Spirit Ape

Drew, I can do the air out the corners of the eyes but not to put out candles but when i blow my nose i feel the air coming out, sometimes not all the time. Maybe when my sinuses are blocked or im getting a cold, hmm maybe this is a way of releasing pressure inside? Thoughts?

Lao Tzu taught meditation and chi kung as well other healing practices! One needs to also stay healthy so they can stay on the path to get to the next level whatever that maybe.....

Thanks for the breakdowns Chris, level 3 meditation you mention Max added the hand movements did this include the mudras cause i actually dont mind mudras? Also is the level 3 meditation on waterfall or just plain emptiness? I wasnt aware that Jenny does transmission for this type of chi kung or does she have a transmission for her other practices or all? Also is it similar to Max's transmission how he does it or completely different! Im hoping to make it to Jennys if not ill have to try and make it another time or when Max passes through to understand it more. Thanks for your honest reply Ape

I think most people that think they are Taoist think that the only type of arts are soft internal or meditative systems. So he is jumping the gun when saying your art is shaoli,! LOL even shaolin use yinyang, 5 element principles etc from Taoism. Hmm makes me think if i will buy his Nei Gung book when its released now!!! Thanks for sharing...

Talking martial arts then figting people in comp or street to test your fears, if its about cultivation or emotions then stillness also horse stances!

I agree do with out knowing is also pointless! Its all good i think kunlun 1,2,3 or jennys art is a very good healing art and can do some interesting things. Its great that its out there....

Yes, there is no guarentees in anything Mal, still would be nice to understand what Jenny taught Max and see what Max is teaching out purely as hers or his own spin of it. Would also like to know why Max added a transmission and red phoenix or he didnt feel Jennys system had enough juice? Ya know what i mean? Cam, Knowing what that theory is could also make you understand what is also happening with you and whatever happens to you during or after practice. Maybe Jenny has complete different theories to max that could unlock more hidden internal workings. cheers Ape

Minding your own business and being an adult is not necessarily "normal", unfortunately hahaha hmmm but we all want to return back to a child in Taoism! lol

Well as in the movements and visualization exercises is what i mean!

To me "Direct experience " is to learn the complete system and then find my enlightenment through practice. To help people that are practicing the same system and have a inner working of what and how it all works. You dont go and learn Taiji off a person that has no idea of the principles and theories behind there movements do you, i hope not?! One must understand what its all about before trying this art you dont know what the inventor was trying to achieve or be understood with this art Max is teaching. No one know what spin Max has put on it himself apart what he has told you. How long did he learn this from Jenny, over how many months, yrs etc? Is it easy enough to buy his book and learn all 3 as he has given out so generously or do you need to learn it from a teacher if in that case a teacher why create a book? These are questions that come up in my mind if i was to learn Spontaneous Qi Kung. Ape

I am hoping to get to the seminar in Canada but ill see if not i hope alot of TTB goes and supports her system as well Max's but i dont think she will draw in a bigger crowd then Max as he has made a huge name off Kunlun and people will want to feel a transmission or expect to be or seen people be thrown around. I do think that Jennys seminar by the sounds breakdown what you will feel and also how it heals the body according to the elements. This is why i think its better to have her theories of knowing what the hell is happening and what to know when something arises from it. I dont know if Max breaksdown all of this but so far no one of the Kunluners know what type of Qi it is or isnt. When Jenny will be sharing all this! That is my humble opinion! Ape

I am too! I work in mental health!!!!

5elements, He isnt much of a Taoist if he saw all these things happening to you and never wanted to help you!? You showed Tao Ga set? If so what ive seen of Andy Lums Tao Gar forms theyare like southern kung fu a mixture of CLF, Hung Gar, choy, Bak Mei with its own distinct flavour of course. They are nice and interesting forms also! I have his medical chi kung books and what is in them are found in any decent internal kung fu system ( the movements i mean) i do think he has heaps of knowledge from his studies of TCM and his books are easy reading. Ape

Just like to mention that i have nothing against Max personally, its just my preferance to learn the complete art from Jenny then Max as Max has added his own stuff to it. I like to keep things simple and complete of its original form! Thats all!

LOL Not for nothing Cameron, this powerful practice of Kunlun really belongs to Master Jenny Lamb, Max has only added his Red Phoenix. If anyone deserves anything, its Jenny and her spontaneous Qi Kung system that has made Max well known NOW. She deserves much more credit then a mention of "kunlun sister" in his book wouldnt you agree? Im on no ones side, but i have alot more respect for Jenny then I do Max and would rather learn her system and all its theories, philosphies which she is holding a seminar very soon. Then to be caught up in the hype of max as a maoshan master turning into a golden dragon body, a transmission that he has added as well the whole kunlun history, demon cave which isnt even part of Jennys Spontaneous system. So i can see why Starjumper is now worried and is trying to "SAVE" People when in fact he is better off banging his head against a wall cause you are all happy with your practice under Max. Anyway im going now to make some popcorn and watch this Sh!t fight unfold!!!! Spirit Ape

You can program your aura or energy bubble/sheild to block out any negative energy and only let it recieve good energy!

Star, You cant change these peoples minds! SP

Umm good point MPWay!!!

Hehe no probs man, that guys teacher (Hsin Tao) lives in Australia so im told and not too far away!

Sillicon, Im saying marketing is huge tool to get people in and i have been told that Hsin Tao uses spine movements which i think is a major player in health and chi cultivation. So there is no different to spine exercises in Dao Yin or what i teach in Dragon Body system. You reading into my words i was poking fun at how marketing has to use words that connect to the human eye and mind (thoughts) thats what its about! Ape

Innitiation into the Freddy Krueger Bon Po skeleton clan! LOL You wonder why the teach uses a wheelchair and crutches and cant walk properly. Do as i SAY not as i DO!!! LMAO

Damn man, didnt realize you had so many skeletons hidden in your closet!! That was a awesome read thanks mate, hope to meet up some day. Spirit ape

The only way these days to get student in is to MARKET it like its the quick quick path, or secret system no only given to the west, demon caves, flying monks,secret transmissions, wudang, shaolin, death touch, Mo Pai, kunlun, levitations, Bon Po, jesus christ, boddhisattvas, Lao Tzu's....unfortunately this is what most people want to read from a website and then believe it in themselves and then its the best thing ever and no one can change that. I have see just a clip of Hsin Tao and it basicially has spine movements that are used in all internal arts which most important for healthy body. I dont think its any different to other arts of Dragon Body movements but the spine is a major player in opening up the energy for seated meditations later. SA

Has anyone done level 1 without Red Phoenix long enough to see and feel the differences?

Power comes from core strength, dan tian is inside the core develop exteral and internal power especially if you are a Internal kung fu teacher. Fat chi body is not true chi!