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Very few if any overcome millions of years of evolutionary hard wiring. Put any so called realized person in a war zone and see what happens. I guarantee basic instincts prevail in the need to survive. Talk is cheap, especially on the internet.

That is very cruel! 40-50 million died during WWII and all the suffering was self inflicted? History is replete with human suffering and Dark Ages thinking is no excuse for condemnation of others!

Evolution. Both innate and conditioned responses. The human species has always been violent with very few exceptions and no belief system or religion will cure the problem!

I always drink a lot of water when I am sick.

One doesn't need to explore to be spiritual. I know a lot of spiritual persons that don't have a need to explore and that doesn't make them any different. Do you spend any time in the natural world. Mountains, desert, forest etc.?

That clears up your intention. I will give you that, but in my view it its difficult to categorize persons into levels. What defines a spiritual seeker? That is a very broad category and there are no specific definitions.

No. He is putting himself above others here by distinguishing between ordinary people and himself.

“Ordinary people”? Figures that your attitude/worldview would reveal itself here.

‘You’re quite welcome! I had a touch of either the flu or COVID for three days. Aches, fever, sweats and chills. No respiratory or any loss in taste or smell. It was very odd that I would cycle through all the symptoms in a very short period of time then it was gone, only to return again. All in three days. Is this similar to your condition?

How bad is your infection? Get well soon!!!

There are a number of points in my post and why not be clear as to what you are laughing at? Not lost at all. You don't know me or anything about me so stop assuming you do.

Rabid? Laughing at sexual abuse is no laughing matter! Even the Dalai Lama admitted he knew it was happening for decades.

The sexual abuses are factual!! Not projections!

Please elaborate.

I think so called non-dualism has been misunderstood in that it has been bantered about mentally and not felt physically. Ein sof or pre-manifestation, or life force, depending what one terms it, must be a powerful force of creation. Not the void as some believe. To contact such a force must be life threatening. What is in space both internally and externally? Ein sof translated means totality.

Thanks for posting that important article. One point I want to add, awakening, or whatever term one uses, can be a massive shock to the entire being. A much higher voltage than normal. Some Sufi masters tend to amp it up and are conduits of life force energy. https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Attack-Sutra-New-Commentary/dp/1559393912/ref=sr_1_1?crid=371VN5987QXJZ&keywords=Heart+attack+sutra&qid=1654642014&s=books&sprefix=heart+attack+sutra%2Cstripbooks%2C139&sr=1-1

It was the way Norbu taught Guru Yoga, or the way I practiced it. I always have experiences that are out of the box that no one else can figure out, which is why I rarely discuss it. Norbu was a radical contrarian back in the late 80’s when I met him. He taught in such a way that upset the apple cart. A true outsider!

Why resort to gaslighting in the first sentence? That is the Buddhist view. I was stating facts regarding gurus that are held in high esteem and worshiped by many. Many of whom turned out to be sexual abusers etc. Includes the Tibetan gurus. I think that non-dualism makes one passive even the the face of disaster. @silent thunder You think sexual abuse is hilarious?

Growing in the sense to get away from it. Tell the untold millions of devotees to wake up from it is a useless exercise.

I have known a number of Trungpa devotees here in town and to be honest his abuses lost favor with many, including me. I am not looking to find a guru or consult with anyone, but appreciate the sentiment. I stopped taking teachings shortly after the retreat with Norbu back in 1989. Guru Yoga practice fixed the search for a special teacher, rather quickly. Although, I found Keith Dowman's teachings worthwhile on one occasion. Are you from Santa Fe? Arroyo Seco South of Taos and not Arroyo Seco just outside of Santa Fe. The natural world can be a great teacher. If one understands how to engage it.

I look at their actions with no projections whatsoever. Yes, there are some good people, but religion can and will bring out the worst!

It takes all kinds. Here in Santa Fe NM it is a hodgepodge of wannabes and ones claiming some sort of realization. At the local Tibetan center (Stupa) on Airport Road where I was a part of way back in the late 80's there was always infighting amongst certain individuals. Kindness among the members there? The so called highest realized individuals in the Tibetan Dharma King lineage have been accused of sexual abuses imposed on women and children. The Dalai Lama has admitted as to having knowledge of sexual abuses, for decades. I have no illusions regarding religious belief systems. I have been around this for along time and have no need to wear rose colored glasses like most. Gangaji and Pamela spent a lot of time here in town with the same types of individuals.

I never went to Goenka's retreats in Massachusetts, but did meet him when I was a student at Ohio State in the early 80's. I had private instruction and continued on after I graduated in 83. The monk like atmosphere as outlined above is not my thing and completely unnecessary.

Beyond non-dual is that one doesn't have the need to eliminate at all. It transforms to light.

You are granted special use? Further, most are not in agreement with your world view.