about cells beings crystalline in shape and have seen no concrete proof. Why not post some data to support your premise.

Energy is not a crystalline structure. Where did you get this idea?

Then why are they called Shaman workshops? A bit misleading if you ask me. BTW, you have waged two ad hominem attacks on me tonight. Please note the insult policy.

I would like to add that Max is claiming some type of Shamanistic knowledge that he received from Mongolian Shamans. Now he is giving trainings. I have seen this in Santa Fe over the years where someone is offering Shamanistic training for a hefty fee with no credentials. Now there are hundreds of women masquerading as Shamans. I guess the drum and rattle they carry proves it. If one carefully reads Eliade's work on Shamanism, the training is rigorous and it takes years to train for such a position. Further, most don't even begin to meet the specific requirements. NDE being one requirement. I just remembered that Max was struck by lightening and his third eye is fused, whatever that means. I have yet to see how a non physical chakra can be fused.

Are you affiliated with Max in some way?

In your view one should just lay prostate before Max and all is revealed? That will never happen!

There are a few here who will do anything to slam or discredit me for asking astute questions. It is very possible that I am a very advanced practitioner, but you never know!

I went through the whole thread last year on the photos and posted my thoughts. Why not read the entire thread. Here is the thread. My link Here is the link to the Portland Kunlun school complete with a few photos. Scroll down the page. My link

I just received the email on this. Primordial Alchemist is now an LLC. Kunlun has been trademarked. Strange!

Your last comment is really an insult!

Was this before the Kunlun days? He was teaching martial arts till about 6 years ago.

You don"t know me or have any knowledge as to how much heart I have or even what I need! A less powerful practice? You proceed from an incorrect assumption! I have practiced and achieved many powerful practices including practicing Kunlun.

This thread is in regards to the facts that would support the claims Max has made. Why not just post real experiences as opposed to assumptions, empty beliefs, hearsay and what have you. What is wrong with asking for facts? Max is generally known as a coyote, a trickster. Indian is lore is full of stories around this archetype. I for one would rather be around someone who is straightforward and honest! Has anyone here seen Max or Kan turn transparent, throw people around with empty force, had empty force applied to themselves or even manipulate someone with the famed red dragon technique? Human primates have been led down dead end paths for thousands of years and the spiritual seekers of today are no less vulnerable. Why does that occur? A fascination of anything mysterious, parental projections onto the teacher or any number of psychological reasons? Fear perhaps? Wanting more control? Or, does the quest for power supersede all motives? I just wish spiritual seekers would be honest in their motives around what they are looking for. I would like to believe in what I have seen in the photos of Kan and what Max has claimed. However, I will not be taken advantage of! I have seen way too many fraudulent expensive gurus and groups come through Santa Fe, which is one of the areas for spiritual ripoffs. One example that I can think of is the cult that committed suicide in Rancho de Santa Fe outside San Diego a few years ago. They truly believed that the approaching comet was going to save them and they all drank the poison kool-aid while wrapped in their shrouds. That particular UFO cult started outside of Santa Fe. Where are they now? What did belief in the leaders propaganda serve them? The need to belong to a social group of like minded people can be very powerful. The dynamics of such groups can be equally powerful in excluding the nonbelievers. That is what I see on this thread from several members. If I critique in order to find the facts around Max, I am seen as an outsider, a threat to cherished beliefs and one who brings negativity to the group. Those that have projected that on me are incorrect!

I guess some like you are unable to handle critiques of belief systems. You must be insecure or otherwise it would not bother you! Belief in something fraudulent can be very powerful. I guess in your view one should believe and see if it is true? If it isn't true, then time and money are wasted. That is proceeding from an incorrect conclusion, a false assumption.

Girlfriend. She controls everything while he is behind the scene.