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  1. . Maybe you should go back and ask them for some further guidance/clarification. Surely you must be in touch with some of these masters? Let me know if anyone says that the world disappears after enlightenment. BTW, Why does it bother you so much? Didn't you recently proclaim that you don't believe in rules of engagement and don't accept that ground rules be set? I don't really care to know your answer and I don't particularly care if you agree with me or not. That is your prerogative. I'll still hold compassion and love for you in my heart. It depends upon the degree of chitta shuddhi one has, imho. When one has sufficient chitta shuddhi, the meaning becomes clear. That becomes apparent in the type of questions being asked. You are referring to authority of the bhashyas and claiming that we should take these at face value. I'm saying, that different texts are meant for different levels of understanding. Like what they teach in 10th grade is different from what is taught in 12th grade, and that is different in a PhD program. I'll be honest and say that based on the type of questions and the opinions I see being held about AV by some here, the progress stopped at the level of realizing the "unrealness of the world". If they had persisted with nidhidhyasana, they would have completed the loop about the world itself being Brahman. The three aspects of knowing - That the world doesn't independently exist apart from awareness (at the beginner level of AV knowledge - The World is unreal), that the Self is none other than Brahman (Atman = Brahman) and that the world itself IS Brahman (jagat is the physical body of Brahman - Virat, Universal mind is the subtle body of Brahman - Hiranyagarbha, God is the causal body of Brahman (Ishvara)), would be complete.
  2. It's really a matter of discussion between each serious practitioner and their teacher(s). Best advise is to follow the instructions of a teacher (stotriya brahmanistha).
  3. the answer was already given but you are unable to see it. So be it. That’s your prerogative.
  4. That's okay. AV doesn't suffer any great loss because of that... Do you agree or disagree that the mirage remains despite knowing it is a mirage? Or does the mirage simply disappear once you know that its a mirage?
  5. That is abjectly inadequate. Our understanding deepens with maturity (of practice) and as we proceed, the same text might mean completely different things depending on that (maturity). We have to rely on teachers of the traditions to provide fine details and guidance when we have doubts. I can only say, understanding will depend on our level. The Bhashyas will mean different things to different people. Some people can't even understand it. And then later they do. There's a reason why texts like Ashtavakra Samhita, Tripura Rahasya, Yoga Vasishtha are considered specialized texts and the student needs adhikara to read them.
  6. The question is "will knowing a mirage is a mirage, remove the illusion?" Seeing the pictures of these mirages it is clear that the photographer knew that they were mirages. You and I know that they are mirages. Yet they appear to be. Similarly, for the world too...
  7. https://aty.sdsu.edu/mirages/mirintro.html Haha that is a very good question The answer is nuanced.
  8. It is a story within the main text meant to illustrate some specific points. It should not be taken beyond that imho Perhaps it IS meant to raise questions such as these as well?
  9. I used to believe that too. But that is not what it means. Talk to a brahmajnani and see what they have to say. I have asked this question to a few that I know for sure are brahmajnanis, and they all say that what "world cessation means" is just that the world does take on a dream like quality but doesn't really "disappear". If you read the Tripura Rahasya, it clearly articulates that the outcome of "enlightenment" is different depending on the sage. It is interesting to discuss this, but would require a separate thread. Sages like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Papaji, all continued to interact with the world and teach, even though they were jivanamuktas. And each had their own unique perspective on things.
  10. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is a state of cessation, where the mind is stopped. When there is no mind, there is no cognition. But the body will continue to operate. When one is pulled back, the world doesn't disappear. It is just known to be an appearance, thats all. Just so that we're clear, the text doesn't glorify these universes, but aims to demonstrate what the power of a pure and powerful mind can do. Even though such an universe seems real, and in the story, the king spends 1 day in the pocket universe while 12,000 earth years have passed, both that universe and this universe are just appearances in pure awareness.
  11. Mirage doesn't disappear when the conditions are right. You know it is a mirage, but still see it Illusion doesn't have any bonds if you know it is an illusion. What is there to escape? People seek escape because they think it is real.
  12. I know some folks who like to go to a "new world" Does the same rule apply there? Nirvikalpa Samadhi is cessation of objects. Literally stopping of the mind. So, yes, it should, in theory be possible for something like that to happen. Sex doesn't necessary require volition.
  13. It is used in Hindu traditions as well. Only typically from teacher to student (historically). The problem becomes when someone who is not meant to have the teaching yet comes across it, resulting in widespread histrionics and ego tantrums
  14. Agreed...all this is within the domain of duality itself, afaik. The OP wasn't to demonstrate powers of nonduality, but examples of how willpower of a purified mind can make seemingly incredible things appear and disappear This is all working at the level of the causal body/causal state imho. These "universes" are created in the Pashyanti mode of information (which in non dual state is parā). But that might be a separate (albeit related) topic of inquiry.
  15. Everything is an appearance, including the body and the mind. Just like a mirage in the desert doesn't disappear (when the conditions are appropriate for it to appear), only our knowledge that it is a mirage prevents us from running towards it in search of water...similarly, despite the change of outlook, the world, body or mind don't disappear. They just don't loom large like they used to.
  16. Indeed...foul elicits disgust. Because, in order to break a spell, sometimes disgust is needed. Speaking from personal experience, it works across the spectrum for obsessions on various things. Once the spell is broken, then dispassion can arise.
  17. Beautifully articulated!
  18. Indeed. See my answer below. It is meant to elicit dispassion for the body, given that most of us live constantly mesmerized by the body and its ability to produce pleasure and experience pain. We have to see the right context, ie meant for someone who is obsessed with the body (the situation is probably worse now than ever before in the history of the world).
  19. http://sivanandaonline.org/public_html/?cmd=displaysection&section_id=724

  20. Theory of creation in Vedanta

    dwai replied to dwai's topic in Hindu Discussion

    What do you think?

  21. Theory of creation in Vedanta

    dwai replied to dwai's topic in Hindu Discussion

    Imho, potential means all possibiiities that can manifest. Not because something is lacking but from the POV of manifested and unmanifested. Or per David Bohm - unfolded and enfolded existence

  22. Theory of creation in Vedanta

    dwai replied to dwai's topic in Hindu Discussion

    Indeed

  23. Theory of creation in Vedanta

    dwai replied to dwai's topic in Hindu Discussion

    No thing means "not an object" imho.
  24. What’s a poopy? 👀
  25. Not everything can be subjective Sometimes we have to be objective with facts...