Qui-Dao

If anyone had watched the Matt Furey's China's Secret Sexual Kung Fu Love Making System, would you care to comment on it? Product link: www.chineseculturesecrets.com Thanks!

Is anyone familiar with this practice? Chinese Shamanic Tiger Qigong Laohu Gong With Master Zhongxian Wu (click the above link for the product webpage)

Right & Wrong are just believes in your own head, they are illusions.

"Can't We All Just Get Along?" by Rodney King

are laziness and procrastination the same delusion? I know I procrastinate, but am not sure if I am really lazy, may be I am afraid of something that's why I putting things off? and I know fear is a delusion, just not sure what I am afraid off, not death, not loneliness, what then? may be everything is delusion?

why either-or but not both?

Swami Kriyananda, a direct disciple of the yogi Paramahansa Yogananda, left Self Realization Fellowship and funded his own spiritual community. My feeling is that the people who run the SRF after the death of Yogonanda (who brought Kriya Yoga to the west), have turned SRF from a spiritual movement into a stiff religion not unlike Christian, very unfortunate indeed, and I am glad that at least one disciple didn't give in to that dark force and carried on the true spirit of his ancient masters. Swami Kriyananda has a set of meditation videos that he teaches Kriya Yoga himself but not using the name Kriya Yoga, you might still be able find these videos on eMule and piratebay, they are four video files, each about one hour long, converted from old VHS tapes. It's safe to practice this modified version of Kriya Yoga, you don't need the initiation, and you are learning directly (well, sort of, by watching his teachings on tape) from a direct disciple of the yogi Paramahansa Yogananda.

I was going to say the same thing, you said it better than I could. A traditional Zen training typically starts with "chop wood, carry water", and that alone could last for many many years before a student would even hear a word from the zen master (teacher). I am afraid TGA is not yet ready for a teacher yet.

I thought the subject title of this thread is "..... Facts Not Fiction Thread.", can you refrain yourself from repeating your claims that are NOT FACTS, and allow those who might have something closer to fact expressing themselves? We hear you, but give us a break would you? If you do have any facts, many of of us would to hear, so just give us the facts in this thread, and leave the fictions in other threads please.

Thanks! I had downloaded the videos and am watching them this weekend, what the guy teaches is quite different than the conventional wisdom of retaining the jing, I want to hear what other Taobums who had watched this video think about this teaching.

Thanks for your input Craig! Really appreciate it. I bought the DVD and the book a while back, when I watched the dvd the first time, I was intimidated and discouraged, I thought: no way I am going to be able to learn this on my own. Your encouragement helps me to counter my self doubts, I am going to start to read the book this weekend and see what develops. My goal is modest: learn qigong, study Tao, in hope that it would help to maintain physical health, quiet my mind, gain better balance in life, and be more harmonious with the Tao/nature. I want to pick a qigong practice to accompany me in achieving these objectives. I don't have a teacher (would love to have one but have not been able to find a good teacher yet), and I don't know what practice to take given the fact that there are so many qigong practices (forms/systems) out there.

Is it advisable for beginners to practice this qigong by learning from dvd alone without a live teacher? My only background is I have learned and practiced 8 Pieces Of Brocades qigong, but that was very elementary stuff. Thanks!

"The continent of one-thousand drums Vol1, 2 & 3", most pure shaman drums with very little other instruments, sounds or vocals, I like it pure. I sometimes mix them with "David & Steve Gordon - Sacred Spirit Drums (1998)", play two tracks at the same time, Gordons are weak in drums but has nice fill-in background flutes and other instruments, together the effect is amazing! My favorite mix: "Ubumwe" from "The continent of one-thousand drums Vol 3" with "Sunrise Ritual" from "David & Steve Gordon - Sacred Spirit Drums (1998)". You can experiment with other mixes, I found these two groups mix great together. Also like "Africa Djembe Orchestra - Drums of Goree (1993)(Orchestre Africa Djembe)" and "Djembe - Percussions D'Afrique".

Awsome! Thanks a lot!

Thanks for sharing this! Just listened to the entire cd, wonderful wonderful music! Does anyone know of any good shaman drumming only music? just pure good drumming without any of that witchcraft ritual stuff. Thanks much again!

See you all tomorrow at 2! (Citibank lobby corner of Canal & Elizabeth)

Craig, Thanks so much for the write up. In your opinion, do you think think it is feasible for a beginner to learn this system from the dvd? Do you recommend to study it under a teacher? and lastly, do you happen to know anyone who teaches this in NYC area? Thanks very much again!

If you can not see the fact that mantra is a marketer with a mission, not a Tao Bum like most of us here, then what can I say?

Looks like his business is not well-run. If he is running it himself, that's understandable, but if he hires someone to do the job, then he should fire he/her/them and get someone else to run the business. I wouldn't judge him or his systems based on this instance though, I will always give people benefits of doubt. If that indeed represents his honesty (or lack of it) and character, then I will stay away from him, but it sounds like this may be just a small unfortunate hiccup on his part, not necessary a representation of his character. I used to get annoyed by small annoying stuff like this, but I don't pay attention to them any more, life is too short and we have so many better things to occupy our limited resources in this life time.

I don't subscribe to NLP stuff, but to answer your question, yes, people do speak out their true intentions unconsciously, what holds important in their believes will always come out whether they like it or not. Like I said from the beginning, Mantra is a marketer and he is doing his job, that's a good thing. There are two categories of information people can get here: free and commercial, it's impossible to say which is "true-er" or "better", but I believe if we can help people to see if they are dealing with commercial information and that there is no guarantee that what they paid for is real, truthful, authentic, effective, just as the free information, so that they can make their own informed decisions, we will be doing them a good service. I have to repeat myself: I don't know anything about Max nor Kunlun and I am not making any judgments about them. Just want to point out that it is a commercial product that Mantra is marketing and promoting in this forum, that's all.

Thanks a lot for the information!

Here we can see you are speaking your true language unconsciously, because who we are will always come out unconsciously in what we say and do. True Tao master would careless about money and profits, of course he knows how much power he possesses and if he wants he can use that power to get whatever he wants in this physical plane from people who are weaker than him, but true masters never do that, they know that power does not belong to them and if misused for selfish purpose the power becomes impure and that will be the beginning of the end of the power. We see in the west over and over again many "gurus" from all traditions and religions misused their power and fell to their graves, I don't need to name the names. so, it's a good thing that you are not doing what these people did with the power that Max has now. Use it for the good of the people and the earth, like LaoTzu said, heaven will reward you with what money could not buy.

Have you read the book? the sub-title of the book is "Da Mo's Muscle/Tendon Changing and Marrow/Brain Washing Classics". (i.e. in Chinese, about 易筋经 and 洗髓经) This book is all about Nei Gong, i.e about the above mentioned two Nei Gong practices, it's not about Shaolin Kung Fu. Dr. Yang has many other books on Shaolin Kung Fu but this is not one of them. To say that "The book's title is confusing and it is for marketing purpose than telling readers anything real" is really not fair, especially since you have not even read the book. Again, this is a book of translation and commentary on the two Chinese Nei Gong classics, even if you can read Chinese, this book is a very good reference and study guide since without the very solid background in Nei Gong, you won't understand these original texts anyway. Only thing people should be aware is that they also need a teacher/master if they want to take on these two practices, the book is just an introduction, a reference, and a study guide.

I have nothing against Max or Mantra, just wanted to point out that Mantra's mission in the forum is MARKETING! A good salesman will not take no for an answer, will not be discouraged by any obstacles, a salesman's job is to sell you ideas and products. Mantra is a good salesman, he is just doing what a salesman supposed to do, no hats off from me. Again, this is just a neutral comment, I don't know Max know Mantra nor Kunlun practice, I am new to the forum, just observed that's what has been going on: we have a marketer, a group of hard core supporters, a group of skeptics, some swingers, and a market of more than 20,000 registered users, do the math! That's how I see it. They may have a great product for a bargain price and it could be a once in a life time deal, or not, I don't know, I am neutral.