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Not with him, unless you like arrogant assholes. He has some 'power' so to speak but dont bother. Here in the US you are kinda stretched a bit to find a good teacher who actually knows his shit. You should research elsewhere and just travel to find one.

I thought his name was Lama Dorje or somethin

Economic collapse....you know that the unemployment rate is america is actually down and low? It's at 6%.

So I keep hearing about the so called dangers of doing these practices and while I have practice qigong I dont anymore and have for a few years been practicing internal only, ie neigung. I just started this topic to get view from different people as to the horrible dangers involved with these methods, seeing as how old people start doing this on cruises I thought "Wow, this can be damn deadly". It makes sense too. Old people who are out of shape, in shape and just plain old, start doing these deadly cultivating arts and are fine so I ask, how dangerous can they be? I can speak personally on neigong and say that it's about as dangerous as a kitten. A sleeping kitten.

After a few moments of reflection I believe I should apology for my assholish behavior. I'm a cut through the bullshit type of guy, always has been and I should be more aware of other people's feelings. I understand that just because it hasnt ever happened to me that doesnt mean that it's never happened period. I can accept that. I only practice internal, sitting and rarely standing meditation, chi cultivation. I used to do qigong until my needs changed and of course my practice changed aswell. In my experiences, neither one has ever, ever been unhealthy at all. I've none one person to become ill but that was because he was cocky and tried something that was similar to pissing on an electrical fence, you can see the sign there but you do it anyway type of danger. Sooo....peace

I respectfully disagree with the more energy you have the more it is going to throw you off.

I fire from the hip 99% of the time when it comes to any response, be it in person or on the computer. Shoot first ask question later. Over bearing sometimes I presume.

Pockets with god given humans seem ignored.

If God wanted you to have pockets He wouldve made you with them!!

Out of curiousity I'd like to know what it is specifically that's dangerous about qigong?

First amendment. I'm an asshole too sometimes.

I've known a number of practitioners and only one became ill and it was from thinking he was the baddest and made an ill thought out attempt to project chi into someone and it back fired. Not only did his own chi come back but the master gave a bit more. It was just to prove a point.

This was posted after my selfish comments.

Very nice website

Wow, I feel honored to be apart of a deadly, seriously deadly community of advanced internal arts. Old people practice a toned down qigong aye? I see. Hmm, how could I have missed it. I think the problem starts at people with Egos the size of the country they live in. That or I must be blessed by the great TAO, because I'm an asshole 99% of the time and practice neigong daily and am fine and progress with amazing results. Well so maybe I should write a book on proper neigong training then. I'd say that you must first become dependent upon alcohol and then experiment with other drugs and then go to jail several times and then start with qigong and progress to neigong. I started this topic as more of a joke. I'm not saying that there has never been a case where someone has tried any kind of cultivation and had severe negative effects but I'm saying the chances of that are about the chances of you hitting the lottery. I'm trying to not laugh at the thought of ol grandpa pulling out what hair he has while wrapped in a straight jacket in a room with padded walls because of his improper qigong training. I know very few things. I know that 2+2=4 I know that playing in traffic isnt healthy, nor is eating paint chips. I also know that I am now blessed. I must be destined to become a true, real deal immortal. I may start setting up seminars, any takers?

The mo pai is as closed to westerners as anything else. Have you seen the sign in an establishment that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"? Same applies to the mo pai. I made that comment out of sarchasm. The point is that IT'S AS DANGEROUS AS YOUR MIND PERCEIVES IT. It's not dangerous. I make this statement over and over and over. Old, 80 yr old people who have never done anything like qigong or yoga, etc, start training in this all the time AND ARE FINE! Is it because old people are more invincible than us younger people? No. It's because the danger is a myth. A myth to keep the student teacher relationship open. The only teacher you need is openmindedness. Open your mind and you can gain in leaps and bounds. The problem is that society puts this whole block in your eyes and mind so that you think what youre seeing is real when in reality it isnt. Running a marathon in the arctic in shorts only isnt reality to most people but to a certain tummo practitioner its his reality. Take that shit out of your eyes. The only danger is ignorance and you my friend are a walking time bomb.

I havent seen any previews yet, only reviews and it seemed that it was just christians who were pissed. I do live in america and as far as bashing goes, I have yet to see a muslim bashing, probably due more to fear than anything. Bill is an athiest I suspect?

You buy a bombshelter and wear aluminum foil hats and buy tons and tons of cheap survival books and dont forget all the cheap survival gear too. I say, and this is only coming from a mortal seeing as how I havent reached immortality yet, that all this disaster talk is getting old. Reminds me of a bunch of pastey white guys, I'm white by the way, with thick glasses eating tweenky and cheetos and drinkin mountain dew while watching x files and debating conspiracy theories. My prediction is this, war wont stop, famine wont stop, hate wont stop until some event of enlightment comes about, MASS ENLIGHTENMENT. Be it a close call from a comet or a couple of nukes soaring through the air or the theory of another planet or celestial beings, I dont care but some major event has to happen. Nothing like 'THE HAPPENING' will happen so let's quit beating that horse.

Another christian bashing movie, nice. Why is it no other religion gets bashed? Or am I misinformed?

Oh yeah well my friend's uncle's cousin's sister's cousin's uncle's knows about this one guy who had his head explode while doing QIGONG!!!! Haha, ok I guess qigong, using qigong sinces it's the fad now, can be dangerous. Doing qigong in the middle of an African Safari or in a bear cave in the middle of summer, or maybe underwater in the ocean after youve just cut yourself, or of course DONT PRACTICE IN THE ROAD!!! Traffic is a big no no!!! Dont do qigong after eating 2 pieces of bread, one and a half slice of cheese and three slices of thick cut turkey with a teaspoon of light mayo and mustard either, the combination throws your chi off and your body will literally fall apart.

Shaking is great aswell. However, go see a doctor. Qigong isnt dangerous. Yoga isnt dangerous. It's quite possible that your mind is doing this too. Go see s a physician then a psychiatrist. Do you honestly think that if it was dangerous 70 80 and 90 yr old people would start practicing? Nope. Their bodies are all ran down so if it was dangerous it would hurt them. It's not.

A man of good heart and will is a man that bothers noone. I guarantee you that if you of good heart, mind and intention, the doors are never closed.

Jah Nigga...I can only hope that you grow out of your ignorance. I'm guessing that you are what 18 or 19? Not meaning it as an insult against all young children but it's just obvious. Jah Nigga, if I were to say the sky is brown with a rainbow flowing through it would you believe me? What if other people who decided to hop on here after reading that the sky is brown with a rainbow through it and thinking that it's cool they decided to talk falsely about it and say that it was indeed brown with a rainbow going through it? Would you really believe such nonsense? I'd certainly hope not. Do yourself a favor and only speak on things that you KNOW. The school is most definitely closed, to egotistical idiots. That was the problem with, specifically, us americans is that we, as a bunch, are cocky and have bloated egos and think we should receive everything. Like having your mother tuck you into bed and reading a nice tale and pulling the covers up to your cozy little neck. We as a whole are spoiled and that shows. We want and demand everything so why would someone who knows and sees the negative in almost every westerner he meets want to teach westerners? For that matter why would he want to teach anyone seeing as how most people nowadays have egos? He wouldnt and for the most part he doesnt. Is it closed? Yes and no. Jah Nigga maybe you should cough up a plane ticket and hunt him down for yourself and ask him over some nice chat and tea>

I'd go see a doctor and make sure there isnt something physically wrong with your body. Before you do that you can go outside and get into a horse stance and do somewhat of a bear hug around the tree and breath in as you visualize a white or pure light absorbing into your body and as you exhale visualize giving the tree a dark or black substance and see the tree push it into the earth or sit in half or full lotus on the actually ground and do the same visualization but it exists through your bottom into the earth. It's probably a physical thing that's wrong though unless someone is attacking through psychic assaults

You'll get a ton of opinions. I've yet to experience anything at all dangerous with my training. It keeps the student teacher relationship open and in check if a student thinks the practice is dangerous. Keep it up.