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True, Daoism has no patent or even a trademark on qi- or neigong :-) The internal energy has been realized and used by many around the world.

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An interesting interview from an inspirational point of view. I am kind of surprised to see one of the few practical details - the reversed breathing. In all the systems I've practiced or read about, this is considered too strong of a practice and not one to be done for too long. Interesting to see he recommends it 100% of the time.

Sure we do! There are so many new TM, Copy Righted etc. styles and teachings... And so many masters who start a book with "Welcome to my world of Qi/Chi" - it is hard to keep track. So I think a show like that is long overdue! Especially for any expert who needs a boost of his understanding of Tao (is this phrase with 2 or 3 oxymorons?) And yes, Chopra as an Indian who recently denounced the importance of the Inidan roots of Yoga will be a good guest on a show about traditional Eastern ways of life. Go ahead and do it! "Therefore the Master acts without doing anything and teaches without saying anything." TTC, 2 Tashi Delek!

Yes indeed. Humble is good. Like in "Supreme Science Qigong Center" Humbleness comes in the Taoist (and virtually all other) traditions, but since this system is new and has nothing to do with any previous Taoist (or other) concepts, methods, teachers, writings - no need to acknowledge them or be too humble in one's own position. Oh wait - it does use "chi", "jing", etc and it look so much like Qigong!!! Wait, wait - actually the site is www.qigong.com. And a Supreme one at that! :-) Hm... Interesting rediscovery. I know of another guy who "developed his own" thing, but he gives lots of it for free http://www.chioshealing.com/ Probably, because many of the wise people ahead of us suggested we gain by giving. Or he is just not a good enough salesman (not everyone is). Don't know. But sad to see Qigong starts to get the bad vibes the Yoga has now in the USA for decades now with the infinite numbers of schools, teachings, methods and granted USA PATENTS !!! Turning ancient spiritual ways of life into self-helping, big auditorium, multi Media events is possible in the USA. It is after all the birthplace of the megachurches and TV evangelists. Whether it is good for the traditions and the truths they keep - I guess some will argue. Pray the Lord! I mean - "Go into Raise hands" :-) Just kidding, Jeff. While pointing the obvious. Good luck! Evgeny Kolev Ar. Heights, IL USA (BTW, I don't see anonymous posts here - doesn't one need an account to post!?)

The sad thing is, that definition of Organic in the USA does not exclude GMO

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The guy created TONS of methods for the Modern Human. Lots of different Dynamic meditations. Not to mention his contribution to the explanation of the existing methods (check "The Book of Secrets") Again - not sure how this answers my question. If Buddha gave you the Answer, why keep on searching? Why hanging in Taoist and other forums? Buddha didn't advocate that to my knowledge, so logically there is a different answer, no? :-)

What did you guys get in UK - the constipation/diarrhea flu !? :-)

Well, there are lots of Tea based forums, Facebook networks etc. I guess many of us love tea (a cup of Keemun next to me right now) Nothing wrong with tisanes (which you referred too). The coffeine is not the reaosn why Tea is great in my opinion. If it were - go for the sodas :-) Many of the tisanes are amazing, healthy and very important supplements! I grew up with them and keep adding more (like Tulsi for example). I also plan to start my own kombucha production. Still miss the point of the thread - questions, opinions...?

The videos you find on YouTube - most fraud or/and jokes. Several actually show how it is done. And then, in India there are competitions on levitations. Which are series of jerk like jumps the body is doing - some friend in TM were doing them too.

Still standing on my post 86: What is the search for, if you already know the answers!? From my point the same LOL can be used for the 36 schools of Buddhism that appeared the day after Buddha died. And still many sects exist today - one Buddhism must be better than the other? Absolutely support Unconditioned on his view about the thread, the claims in it and the ego amounted. Will kick some butt, Sunday, Dwai....! :-)

Wrong. There won't be the concept of ugly/beautiful - Tao Te Ching 2 Deciding that the mountian is beautiful, the raven is whatever, and the picture has this or that meaning - you already separate. Hence you are not accepting, hence - not one with the Tao. I guess I was too subtle in the first post... That would be great, wouldn't it ?:-) But here we are - writing back to you :-)

Can't access it now (Firewall at work), but what is the revelance of games, addiction and getting bored to TTB? :-)

It's not even fun to do this, but... http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showto...ect+with+Taoism Yes, I guess people, who like peace are egoists. Fine with me - another way we see words and concepts in different ways..

Strange, I didn't even notice the people and the animals... The mountains are so nice. And the single tree, that stands there and dosn't give a shit for people, wolves, birds and picture analysis :-)

And one more support on forestofemptiness' and Ya Mu's position. Being after the power is the wrong attitude. many examples of people who obtain them, just to end up... well - not in a nice way. Yes, Siddhis are a sign of power. But you won't get them if they were The Goal. I also follow a Siddhar tradition and like the introduction in "The Yoga of Siddha Boganathar" by T. N. Ganapathy No contradiction for me: A wise man may not have powers. And a powerful man is not necessarily wise.

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I hope your last clarification is not because of my wording...:-( I understood you don't have a Tai Chi partner around, and that's what I had in mind. I guess nowadays "partner" comes to mean few things, if not explained :-) In the case I used it - my Tai Chi buddy. My wife doesn't care to join me on this trip, so I drive 10 miles to meet somone who does. Maybe one day... Or the daughter will... She was coming with me to Yoga. Who knows...

In the way we study Tai Chi, two person practice starts very, very early - 5-6 class maybe. One can easily build the sensation of one's own Chi, yet for any application (martial, healing, reading) one should be able to go outside. The explanation is, that this is done by one's Jing and it can be felt by others, but not by the self. Hence, in order to see how far is the progress, one needs a partner to assess the feeling of what is projected. We can feel and understand only the levels of our Chi, not our Jing. I don't know if this is true. Don't know if I am using the right words. But we experience the importance of a partner, so I feel what you say...:-(

I've thought about that too. I guess I would listen to what they say. And feel the energy around them and from their eyes. I also think a non-master will claim s/he is something and try to convince you. Don't know. Haven't met one. Let us know!

:-) BTW, the guys from Heifer.org at the Green Festival didn't know about the religious symbolism of the Red Heifer - the only time I actually have heard the word used!

Carol, sorry if I take your point too far, but I actually believe, that there is NO OTHER form! Only Free form, which looks form-less. Just last night me and my partner started a practice together and everyone went into his formless-form, as we both got quite well "connected". Once you go deep inside and the energy takes control over the body - there is no form! There is Flow, which one goes with. The Forms we study are just a way to teach the body of the possible Energy Flows - one feels one way and we call this way Ward Off, the other one is different and we call it Roll Back. They are not just body mechanics - they are the type of feeling that the body movement helps us realize! Once the body learns to feel them, you can be sitting in an airplane 10 km above the Earth and have your Ward Off, Roll back, Press without moving! The Forms are just tools. The Styles are just different ways to use these tools, and reflect the specifities on the people who made them (short/tall, slow/fast etc.). It is all about learning the Energy Flow patterns. IMHO, of course :-)

Supporting Mokona. I've been taught not to go with the amazing feeling on expansion outwards. Always go inwards, be sure to accumulate and store your energy in the Dan Tien at the end of the practice, do not practice projections unless you are advanced enough.