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What I have trouble with is that these teachings were developed and taught by men. More of the same old patriarchy for thousands of years. Priests in skirts.

Hands in the pockets implies pointing at something or things. 🤣🤣🤣 There are a few terms that are undefined. I.e, unborn, undying, will lead to discussions of eternal, forever etc. A better way is Ein Sof or totality, unmanifest.

Why not translate in terms that anyone reading this can comprehend? Please no pointing. 🤣🤣🤣

@Bindi This reminds me of what Irina Tweedie went through with her Sufi master.

My question is,; are there differences at the root of experience? Perhaps perceptional differences? Many seek out the higher vibe which is believed to be the ultimate. Many believe that Dzogchen is non energetic, but that wasn’t my experience.

Here in Santa Fe NM the Archdiocese replaces the abusive priests with more abusive priests. The lawsuits are up to $121.5 million and as far as I know there is no prison time. Sexual/emotional suppression leads to really bad consequences!

Ken Wilbur has written on this in books or discussed in interviews. If I remember correctly he is in agreement with the disconnection of morality and non-dual awakening. Trungpa's sexual abuses as well as his successor are well documented. Thomas Rich Trungpa's successor was HIV positive and spread AIDS to any number of students in the Boulder Colorado community. Enlightened sex? Rich and several others died of AIDS. Namkhai Norbu once said that if one is beyond rules then one must be aware that others still have rules. Norbu's terrible relationship with his son has been well documented in film and writings. The list can go on and on, and there is voluminous documentation online regarding cults and renegade gurus. As for myself I have stayed away from any meditation groups including Tibetan meditation sessions etc. Santa Fe NM is full of about anything one desires in the spiritual universe. Caveat emptor! Although, I did participate in the Kagyu community for years until the political insanity was way too much, then I left!

Then clothes must be. Why is a pair of pants called a pair? Definitely dualistic!

‘What if one doesn’t wear underwear?

Dualists are already in the non-dual soup, but don’t know it. Were we all smashed together before the Big Bang singularity expanded. Perhaps that is why some of us don’t get along? 🤣🤣🤣

I made one after lunch for the road. Coconut milk, frozen blueberries, almond butter, banana, 1 scoop casein powder and a little honey. Non-dual cosmic. Totally undifferentiated.

Non-dual smoothie? 🤣

BTW, I don't eat the way I described above, but maybe upon an occasion.

What's biscuits without gravy, grits, eggs and bacon, maybe a few hash browns on the side. My grandmother was from South Carolina and the meals she made were amazing!

My partner Patricia said your dog is cute. She is an artist and must see an aesthetic quality that I have yet to see.

I finished a few moments ago. His wife needed to get back in the house to take biscuits out of the oven. They didn't even offer me one, but gravy is an essential part of biscuits.

Sitting in my truck posting here when I should be taking care of a client. 🤣🤣🤣

"The perspective with realization is the same as the perspective before, EXCEPT the obscuring layer of a personal self, past/future, space is wiped away." That is personal identity as I stated. Do you have any experience with realization as you stated? I'm not separate in any way since I had that realization years ago. Given that experience I don't make a grandiose big deal out of it and rarely state it happened.

In my years living here in Santa Fe I have met most of the lamas traveling through here and have received teachings from many. The Dalai Lama was here way back in the early 90's and I attended his teachings also. How do you know they are realized? I bring up these issues as a way of pointing out that non-duel etc. is not what one may think in ones imagination. I have read most of the available literature and understand the problems with human relationships when it comes to all things spiritual. If he was compassionate as you say, then why was he aware of sexual abuses for decades and did nothing. A little fear perhaps?

If ones identity is "wiped away" as you stated, then anything is possible without limit. The idea that some sort of basic human goodness (Trungpa) exists below that veneer, is somehow pure without fault, is delusory.

I am highly critical of religious posturing that puts itself above others. Further, has the Dalia Lama said anything regarding the sexual abuse by Tibetan Lamas on young boys in monastic settings or against women who are victims of the Lama Dharma Kings. Sexual abuse in this regard has been well documented! They may have different ideas, but are not above it all! Actually he did come out and make a statement in an interview where he admitted he knew about it for decades.

@Bindi Aurobindo and the Mother's background was with Max Theon and his wife Alma Theon. The Cosmic Tradition, a Kabbalist group in Europe. A lot of that is covered in Satprem's book "Mother or The Divine Materialism" the first of three volumes. The Mother's Agenda is around 13 volumes is well worth studying. She was an exceptional person! There is only one place/spot in the human energy field that she focused on. That place was verified by Namkhai Norbu, Reshad Feild, et al. Human energy field as measured by Dr. Valerie Hunt describes the body as a complex dynamic energy field.

Mirra aka "The Mother" worked with Aurobindo beginning in the early 1900's, although worked with may not quite describe it. Her writing's are well worth reading. I will post some links later when I have time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirra_Alfassa https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Mirra+alfassa&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

It was attributed as part of her quote. I was asking bindi, not you, since it was she who said it.

Are you referring to Sri Aurobindo's light body? He radiated the golden body of light. I viewed it back in the early nineties and yes he passed on in 1950, but suffice it to say, I saw it somewhere in time.