Spirit Ape

Thanks everyone, I was watching the Lost Gospels you can find it on youtube and its very much Taoist cultivation but done / spoke differently but you can see its all the same. Is there any books of him in the east learning like real hardcore evidence type books on him in Tibet etc? regards Ape

Hahaha Awesome indeed thankyou! Its not what I probably ment in my question Ill think of a way to say it better in religious sense - hells, heavens, ghost, spirits, how it deals with things, and situations. Ill think of something better later.... Ape

Mal, Being Fat and unhealthy isnt good and especially in Kung Fu, fat kung fu Masters get laughed at because it shows they have not even mastered there own mind to concour food let alone there brain for cultiavtion! I just think that looking in shape by training your kung fu correctly and following the proper eating and drinking is much better then being fat and saying ok guys you do 100 of these ill watch you cause im out of shape. Bruce and Cly man might look impressive but how long could they last against another FIT KUNG Fu teacher equally skilled? Ape

Spectrum, You are a funny guys!!! What do you study or learn? Your free style movement clip is that what you call internal movement? My issue is that there weight shows they have no Mind control which means they eat sh!t, meaning there Chi isnt much better. Fighting wise I really dont give a rats a$$ but i guarentee that they are not that good after seeing there demo's sorry if that bothers you?! Anyway if you want to follow Fat internal teachers hoping to learn health and longevity that is totally up to you but my last words is they have no self control of there mind if they cannot lose the weight and look after themselve how the hell they gonna teach others that? BJ Penn is a friggin unreal fighter and a warrior heart he would beat these guys even in there prime! be well Ape

VORTEX, You da man,,,,,,That is why I dont believe in any of these clips with push hands and bouncing people away saying this is REAL INTERNAL! No disrespect to those guys they are good at there push hands but that is not real fighting, boxers are to me more internal then any martial artist because they have mastered fitness and breathing, power, stamina, to last many many rounds put bruce or clyman in a ring guarenteed to be knocked the f@ck out within 20 seconds. Remember these people called masters sifu are also the same level as a pro fighter as they have done there time in developing there art/skills. Now, Internal kung fu forms are absolutely awesome and great for healing and moving the chi around, but you have to then train the Gong (hard) side which is bags, fitness, strength to apply it all, not just push hands and playing games. Cheers Ape

Why do the good old taiji masters die so young? Just cause in the taiji classic it doesnt say to run or do weights doesnt mean you dont. Chen style uses heavy stone and iron balls just like my art does for internal power, long heavy poles to bring forth Jing/Ging, rolling heavy bars of bambo or iron on the forearms, sand bags these are also found in Wudang, shaolin its part of physcial development so you have muscle force with Internal cultivation. Taiji form is soft must be balanced with what? Yin Yang, look I guarentee many Taiji people will love this debate about muscle building with internal arts but its because its been lost and or left out cause some idiot teacher didnt want to do it and stuck to form cause that is much easier on the body who knows if what you will develop with physcial exercise and taiji form together. I bet you a better healthier life then being FAT ASS taiji practitioner. I work in E.D and see overweight young people losing limbs to diabeties and the like all because they are FAT and unhealthy you cannot say that these FAT TAIJI or internal masters to you are a vision of health? Come on use your logic!!! Ape

There is knowledge and there is self respect and im sorry those fat bastards have lost there self respect and live of suckers (students) saying they have Qi! Strong body = strong mind = strong Qi that is my motto....

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=illu...l=en&emb=0# Check out the flying saucer thing near the end of the clip!!!

Mal, This is the thing Qi Kung and meditation to me doesnt truly extend your life it cultivates Qi for the next life as you can see a lot of cultures dont even do kung fu/qi kung and live longer them alot of Qi Kung REAL cultivators there is no guarentee in Qi Kung or Kung Fu. So at the end of the day our practice is to make us feel good during the time we are doing it. Where it takes us during the movements the whole experience! Some people eat really good and still die young.....what the f@ck we to do hahahahah!! Just live now and enjoy all we have in the NOW! Ape

Clyman is FAT, Bruce is FAT, these guys have students how, when they cant even look after there health and teaching people how to look after themselves? Ironic of what!!! hahaha I call him FAT BASTARD!

Spectrum Do you think internal arts shouldnt train weights or any strength training or just rely on Chi and less muscle force? Ape

But you have styles like Mo Pai that focus alot on dan tian and mixing yin into the Yang combining it! Maybe most Daoist Dan Tian information as what has been given is the same as most arts Dan Tian methods I know that is very basic method even in my Daoist Art. Higher level Dan Tian work may have been kept secret to such a degree that only arts like Mo Pai and Thunder Path understands the Dan Tian workings higher? Uisng Mo Pai and thunder path as an example as most people read about it!!!! Ape

FBI /CIA took all images and video footage of the pentagon from hotels near by and released 4 frame or something of the explosion and there was NO 747 crashing into the building at all. INSIDE JOB!!

There is also Sun Gazing method look up HRM Method of sun gazing he has gone without food for 400 or more days just drinking water.

His 3 clip he rubs the sternum of course you gonna get a reaction, let me Fung Ngn Choi his ribs I bet he would bounce back in pain. He is very arrogant indeed!!! Just another FAT QI KUNG and TAIJI teacher with no self respect or control of food intake and he is teaching people? Oh sorry, that is CHI KUNG spelt C H I K U N G lmfao!!!!

Hahahah thats 30 seconds more then me!!! The thing is he charges a 2%@$5 fortune for courses check out his other clips he is totally a wanker... Ape

Look I think there is some cover ups will the Truth be told, who knows! Yes sorry it was accept my bad....

Tao81, Except that your Gov did this and move on!!!

I agree with top fan well said man!!

Mal, The secrets to everything is about breathing especially in martial arts, fitness, strength, magic, the breath is the secret to all. Ape

Depending on the exercise will depend on the breathing skills! There is intent and no intent with breathing and both have important meanings and understanding of Qi development.

Stop giving advice to people let them find there own paths especially when most of you arguing havent even truly cultivated anything! POPCORN TIME!!!

Thanks alot for sharing that was great....