Spirit Ape

Eff, Yes, my appologies to all when I wrote the comment was having a really bad day although I dont think much of it but its ok for a real beginner to get the idea of chi. Risk, If someone has no idea I would because its very basic and of course basic is most profound although to an extent. Depending what you want Chi Kung for thats why I couldnt reconmend it fully! Ape

Ive had the spring forest information and to be honest I dont think much of it! IMHO... Stances in all kung fu systems, standing in Ma Bu for hours is your initiation, this I did for years under my sifu for hrs untill I fainted and he would massage my legs and give me another incense to stand in a new stance. (Tough love) Anyway Seth sorry to sound rude but if your getting things happening by this system good for you brother, the only thing I see decent is his healing system of running the orbit. regards Ape

Most certainly mate!!! Whats your focus these days, i mean practice what is the arts you are studying? Regards Spirit Ape

Definitely true, but the connection must be strong and you gotta live by the laws otherwise your connection wont be strong. Ape p.s Not the laws of governments by the way....

Hi Ya Mu, Great topic, Although I agree with Drew there is a few things one should look at before they consider starting any type of training be it fitness or Chi, Hard Kung fu etc. What is your goals and if body is one of them or the body will reshape itself from the training involved. All my arts the ones that are internal soft forms, meditation, energy healing, magic etc uses also some type of external training for the body. Its to balance it out, from my arts perspective from its poetry when mastered Soft and Hard as well Yin and Yang you are very high level. Your body from proper training should make you look young and fit. I think people that cultivate Chi lack the strength unless they applying both. Yin Yang and Yau Kung must be understood to accomplish immortality! So what does that mean - some type of cardio (walking chi kung), i never run unless preparing for a fight to test my wind, for the mind meditation and chi kung, for the body eating & drrinking good (which is hardest for me) and lastly some type o strength and conditioning. Now if you look into many internal systems (pai, muns, gars, all complete systems) have this built in. IF your art doesnt contain the building blocks for life and longevity then u have to add something for your health. Again depending on how your system was developed if its lacking or needs to be added some important things as well if you cannot eat properly how can you achieve other things with your mind? food for thought! take care mate Garry Spirit Ape

There has been many old taiji masters fat and dead at a early age so to be honest its not gonna help you if you eat and drink crap. Longlife can be achieved through both Yin and Yang, hard and soft, inner and outer work, fast and slow. Its the quality of life you have as you get older and does your practice give you the best health as possible if not why do it? Ape

Hey Seth, Through my experience in my methods that you are talking about my advice to you brother is stretching the tendons 1st before condensing or squeezing Qi into your bones. Although you may find later that ist one in the same?! Peace and good luck on your path... Ape Also any decent type of Iron Body that has some body beating which will vibrate the bone marrow and release calcium making your bones stronger and more Qi. But as you know even weight training Physcial strength workouts are good for bone strength which means you are getting Qi into the bones. So what does it tell you??

Kool, white tiger i like your name are you a tiger stylist or anything with Bak Fu? Ape

I put up a clip of Burning Palm system on youtube i havent done any more clips, but to show a small part of a meditation and some ways it moves. Ill be producing dvds this year had some set backs but getting things started now. regards Ape

For me perfect practice will show! Someone that follows the path of longevity should look healthy and strong not body builder looking although nothing wrong with body building and chi kung as long as u are healthy eating, internal cleansing, spiritually sound person.

Well done Darin, no disrespect to you my friend I feel your pain cause Ive been where you are at!!! peace Ape

Burning Palm system uses the method you speak of as well internal spring power for releasing power as well has healing system. http://burningpalm.webs.com/index.html Ape

Im being totally honest, if a person has a belly its because of diet and or lack of physcial training. Im not saying Darin isnt cultivated but he lacks physcial health its so obvious. If was also very physcially fit and looked after yourself with your chi cultivation bigger bang for your bucks. Strong body = strong mind = strong chi = strong spirit you have a belly cause your mind is not strong enough to keep your physcially fit therefore one of your elements is out of wack. Ape

Sorry Darin, I dont think that is a chi belly, it is just fat, and u need to do better strength and fitness!

Our life is verfy meaningful, regarding we are all born in the image of god or eternal soul / spirit and we are here to cultivate your chi and connect back to the or return back to the earth and heavens. But you will not find it in money, working etc its within and when you do find your true being and find that you are truly God and we are connected with nature /dao life is just the beginning and your training is very important in your return back to the Ultimate supreme force. peace be with you... Ape P.S Just finished 12 hr nightshift sorry if this doesnt make sense but lately ive found my true being and found many secrets that has blown my mind on all this cultiavtion work we do. Great topic...

Dao Yin = like stretching and breathing opening up the meridians and stretching the tendons also done in a meditative state aslo has meditation seated etc. Meditation as in stillness is that! Ape

Any awareness on the palms will increase chi, holding the ball posture is a skill to develop and cultivate chi as well later manifest it. You can also look at fire between you palms and sometimes water or ice, remember when people have inflamation you use cold/coolness to ease the swelling, for blood and chi moving energy you would increase the energy to hot and warm. Later you can send that ball for healing by programing it and send it in distant healing. This is stuff my system trains, well done keep at it! Remember intent and no intent!!! That is the .......................???? Ape P.S Fire and Water is much deeper then that, just remember when you drink the water, remember where the stream starts!!!

I train internal arts and my arts also contain ancient training methods that use heavy objects, light and medium too! You must understand both Yin Yang and Yau Kung if you truly want to regard yourself as a Martial artist or unless you just doing meditation but even yoga and stuff build the body and keeps it strong so the Yogis can meditate longer and keep focused as well be flexible. Ape

All internal martial arts originally had strength training, body weight and heavy objects lik balls, bags, bars, and weapons to train the power. Shaolin monks was known for there internal power although some think shaolin was only exterbal hard afst forms. Monks also did 72 art of training the body and developing unspeakable feats through meditation and hard methods. Bagua also has heavy balls similar to my art and mine is shaolin system (well one of my systems). You must have hard and soft to have skill! Ape

A kung fu brother and Good friend of mine Sifu Dale Dugas is one of his Representives in Boston he also teaches Iron Palm / Body. Dale only has good things to say about Master Painter! If you like I can get Dales email or pass on any questions to Dale for you about his teacher? regards Spirit Ape

What do you consider a system of Magik/witch craft? Im looking for an authentic magic system, since I see Qi Kung and meditation (inner alchemy) magic I like to see any european type magic or energy work that truly works. The Ancient Egyptian mystery schools talk of it so what is magic in your understanding? I see Kaballah is like magic art or am I wrong, chaos magic, etc? Anyone got any magic systems that differ from high level chi kung and inner alchemy of asian system?\ Ape

Does anyone know if Bardon did sun and moon gazing and what his method of those was? regards Ape

Hello All, Guys and Gals, I just read over some of the Bardon books and found stuff that has rocked my world in my arts cause what he says is also in my methods but he explains it much better and now its opened up a few new doors in my research and journey of Qi. Thankyou for the people mentioning Bardons work, I cant wait to get sometime to sit down and read all his work I find it very interesting and gives me a feeling of hope or I feel im on the right path in my chosen systems. Peace be with all of you friends.... Spirit Ape Garry Bagua Kid, Thanks for asking, I had it on hold for reasons but will be getting things started up for production very soon, lots of new information from Bardons work that is in my art But i want to research a few things befofe I let out the DVD's. The wait will be much better cause I now see things a little clearer on a few things I couldnt quite explain. I'll be letting you know when its close brother! Peace be with you! Spirit Ape Doo Wai has explained many things to me regarding his arts methods but the books of bardon talks of it in a better light for me to understand. I believe things are now possible for my higher level!!! Thanks everyone ive hit a jackpot I cant explain it yet but will later... Spirit Ape

Very cool, im downloading Bardons stuff now thanks for the heads up!!!

Thanks for all the replies everyone, I think that what im doing with my own arts is Magic all Qi Kung is magic as you are playing with Qi, cultivating it, releasing it, moving it etc. Daoist also are into magic hs anyone bought any of the Daoist Magic books from Dr Johnson, Would be interesting to know what his stuff is about? Spirit Ape