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    Had a feeling something like this would happen. The founder of WikiLeaks is being charged with rape in Sweden. His next release of documents will expose more heinous war crimes by the U.S. military. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/21/julian-assange-rape-case-_n_690009.html http://wikileaks.org/ ralis
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    Your post still has vague generalities. Do you read what you write? Have you read any of the books and articles I recommended. Today and last night they were posted. ralis
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    It was the SCOTUS that appointed Bush by stopping the recount. They claimed that irreparable harm would happen to the Bush campaign if the recount were to continue. ralis
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    Here is part of my argument backed up by facts. http://luis.impa.br/guerra/nuremberg.html Bush and America's Willing Executioners Would Be Guilty at Nuremburg By Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman If he launches an attack on Iraq without the approval of the United Nations Security Council, George W. Bush will be guilty of crimes on par with those committed by the infamous Nazi leaders who were tried at Nuremburg in 1948, after World War II. The law is clear. At Nuremburg, American, British, French and Soviet jurists used international conventions, legal precedent and a global moral consensus to establish a code of conduct deemed the standard for all nations. Key was the "crimes against humanity" prohibition stemming from the conscious slaughter of six million Jews, leftists, gypsies and others by the Nazi fanatics. But also crucial was the ban on unprovoked attack by one nation against another. The explosive fuse that set off World War II was the September 1,1939 Nazi attack on Poland, which was unprovoked by any stretch of the military imagination. By all accounts it was an act of aggression and conquest, which led ultimately to as many as 50 million deaths over the next six years. Article VI of the Nuremburg Charter defines "Crimes Against Peace" as "planning, preparation, initiation or waging of war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties . . . or participation in a common plan or conspiracy . . . to wage an aggressive war. A week before the unprovoked Nazi assault on Poland, Hitler promised his generals he would provide "a propagandistic reason for starting the war". He then justified a "preemptive" strike based on lies about a non-existent Polish Army attack against Germany. The Nazi attack date had been set for more than a year. "The victor will not be asked afterwards whether he told the truth or not," Hitler told his generals. "In starting and waging a war it is not right that matters, but victory." After Hitler's deceptions were revealed at Nuremburg, the surviving Nazis based their defense on the claim of "preventative war," claiming a need to protect Germany from a pending Polish attack. They were the last, until Bush, to use that rationale. It didn't work. For this attack, ranking Nazi commandants, starting with Hermann Goering, Hitler's Number Two, were convicted and sentenced to death. That charge and that alone was deemed sufficient to warrant hanging. Unless Saddam Hussein launches an attack on the United States very soon, any American attack on Iraq without UN approval would be on a legal par with the Nazi attack on Poland. A key US argument, that Iraq was somehow linked to the September 11 terror attacks, has been definitively dismissed. In the eighteen months since, all credible evidence points to intense hostility rather than cooperation between Al Qaida and Saddam Hussein. Colin Powell, arguing in front of the UN, failed to prove any cooperative connection. Iraq has been ordered to disarm by the United Nations, whose legal legitimacy was essential to the 1991 campaign that drove Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. Thus far, there is no United Nations consensus that the Iraqis have definitively failed to comply with the terms of that defeat to an extent that would justify a renewed military attack, one that would inevitably involve civilian casualties. With no claim to having been attacked, George W. Bush has instead argued that his war on Iraq would be "preemptive," meant to prevent Saddam from launching a future war. But Iraq has not attacked anyone in more than 12 years and two-thirds of the country is under a no-fly zone. Thus Bush is merely resurrecting the preventative war doctrine invoked by the Nazis before their Nuremburg hanging. In 1953 President Dwight Eisenhower, the former Supreme Allied Commander, dismissed the idea of a preventative war against the Soviet Union. "All of us have heard this term 'preventive war' since the earliest days of Hitler," he said. "I don't believe there is such a thing; and, frankly, I wouldn't even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing." George W. Bush has now added to the list of pre-war demands a "regime change" by which Saddam Hussein would give up power. Bush then proposes rebuilding Iraq along democratic lines. But Nazi functionaries at Nuremburg also received stiff sentences for approving essentially the same totalitarian statutes that now appear in the Homeland Security, Patriot I and Patriot II Acts authorizing secret arrest, detention and "disappearances" of American citizens without legal recourse or public notification. At Nuremburg, such laws were recognized as a form of state terror. The embrace of such laws in America casts serious doubt on the Bush Administration's real willingness to install democracy anywhere else. When the Nazis attacked Poland in 1939, no one envisioned that just eight years later Germany would be leveled and its all-powerful reichmarshalls would be tried and sentenced under international law. Such a vision seems less far fetched today. America's current military might has prompted the Bush Administration to frame its proposed war in terms of a "crusade" against "evil." But military action against Iraq is guaranteed to inflame the passions of 1.2 billion Muslims. The proposed war is explicitly opposed by the Pope. International support is extremely limited. The US itself is deeply divided, with its economy in serious trouble. The diplomatic campaign for this attack has been handled with all the wisdom and foresight of madmen lighting matches in a room full of gasoline. There is no reason to expect a military campaign would be handled any better. It is clear from the precedents at Nuremburg that any American attack on Iraq without United Nations approval would be illegal under international law. It is also clear that the inevitable civilian casualties resulting from such an attack would qualify as crimes against humanity. And sooner or later, the American perpetrators of such an attack and related crimes might well find themselves standing trial before some sort of Nuremburg-style international tribunal. Given such circumstances, the guilt of George W. Bush will not be in doubt. But the guilt of subordinates giving supporting orders, and of soldiers and functionaries carrying them out, will also be a given. The Nuremburg court, including its American judges, repeatedly ruled that those who "only followed orders" in committing atrocities were guilty of crimes against humanity. Those willing Americans executioners who "only follow orders" in perpetrating this illegal attack on Iraq should understand that they stand to be found just as guilty as the ones giving those orders. And that one way or another, sooner or later, that guilt will demand payment.
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    I don't care what organization sanctions it. It is still illegal! ralis
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    For anyone on here that is for the current wars, I suggest reading the Nuremberg Tribunals and the precedent set for international and U.S. law. The Nazis were tried for war crimes against humanity i.e, unprovoked attacks on sovereign nations. Therefor, these acts are treated as war crimes! The two current wars are illegal and I am tired of hearing the propaganda that the U.S. military is keeping us safe. Further, 15 of the 18 hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia and therefor the U.S. attacks two other sovereign nations in response! The propaganda is very twisted around these wars! BTW, I wrote a paper on the Nuremberg Tribunals during my first year of college. ralis
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    The Crusades and Holy Wars were from circa 1095 to 1291. I thought that was the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. Refresh my history of America's early attacks by Muslims. I know exactly the history of Israel. ralis
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    The Arabs have hated the U.S. since the early 1900's due to oil exploration on their "sacred ground". ralis
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    Here is a place to get started reading on the relationship of Afghanistan and oil. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHI203A.html ralis
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    I think you are being paranoid! The Islamic fundamentalists don't have the means to take over the world. Further, why are you buying into their propaganda? This is the kind of nonsense that inflames this issue. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/28/dove-world-outreach-cente_n_662450.html ralis
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    That is what the propagandists wanted everyone to believe. ralis
  12. Military Training

    Thanks for your astute research. I knew nothing about this program. A green military? What a joke! ralis
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    At this point in time I am beyond left and right politically. However, I want to emphasize what happened during the Bush years that has lead to this tragedy. ralis
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    There are a few participants in this thread that obviously don't understand propaganda and how it is used to manipulate the mind. I would suggest reading and comprehending the following which is by no means a comprehensive list. http://www.amazon.com/Nineteen-Eighty-Four-George-Orwell/dp/0452284236/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1282317903&sr=8-4 http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goebmain.htm This archive contains speeches by Hitler's chief propagandist, Joseph Goebbels. Translated into English. http://www.amazon.com/Mass-Psychology-Fascism-Wilhelm-Reich/dp/0374508844/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1282318252&sr=8-3 Any work on NLP BTW, there a few here that believe that Taoism is just some warrior path. Wrong! It is also a path to awakening! ralis
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    All I meant was Fox News using that mantra to justify anything the previous administration wanted. ralis
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    Would you care to elaborate? ralis
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    Shawn Hannity used that mantra to justify the Iraq war. Freedom for who or what? Do you watch Fox News? Bush used the term "crusade" when referring to the military action in Iraq. The people in that region have not forgotten what "crusade" means. The media has become a right wing propaganda machine. ralis
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    The recent infiltration of right wing Christian fanatics into the military is of concern to me. The USAF Academy is a hotbed of Christian extremism. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8978194 ralis
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    I guess you believe it is the job of the U.S. military to police the world! I suggest you study the Nuremberg Tribunals and the legal precedent created by the trials. Do you even understand why the Nazis were put on trial? The obvious is the holocaust. The primary reasons were unprovoked attacks on sovereign nations. The Nazi officers were charged with war crimes. That established U.S. and international law to prevent such atrocities. The U.S. attacked Iraq which was a sovereign nation by positing a bogus argument which was based on fear! Even Bush admitted later in his administration and on national television, there were no WMD's. In fact the reasons for going to war changed every week. Iraqi freedom etc. This attack on a sovereign nation is a war crime! The facts are out there if you care to read them. ralis
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    The U.S. has a nuclear deterrent and therefor no one is going to attack this country. Besides most countries don't even have a navy. I guess they can swim. ralis
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    You are just parroting the propaganda from the previous administration. Your arguments are emotional and have no basis in fact. ralis
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    The Muslims are a threat to our way of life? I suppose you believe the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are completely justified? Now that you are joining the military, rational thinking is gone. Exactly how are Muslims going to take over the world? ralis
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    Anyone and people are vague terms. Can you be more specific? ralis
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    You are protecting your way of life from who or what? The imaginary enemy that Pres. Bush created and sold to gullible and fearful U.S. citizens! It is irrational to try and separate war from the military. Your logic is faulty. The very act of going to war for a lie can only be done by brainwashed humans. ralis
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    What is your point? I am saying we don't need a standing army. Then the gov't needs just a flimsy excuse to use it. ralis