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I was hoping more would weigh in on this topic as well; I beginning to fear that the lack of posts here is a reflection of the maturity level of the forum. Are the members here a bunch of immature boys, too self absorbed in their own ball sack to consider the subtleties of love?

This is the point I was trying to make in my thread. Drew, a lot of this is too subjective to accept as fact or even reasonable and I'm a big believer in Chi Gong and Taoist practice. I once saw Chia activate the Microcosmic orbit of a young female doctor. She was so moved, she could hardly speak afterword and tears were streaming down her face. She was able to say to me yes, it was very real, something happened objectively. I think Chia's system is highly problematic, but he does have some ability. Your stories would be more credible if you had more to say about people's reactions and what you talked about with those people afterwords. PS- Max, it would be great if you could respond to my topic. I really have valued your input over the years.

Drew, Thanks again for sharing. Real intimacy, romantic love, to me, entails a healthy relationship. Your talking about Orgasm at a Distance, sexual energy and opening your heart. My questions is how these operate in a real relationship; how do you know if these subjective or objective experiences truly translate into falling in love and sustaining a that love if you've been single and abstinent for the last ten years?

Actually my Mom has been doing Spring Forest for about two years and gave me his books and a CD Rom. I haven't looked at it yet, but I intend to. I understand universal and compassionate love, but I, selfishly perhaps, want to fall in love. I know there is a connection between Chi Gong and Taoist practice and the ability to fall in love, not just healing, compassionate love, etc... I hope others will share their experiences.

I'm listening to the Chunyi Lin interview you linked. I'm definitely going to look into it Drew. Thanks. So, celibate for ten years? I take you are single?

I've read Charles Luk's book. Most people I've spoken to, both in China and here is the States, agree that it's not a good practical guide. I appreciate what you are saying though; so you think it's basically about doing Taoist practices and that eventually leads to the ability to 'energetically' control the process of falling in love in both yourself and the other person? It sounds impressive and yes I think it's possible, maybe. So Drew, are you in a loving relationship as a result of your ability? Do you feel this has added to your ability to sustain a nurturing, healthy relationship?

Thank you for taking the time to add to this topic Drew. I will check out the link you gave; I'm familiar with the author, but I haven't read the book. I have studied Chia's system and found it to be problematic on many levels. Spring Forest is a good practice and I'm sure that doing this kind of Chi Gong could be very helpful, but how do you think it would help? As for your own observations and theories; I have read a few of your posts and found them to be very subjective and feel these things maybe, at least to some extent, unique to you or perhaps some kind of projection on your part, at least partially. Sorry to be blunt. I'm not doubting your experiences, I'm just questioning how much of it is in your head. I'm sure there's a lot to it and I have, of course, not read all your postings and experiences. Perhaps you would be willing to explain why you think the Microcosmic Orbit can help you fall in love more than say just doing tai chi chuan or zen meditation? Curious to hear more...

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You people? Are you referring to the fact that I'm Jewish? You can dish out, but when the tables are turned you become angry and irrational. Sounds like you you have taken things a bit too personally, I was only making a point. Reflect on that Grasshopper. -Matt

You have, why? WTF? So you admit that you have never met David, his students, WLP, John Chang, etc... , I expected as much. I heard you are a wanted felon, any truth to that? Has it occurred to you that you sound like you are many cards short of a full deck? Does anyone (sane) have relevant info on David's teachings? It would be interesting to have a grown up discussion? -Matt Who is Ken?

Houtian, Did it ever occur to you that people might see past your behavior? You haven't met anyone mentioned in the above critique. Please stop pretending you are something you are not, an authority on anything. -Matt

The cost is very reasonable it seems that David has a strong following and loyal students. Testimonials Student Articles I'm planning to attend. I have heard that David is a very good teacher from several students. i Thinks the rumors are just that, rumors. -Matt

Looks like this is actually happening. I would be interested to hear a report from any Bums who go. Who knows I may attend myself.

Thank you. Things have cooled off down under. Such a caring group here.

Turns out I'm lactose intolerant.

Well, I took your advice. Turns out goats milk gives me uncontrollable diarrhea. The stressful part of all of this is that I have lost friends due to chronic bowel problems and the strong smell of feces. After the goats milk I crapped myself at my afternoon yoga class. The instructor took me aside and asked me not to come back until I have the problem under control.

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Michael Becker has become the official spokesman for the Mo Pai in North America. You people really need to let it go.

23 hours of meditation per day for 8 years with another four years of 8-12 hours in samadhi. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> His successor: www.shivarudrabalayogi.com

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Nice one(s) people. Okay, this is some funny, cool, awsome stuff.

1. All time greatest Taobum, Ron Jeremy. This was the original Tao Lunatic. Since the very beginning this charismatic pimp of the Tao was destined for TB glory as he effortlessly glided into the Taobum hall of fame and then mysteriously disappeared, like all great sages of Taoist lore and legend. He is perhaps best remembered for his poignant advice on Taoist sexual practices. Here is just a small sampling of Ron's wisdom in this profound commentary on circumcision, enjoy.

Mal, I'm taking at least a week to generate my list. I'm putting some serious effort into this and had hoped for more from you in particular. *Mal will be featured on my list for his expert combining of pot smoking, meditation and martial arts. Way to go Mal*