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I dont want to debate anymore I quit. Cuz girls ROCK!! Totally!! And beer too!! Yeah beer and chicks!!! Arguing about stupid stuff is such a downer man, a total buzzkill, but CHICKS AND BEER YEAH!!!

I found John on my own. John then pointed me to another teacher. John, just to clarify things DID INFACT INSTRUCT ME IN TRAINING. I can give out Johns name and his location but why? I can give out my teacher's name and location but why? I was man enough to take the big boy route and do things on my own so you can too. I'm still confused as to why I should divulge any info on my teacher. I havent said one thing about my training, my school, or my teacher. Qigong is great, it takes a bit longer to develop the "cool" powers though, and I only use cool because they have no real purpose other than making the observer aware of the limits of the human. Ok obviously firestarting is great for survival but you know what I mean. I'll make this my final post on this seeing as how everyone is getting just a tad butthurt because they want name, number, location, date of birth, blood type, zodiac sign, mothers maiden name, whatelse? MJJBECKER, if you want the name of my teacher and location of my teacher, you can divulge to those who are interested the birth name of John and his actual whereabouts. You expect me to break certain promises when you yourself wont? Now to clear this up again. I found John on my own, or karma or whatever you want to call it, but I didnt have anyone say hey go here and go there etc. From there I did what training John said to do and after sometime he pointed to another teacher. I say I found my teacher on my own because I found John but I guess if you want to get karmic then I didnt really do shit. Again, If a certain someone will post publicly John's birthname and his actual whereabouts then I will be less than happy and post my teachers name and location. So. Whatelse?

I think maybe what was meant by " I found him on my own", maybe he was saying that he found John on his own and John pointed him to his now current teacher? I'm thinkin I'm the only one that's leaning towards the its ok not to give out personal teacher contact info. If we start throwing out names then why not throw out Johns name too? I mean if you argue that it's ok not to give out Johns real name then its ok not to give out another master, which maybe is close to John or knows John well, so maybe they both want privacy?? I'm in college too. I'm arguing the other side merely for debate reasons I'm finishing my first class soon so take it easy

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I found him on my own, not because my teacher had the connections. Your arguement is illogical and makes no sense. For the same reason I , and I certainly hope you aswell, wont display Johns name or actual location is the same reason I wont display my current master's name or location. I wouldnt have succeeded had it not been for John. Go figure that the only reason people think it's closed is because of Andreas. I completed level 2 under the wing of John. From that point on he showed me another avenue. I'm saying nothing more to you, as chicks are watchin I can use my first name too, Steve

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It takes years of practice but you too can have unimaginable power like myself. For a practice like this youd basically sell your soul right? Good. Now, just send 5grand to my pay pal account and I will send you the first manual.

It's not polite to roll your eyes SHEESH If youre gonna roll your eyes atleast throw these on

Mikie buddy....hand smacks forehead...I say puppy you hear vomit...I say washington you hear canadian bacon. I'm having difficulty trying to figure out why you cant put what I'm saying together and form meaning. The relevance of my teacher's name is on the level with knowing John's real name, or your actual teachers name. John himself pointed me in the direction of my teacher. Let's say that I gave you his name, you wont get anything on google with it lol. I'm not giving his name for the same reason I'm not giving Johns real name, or location! As for my level? Just completed level 3. We all have the same abilities it's just deligence and determination that seperate the rest of us. On another note, John can and will train westerners to a certain point. You assume WAY TO MUCH Mr Mike. Yeah youve been kicked out because by definition if he didnt kick you out he would still train you wouldnt he but he doesnt???? Kicked out bud. Not your fault necessarily as everyone gets the boot at some point. My name is in my signature line, quite clear for any and all to see. Best, Steve

Noone said anything about girls WTF MAN??!!!!

I hate to break it to you but there is only ONE SYSTEM that can SAVE the WORLD and FREE MANKIND from oppression. Have you seen the widely popular documentary titled "Kung Fu Hustle"? It has a specific kind of Buddhist Palm and that my friend is THE SYSTEM!!!! I have the manual if you'd like to buy it??? HR

Can it really be possible that the energy in his head is more powerful than the earth? Grounding and feeding it to the earth , I would think the earth would take it? If it's legit right? Or am I misinformed?

So IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR YYOOUU THIS WHOLE TIME ARGH DEATH TO WAYFARER!!!! jk. Sounds like youve had quite the life. Good outlook with all evil youve come through

That's pretty common because from what I understand the only real authentic manuals stay with the lineage, although in the back there is a visual meditation. The one that people are downloading is a reissue if I looked at that right of the original from 1970 somethin so maybe it was reedited aswell

All his topics seem to come back to his product. I mean if it's cool to just sell whatever on this forum then I'm gonna start selling land on here. It's magic cultivated land too. 1000 bucks an acre. He sounds like a cheesey late night infomercial and it's hard not to be insulting but am I the only one whose actually read his posts? I'm all for keeping him on here but everyone seems to be praising him...?

I call bullshit. The greatest teachers that have ever been only needed payment in the form of dedication. Get rich schemes fade fast

Since the mo pai training methods arent posted here by you or anyone else why would you expect anyone else to post them or methods similar to the mo pai? The same goes for his teacher aswell. If you've found a new teacher why you dont post your teachers name? I've asked you for advice before and all you seem to do is ignore which is fine because it's your business who you help but I dont see the reason for him posting all this information when you wont either. Even I, a mere bystander, can see that theres alot of secrecy around the mo pai and other methods. In the book magus of java, John says there are other masters some even higher than himself so it's not impossible to find them, if there's any truth to the book. Also, he says its his opinion about the trio. Not fact. I'm not standing up for anybody but even I can see through the arguements. I also dont see you putting your full name either and for that matter who would put their fullname, full name of their master and the full blown training aswell, if it's that shrouded in secrecy? I dont even put my full name and I have nothing to hide. I enjoy the anonomousness of the forum.

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No not Steve from Brisbaine. Steve from the good ol US of A. It's a common thing to let rise the ego and throw out challenges eh? I suppose that at highnoon tomorrow we will be at the clocktower waiting to do our paces and then shoot to the death lol. Well Mike, I'm only just a tad disappointed with your 'challenge' of posting my full name ( no problem), but my teacher and training aswell? I suppose you'll want me to say John's name and location aswell? I've met John. I found him on my own merit. How do you think I came about my teacher? It's true that the school is somewhat closed. I'm not going into detail about the actual business of the Mo Pai but you are mistaken if you think the school isnt back in John's hands as it is. We can PM all you want but certain things about the Mo Pai arent for public business as you should very well know. However, being a student of Kosta it shows that you are just as disrespectful. For anyone reading this please excuse my insulting behaviour but you have to understand that certain things are being brought up when they shouldnt be, out of respect for John. I'm a dick, I understand this, as I see it there's a difference between a dick (myself) and an asshole (you). The controversy around the Mo Pai for those that arent aware is because of the ego surrounding assholes. I can be as big of a dick as you want. The fact of the matter is that just because you are no longer with the Mo Pai , and I'm sorry to hear that, doesnt mean that other people are just shut off from it too. I've been to see John just a teeny weeny bit more recent than back in 2001. With respect, and I mean that. Steve I cant say for certain about the whole trio of terror lol but here's an opinion on the matter. Andreas got greedy and his ego hurt. Kosta has an incredible ego problem and if for no other reason, read his book and you can see that he has an ego problem. I know nothing of Jim. I think somewhere on the forum someone said he tried to charge money or something.

Hi Mike, I was wondering if you could maybe point those who are interested, like myself, in the right direction. You say that some people teach publicly a method similar to Mo Pai and was wondering if you could maybe say where they are or what region of the world or how to contact them? Oh and why does it seem like there's a Kosta vs Andreas vs Jim thing going on all the time?

Assumptions arent healthy Mike. Assumptions from excommunicated students are especially unhealthy Mike. You dont know me. The only youre right on is the incorrectness in my statement about knowing neigong. Incorrect when put against John of course. Neigong is a commonly used term thanks to the documentary and of course Kosta's book. What most people think is neigong isnt, so of course, I do know neigong better than that of the average practitioner. Dont assume things. Respectfully, Steve aka Dick

The problem with David is that he tries to find all of these "masters" and learn every path available when that gets you nowhere. The system is incomplete.

Hats off to this bum

If people decide to buy his product then that's their business. I dont know much of him but if he isnt on here to just sell a product then he should stay of course. IMO

His Mind Light DVD is available out the door for the low low price of 3000 bucks. His private 3 day lesson is 7500.