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Excellent. I am glad you found this. Two notes: 1. The capital letters are ChiDragon's own 2. This post is about two months old--now he is "teaching" on the topic. Finally, no, not all opinions are valid. "In my opinion putting ice cream in your gas tank will yield better mileage." Hyperbole? No more than thinking ChiDragon can become versed in Quanzhen teachings via copy and paste in two months is hyperbole. Aspirants standing at the starts of their paths do well to be wary of this deeply deluded fellow. Desperation for attention and willingness to pretend is one of the deadly combinations responsible for the fact that, as one of my close teachers has said, "the spiritual path is littered on both sides with lost souls." 慎.

Public service announcement for newbies who might be fooled by his false professorly airs: ChiDragon's hackneyed ideas do not represent Daoism in general. They also do not represent Quanzhen teachings in specific. The works of Quanzhen Daoism's founder Wang Chongyang's teacher directly reference the afterlife. Subsequent writings in the tradition naturally do, as well. In addition to the writings being this way, the oral tradition and praxis of Quanzhen Daoism as well as many other branches, if not all or nearly all of them in Daoism, include teachings and practices that directly relate to what those of us who have not yet transcended distinguishing birth and death would call the afterlife. ChiDragon has to be corrected here, again and again. He appears to be inveterately attached to his fantasy, which is that he has actually studied these things. Why he is permitted to troll here and boldly lie is beyond me. Freedom of speech is important, but he is disrupting other people's ability to learn. That behavior befouls this board. The airing of unfounded opinion is as useful as posting photos of that part of the anatomy to which opinions are so often likened. I personally am tired of seeing this guy air his proverbial anus everywhere, even if he does try so hard to pucker it into a staid, scholarly expression and nicknamed it "fact." I point out that the same ChiDragon who provides a link to his copy-paste fest regarding xing and ming above, had within days of starting that thread boldly declared that he had never seen the terms xing and ming in any Daoist texts. That amounts to a confession of never actually having studied Daoism. Saying "there is no afterlife in Daoism" is a similar confession. Deci Belle is too kind in calling this guy a literalist. A literalist has at least exposed himself to the literature. In the case of a man as deeply and recalcitrantly dishonest as ChiDragon, I am not even sure which term fits. Regarding the OP's question, Deci Belle's answer seems excellent, as her talk of "real earth" is a direct reference to an important key to Daoist practice which can be found in the primary texts if you care to read them. I wish I understood it well enough to elaborate--alas, my knowledge is basically just intellectual.

You guys' case studies are continually some of the most fascinating and inspiring material on this site. Many thanks for the posts.

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Posted in memory of a master. http://www.corespirituality.com/journals/taoist.html The Taoist Conception of God Thomas James Hickey, Ph.D. Preface Master Hsuan Yuan of the North Pole Golden Temple and Temple of Transcendental Wisdom in New York City requested that I write a commentary on a section of his book entitled The Great Heavenly Virtue: The Wondrous Meaning of the Heavenly Father Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen in order to show that there is indeed a Taoist God who created the universe. The section I am commenting upon and elaborating is "Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen's Explanation, views among folk beliefs." This book and other works of Master Hsuan Yuan are published by the North Pole Gold Temple and Temple of Transcendental Wisdom, and they are available from the American Buddhist and Taoist Association, 81 Bowery, Third Floor, New York, New York 10002. Master Hsuan Yuan is the 14th Ancestral Founder of the Taoist Lumen Holistic Lineage. He has mastered not only the intellectual teachings of the traditional Taoist schools but also the practice of Taoist meditation and the inner alchemy of the Tan Ting School that lead to creation of the Golden Pill that bestows enlightenment and supernatural powers. Furthermore, he is firmly established in perfect virtue and has devoted his life to bringing enlightenment to the world and alleviating the sufferings of others. Master Hsuan Yuan's teacher is the Celestial Worthy of the Original Beginning (Yuan Shih T'ien Tsun) and his grand teacher is the Heavenly Father, who is the Supreme Person (Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen) and Highest Lord of the Universe (Hsuan Hsuan Shang Ti). Yuan Shih T'ien bestowed the title of Brilliant Teacher on Master Hsuan Yuan in 1970, and he was then given the mission of carrying out the Grand Universal Salvation (Shou Yuan) by Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen in 1990. Under the direction of Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen, Master Hsuan Yuan has been transmitting the Heavenly Message to all the world's people, especially in The Great Heavenly Virtue: The Wondrous Meaning of the Heavenly Father Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen — Disclosure of the True Secrets of the Heavenly Realm. Master Hsuan Yuan has requested that I assist in this project in some small way by writing a commentary on a section of this book, having to do with Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen and the popular conception of God. I am deeply honored by the confidence that Master Hsuan Yuan has placed in me. While my own background is not primarily in Taoism and I do not know Chinese, I do have certain qualifications that may be useful in this task. On one hand, I hold a doctorate in philosophy from Georgetown University, and have taught philosophy at the university level. My ancestral background is Christian, and I was consecrated a bishop in apostolic succession in an independent Catholic communion in 1993. Therefore, I am quite familiar with Western thought and spirituality. On the other hand, I was attracted to Oriental culture, philosophy and spirituality from an early age. I have been actively involved in Eastern spirituality for over thirty years and have studied most traditions in some detail. Moreover, I was initiated into Vedic spirituality under the auspices of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and have been a teacher in the Shankaracharya tradition since 1976. Although I have been pursuing the Tao specifically through Taoism since 1969, I owe any real knowledge of Tao that I have gained through Taoism to the grace of Master Hsuan Yuan. In addition to being acquainted with Taoist, Vedic and Christian mystical spirituality, I have also been granted insight into Qabalistic, Sufi and Buddhist spirituality. As a result, I came to know something of most philosophical, religious, and spiritual traditions of the world. This endeavor led me to the conclusion that wisdom traditions are expressions of a primordial spirituality. The perennial wisdom about this core spirituality is found in the testimony of mystics and the teaching of masters across time the world over. Accordingly, perennial wisdom about core spirituality can be viewed as the ancient religion of humankind, and all religions and spiritual traditoins as different expressions of it. In the words of Rig Veda 1.164.46, “Truth is one; the wise speak of it differently.” I have long sought to discover the Absolute in philosophy and the mystical experience of nonduality that underlies religion and spirituality so that I might comprehend both conceptually and experientially the universal teaching at the basis of perennial wisdom. My work with the Core Spirituality Institute involves illuminating the transcendental unity underlying the cultural diversity of all religions and wisdom traditions, as well as fostering unity among all religions while celebrating their diverse heritages. To this end I have written several books and courses about the universal teaching of mystical spirituality and how it is the basis of philosophy and religion. I offer this work to the Most High, however one may conceive of Ultimate Reality, in the hope that it may assist in bringing greater enlightenment to all beings and peace to the world. I bow in gratitude to all my teachers and to the wisdom traditions they represent. I There is a pervasive misunderstanding in the West about Eastern conceptions of God, be they Taoist, Buddhist or Vedic. The religions stemming from the Near East, namely Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are in general agreement concerning the concept of God. This concept has come to be known as monotheism, and proponents of these religions have set this forth by as the ideal. Because modern scholarship began in the West when the West was dominated by the Christian worldview, this concept of God became the standard against which other religions were compared and usually found wanting. As a consequence, Hinduism came to be viewed as basically pantheistic and polytheistic, Buddhism as atheistic, and Taoism as pantheistic and shamanistic. Even "sophisticated" Indian and Oriental people educated in the Western style have come to adopt such views, looking down on their religious heritage as na晇e or primitive. On the other hand, scholars paid much more positive attention to the philosophical dimension of the ancient Eastern traditions, whose spirituality many Westerners found inspiring but did not deem to be essentially religious (read "superstitious"). They often pictured Indian and Oriental philosophical thought as separate from the religious aspects of the Eastern spiritual traditions, considering these religious aspects primitive and irrelevant. In fact, a good number of Westerners who are familiar with philosophical Taoism know little about religious Taoism. A key idea that unites the philosophical and religious aspects of Eastern traditions is that of enlightenment. From the philosophical perspective, enlightenment is the unfolding of the full potential of human nature, while from the religious perspective it is liberation from limitation, especially suffering. In the philosophical view, enlightenment involves the discovery of metaphysical truth both experientially and conceptually. In the religious view, liberation from limitation is through divine union. Both of these conceptions are essentially mystical, in that they involve extraordinary states of awareness arrived at through spiritual practice. Although mysticism was known in the West, it had been suppressed by mainstream religion, which often persecuted mystical tendencies as heretical. In addition, Western philosophy had taken a more intellectual tack that eventually led to the rise of the scientific worldview. But the notion of enlightenment, which was at first derided as "navel-gazing," ultimately found popularity in the West, and a growing number of Westerners now practice Eastern spiritual disciplines. Perhaps the idea of enlightenment was especially fascinating to Westerners because it had been all but banished from Western religious and philosophical thought. Therefore, it was an exciting new concept in the West, when the West was itself leaving behind the religious strictures which had bound its culture for centuries. Now that interest in spiritual enlightenment is increasing in the West, a great deal of confusion and misinformation about it is also arising. Many are mistaken in thinking that enlightenment is simply an attitude, and it can be gained without having to apply oneself earnestly to spiritual practice. Moreover, an idea has arisen that one can have true spirituality without having to be bothered with the inconvenience of a God, religious practice, or morality. "Enlightenment" alone is thought to be enough, although most of those who think this also have a fanciful notion of what enlightenment is. II As a result of this sort of thinking, there is a tendency today to take philosophical Taoism (tao chia) and Buddhism, as well as Vedanta, out of their context in a holistic wisdom tradition and to see them as obviating the religious dimension of the traditions which bore them. Even many Taoists hold that philosophical Taoism (tao chia) has no intrinsic connection to religious Taoism (tao chiao). This tendency to separate Absolute from God is unfortunate because it misrepresents Eastern spirituality and religion. Many Western-minded people consider Taoism to be a form of Eastern spirituality that requires little and promises much. Such people believe that just by acting "naturally and spontaneously" some sort of mystical state will ensue. Their understanding of Taoism is unfortunately naive, but this misconception has become prevalent. Hopefully, the investigation being undertaken here will be useful in correcting some of these erroneous views. This task of correction is particularly important because these erroneous views are being exported from the West to the countries from which these religions stem, and the people of these countries, especially the youth, are failing to appreciate their religious heritage and even are encouraged to devalue it. In order for Western educated people to comprehend the Eastern conception of God, they must realize that their own popular conception of God is as credulous as those popular conceptions of God they criticize in others. To many Westerners ritualistic Hinduism seems to be grossly polytheistic and Buddhism atheistic, while religious Taoism appears to be superstitious. No doubt, many naive practitioners of these religions are indeed credulous of ill-informed. However, the popular concept of God many in the West hold, if not most, is no less naive. Knowledge is limited by the mode of knowing of the knower. If one who knows is limited, then that person's knowledge will also be limited. As a result, the unenlightened mistake the body/mind for what they are. Therefore, they see themselves as separate from others and from everything in the phenomenal world. For such people, the idea of God is characterized by separation. Not having realized any connection to the ultimate reality, the unenlightened project their own wishes and imagination to form a conception of "Heaven." This conception, irrespective of the culture in which it arises, is insufficient to bridge the gap between that which is limited and unlimited. Therefore, all popular conceptions of God are bound to be lacking. Human beings tend to project their own image onto Heaven. The Bible says that God created humanity in his own image, but the fact is that human beings create their ideas about God in their own likeness. The popular conception of God is anthropomorphic, whereas the sages report that God's nature is a great mystery that is only penetrated through spiritual union. No idea of God can even approximate the reality because the ordinary human mind is so far removed from it. The infinite cannot be compressed into the finite. To appreciate the reality of the divine, the finite must expand to the infinite, which is the task of mystical spirituality. III In order to correct the erroneous views that have grown up concerning Eastern conceptions of God, it is necessary to appreciate somewhat the dynamics of spirituality and religion. There are two dimensions of religion, namely, the exoteric and the esoteric. The exoteric aspect of a religion, which is seated in the mythos and ethos of a culture, presents a philosophical world view through a scriptural mythology and a doctrine based on it, a ritualistic praxis, and a moral code. The spiritual purpose of these is to foster remembrance of the noumenal or metaphysically real, which both underlies the phenomenal or apparent as its ground and also transcends it as its source. However, myths, rites and conventions also bind a culture together through tradition. The people of any culture generally begin at the exoteric stage, being educated into the traditions of their religion, for example, without being acquainted with their inner, spiritual meaning. However, the sages seeded these traditions with symbols, so that people might be drawn toward the inner meaning as they grow in wisdom and virtue. This inner meaning, which is the spiritual dimension, is the esoteric aspect of religion and culture. As one awakens to the numinous through spiritual practice, one is led into the esoteric appreciation of religion. Every religion has a mystical dimension, often with realized masters who preserve and transmit the mystical teaching. The esoteric aspect does not obviate the exoteric, but rather the esoteric complements and completes the exoteric. The enlightened transcend the mythological and symbolic aspect of scripture by discovering that scripture is a road map of inner experience, a map that is made up of the reports of travelers who have traversed the Way themselves. In its mature form, each religion is founded upon and grounded in a mystical spirituality that leads to enlightenment, which is called "returning to the origin" in the Eastern metaphor and "entering the kingdom" by Jesus Christ. Similarly, the enlightened transcend the need for conventional morality because they spontaneously do what is right, in the sense of being life-supporting and evolutionary. They do this on the basis of their very being, which is one reason they are called "holy" (whole). And for the realized, ritual is no longer so much a supplication as it is a formula for performing the most exalted form of activity — activity which unites Heaven, Humanity and Earth, and brings blessings upon all. IV The popular idea of God held by the masses in every culture is strongly influenced by the scriptures of their religion. Most people do not understand them in the spirit in which they were given, however — for example, taking literally what is meant symbolically. Since these scriptures contain the pronouncements of enlightened seers, they are connected to noumenal reality, and the people of that culture can derive some element of truth from them. Hence, popular conceptions of God are not totally without merit. They can be a steppingstone to things higher if properly heeded. For instance, exoteric religious practices purify the soul so that it can gain the subtlety required for esoteric appreciation and practice. A fundamental element in every popular conception of God (Heaven) that has been implanted by scripture is that God is transcendental to ordinary human experience. Another element is that God is omniscient and omnipotent. Therefore, God is regarded as a mystery. However, God (or Heaven) is also considered to be omnipresent. If God were not omnipresent, then He would be limited in being. But if God is omnipresent, then God must be immanent. And if God is within, perhaps Heaven could be discovered here on Earth. This suggestion is the doorway to mystical spirituality found in every religion and wisdom tradition. Taoism is no different. There is a conception of God in Taoism, just as there is in every religion. God is called the Supreme Person (shang jen) and the Highest Lord (shang ti). These same appellations and titles are bestowed upon God in virtually every religion. For instance, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, all concur that God is the Supreme Being and Heavenly Ruler. The popular conception of God (Heaven) tends to be highly anthropomorphic. But from the perspective of mystical spirituality, there is one Supreme Reality that is the transcendent source, the immanent ground and the all-inclusive totality of being. This One is not only self-sufficient, unconditioned being but also self-aware existence. Mystical spirituality is panentheistic. Panentheism is monistic, yet not pantheistic. Pantheism holds that God is identical with the Universe. Panentheism is the doctrine that the Supreme is both transcendent and immanent. That is to say, the supreme is beyond phenomena as their source, yet it is also in phenomena (which are conditional) as their unconditioned ground. From this mystical perspective, the Taoist's Tao, the Advaitin's Brahman, the Buddhist's Tathata, the Sufi's Allah, the Kabbalist's YHVH Echad, and Meister Eckhart's Gottheit are essentially synonymous in that they all refer to the sole reality. They all symbolize the One, the source of existence, name and form, as an all-inclusive singularity that is both immanent as the ground of being and transcendent as the source of being. V Mystics report that there are two dimensions of this ultimate reality — the impersonal and the personal. Tao, Brahman, Tathata and Gottheit are impersonal Absolute. Shang Ti, Isvara and God (YHVH, Allah) are personal deity, though formless. The impersonal aspect of the Absolute is reachable through mystical practice. Those who attain to the level of holistic awareness report that it is ineffable. In the words of the Tao Teh Ching, "Those who know do not say; those who say do not know." It is the Great Mystery (which is why Taoism calls God Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen and Hsuan Hsuan Shang Ti, hsuan meaning mystery and hsuan hsuan meaning greatly mysterious). Yet, the seers affirm that this mystery reveals itself in a pure heart. However, most people remain unaware even of the conception of this esoteric dimension, let alone have any real knowledge of it. The personal aspect of the ultimate is the object of religious belief and devotion. Virtually all religions have a conception of the Supreme. In Hinduism, God is called Bhagavan (the Exalted One), Isvara (Lord), Parameshvara (Supreme or Transcendental Lord), and Paramatma (Supreme Self). Christianity and Islam follow Judaism in addressing the personal supreme as God Most High (El Elyon), Lord (Adonai) and Heavenly Ruler (YHVH Sabaoth, Psalm 24). In Taoism, the personal aspect of the supreme is called Supreme Person (shang jen) and Supreme Lord (shang ti), shang meaning highest or uppermost. Vedanta, especially, emphasizes that while there is only one Totality (Brahman), wholeness has two aspects — wholeness without qualities (nirguna brahman) and wholeness with qualities (saguna brahman). The former is the impersonal and the latter personal. From the perspective of a seer, these are two levels of possible transcendental "direct acquaintance" (vidya, jnana). The literature of mysticism is replete with actual accounts or veiled references to acquaintance with both the impersonal and the personal aspects of the Supreme. These accounts and references are impossible to understand in their fullness at the level of ordinary awareness, which functions on the basis of mind, not holistic awareness. Therefore, a mythology grows up around them, which reflects not the holistic dimension of the scriptures but only a very limited grasp of this dimension. However, when mystical spirituality dawns, one comes to appreciate the scriptures oneself not only in terms of intellectual understanding but also with reference to the level of awareness of the seers who recorded them. VI The ordinary person's appreciation of the scriptures of any religion is a mixture of superstition, naive belief, and intellectual speculation, along with a germ of the truth. The germ of the truth in these popular conceptions of God (Heaven) is that there is a personal aspect of supreme reality. Sages, prophets, mystics and seers testify to being directly acquainted with this reality as "presence" in their elevated experience. The popular conception of God (Heaven) is different in different times and places not because the Supreme is different, for it is an eternal reality which underlies all possible levels of phenomenal experience, as well as of human thought and emotion. The difference is accounted for on the basis of differences in culture and environment. It is now fashionable in our scientific age to denigrate so-called primitive ways of thinking as superstitious, but if history is any indication, the science of today will become tomorrow's credulity. If there is any enduring aspect to the ordinary understanding of the ultimate, it is provided by the seers who are in touch with the reality. Their reports concerning the ultimate that are available in the world's scriptures can touch the heart of anyone at anytime, because the truth they express resides in the heart of everyone. The purpose of every outer teacher and teaching is to awaken one's Inner Teacher. Human life is an alternation of pleasure and pain, happiness and suffering. Everyone desires happiness and pursues pleasure, and at the same time everyone fears suffering and avoids pain. Ordinary people wonder why there is suffering and how God can permit it. Some even use the existence of suffering to call the very conception of the Supreme into question. They argue, for example, that God is said to be both all-good and all-powerful, but suffering shows that he cannot be both. The existence of suffering seems to imply a dilemma. Either the Creator could not create a Universe in which suffering does not exist, in which case he is not all-powerful, or if he could and did not, then he is not all-good. This seemingly inexorable logic has undermined the faith of many in the popular conception of God. However, what this logic proves is not that God is deficient, but rather that the popular conception of God is inadequate. The testimony of one who knows, namely, the sage, is necessary to set the matter straight, namely, that everything is always perfect in relation to its purpose, which is that the abiding fulfillment that only enlightenment affords, not psychological happiness, which is transitory and ephemeral. That this enormous reality is beyond ordinary human perception, conception and imagination is not surprising. Yet, many erroneously conclude that what is beyond their comprehension does not exist and cannot be true. Sages report that suffering has the larger, spiritual purpose of turning people's attention to higher things. When things are not going well, people pray to God (Heaven) to make things better. Recalling what they have learned from their religious teaching, people turn to Heaven in trying times. This turning of attention to higher things is a remembrance of the origin. From the spiritual perspective the purpose of life is return to the origin. Hence, remembrance is an essential element of spiritual practice, and every prayer is a step in right direction. While prayer for relief is a form of remembrance, God does not grant all petitions, presumably for very good reasons. However, every time one turns one's attention to higher things, a reward is immediately received, even though it may not be the one the petitioner wishes for or expects. Heaven always knows best, whereas mortals do not. Prayers are a form of spiritual remembrance, and spiritual remembrance is its own reward. That upon which one puts attention grows stronger in one's life. When one puts attention on higher things, Heaven becomes a stronger force in one's life, and steps are taken on the spiritual journey of returning to the origin. Not recognizing this, some people complain when their petitions are not answered. Others, seeing many prayers not answered, deny that there is a God to answer them. Hence the popular conception of God is often beset with doubt and denial, alienation and separation. The existence of suffering and the lack of success in prayer are some of the biggest reasons that people doubt God's existence or loose faith in God's goodness. Lacking this faith, they fail to pursue the spiritual path (Tao) and stray from virtuous behavior (Teh). Failing in virtue, people find that they become miserable, and the world is also the worse off for it, as social problems mount. Hence, the popular conception of God needs to be bolstered by the testimony of the sages so that the people may return to the origin and be liberated from suffering. To correct misunderstandings and clear up misconceptions regarding God, Heaven sends sages among the people. The value of the sage is threefold: 1. A realized sage can interpret the scriptures correctly, illuminating their inner message on the basis of spiritual insight. Since the Taoist scriptures are recorded in extremely metaphorical terms that are understandable only to those who have the requisite inner experience to penetrate the metaphors, these scriptures are essentially teaching manuals for the use of sages who have realized Tao. Hence, it is generally not useful or even realistic to attempt to comprehend them without the guidance of a realized master. The erroneous views of Taoism that prevail are largely the result of the uninitiated misinterpreting its cryptic symbols and metaphors. 2.A realized sage can directly transmit the universal teaching experientially and establish others on the eternal, integral Way. The realized master can initiate by directly transmitting knowledge. This awakens the essence of wholeness in one who is properly prepared to receive the stroke of knowledge, and it opens the way for fruitful spiritual practice. 3.A realized sage can communicate with Heaven and even perform supernormal deeds. In the ordinary consciousness there is a barrier between Heaven and Man. This barrier ceases to exist for the realized sage. Seers speak authoritatively for Heaven, and so the sages who have realized the Way (Tao) have immense value for the world. The sages, seers and prophets are Heaven's voice, as it were, for Heaven does not speak otherwise in human languages. Reminiscent of Native American spirituality, which calls the Supreme "the Great Mystery," Taoism uses hsuan hsuan to indicate that the supreme level is mysterious, that is, that it transcends ordinary human experience. Taoism is in agreement on this point with the other religions that conceive of God as transcendent. The realized sage is one who has transcended the limitations of individuality and of ordinary experience. The true sage is one to whom the great mystery has revealed itself through direct acquaintance (gnosis). The Taoist sage (hsien), the Vedic seer (rishi), the Buddhist adept (arhat, lohan), the Hebrew prophet (nabi) and master (tzaddik), the Christian mystic, and the transformed Sufi (abdal) are not different in this regard. While each of these terms has acquired its own fantastical connotations in the popular mind, their true spiritual meaning expresses supreme realization, hence, is essentially the same. The Taoist realization is not different from the Yogic realization, or the Buddhist realization, or the Sufi realization, or the Jewish or Christian mystical realization — or spiritual realization manifesting itself in any other cultural garb. There is one origin. What those who return to the origin discover there is eternally the same, even though it manifests itself in endless variety. VII Showers of the Way bring the one eternal message of Heaven to human beings, namely, "Know thyself." These Way showers do not come to found religions, but rather to show the Way. Later, their message is organized and represented in terms of a language and culture, and a traditional religion is formed. Then, the temptation arises to compare these various religions on the basis of their differences, overlooking the transcendental unity which underlies them. Religious Taoism (tao chiao), for example, has been represented as a holdover of primitive animism that is still close to its shamanistic roots. In contrast, the monotheistic religions are often represented as being more "advanced" in the sense of being more intelligent, reasonable, and philosophically justifiable. This type of criticism misses the point entirely by mistaking the sociology and philosophy of religion, an intellectual exercise, for its reality. This reality is a mystical state of being verifiable by anyone with the requisite ability to know it directly. The reality is known fully only to the sages, and others easily mistake poetic metaphors pointing to it for literal descriptions of it, so confusion abounds in the mind of many unenlightened people. The sage is the one who knows the Way and shows it through testimony and example. At the same time, the esoteric aspects of every culture foster the seed of knowledge that exists in everyone as the Inner Teacher. The Taoist scriptures contain the highest knowledge in symbolic form. And as Master Hsuan Yuan points out in the section of his book under consideration in this commentary, even the Chinese pictograms themselves express this knowledge clearly to those who know. In this way, spiritual wisdom lies at the heart of every culture, residing in the inner meaning of its scriptures and traditions. This inner meaning points to the essence — the origin to which all are called to return. Indeed, the Chinese culture is recognized as one of the world's richest, so it would be surprising if spiritual wisdom were not found imbedded in its scriptures and traditions, and underlying its popular religious conceptions. VIII In Taoism, God as the personal aspect of Heaven is called Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen, who is the same as Hsuan Hsuan Shang Ti. The term hsuan means mysterious, shang means supreme, jen means man or person, and ti means ruler. Thus, Taoism agrees with other religions in its conception of God as the Supreme Person and the Heavenly Ruler who is mysterious, i.e., real, but invisible to the sense and unknowable by ordinary mind. People all over the world and throughout history have called upon God or Heaven in times of need, and especially when calamity strikes. Historians of religion have examined the behavior of ancient peoples and determined that virtually all of them observed some religious rituals, presumably for the propitiation of higher powers. Some historians have concluded that human beings model their conception of God on what they know of themselves and their environment. Therefore, scholars argue, it is logical that primitive people should transfer to God the highest powers that they could conceive or imagine. In this view, natural forces such as the storm were deified first. Subsequently, people began to deify the attributes of their temporal ruler, and God came to be viewed as the supreme personage and the ultimate ruler — the source of power and might from which the temporal ruler received a heavenly mandate. This view has been applied to religious Taoism also, which scholars have tended to view as springing from an indigenous shamanism and developing into a state religion. According to this view, the notion of Heaven (t'ien) as the Supreme Ruler (shang ti) was especially encouraged by the emperor, who was worshipped as the Son of Heaven (God), as a means of justifying his temporal rule on the basis of divine right. Scholars also note that this development of popular religion parallels the development of religion in most other cultures. The conclusion is that folk religion is based on a primitive superstition that was exploited by those in power for their own purposes, and that religious Taoism fits into this category also. History shows that the Chinese emperor was not alone in claiming divine status. In fact, the notion of the divine right of kings persisted in Europe in some quarters almost until modern times. IX There is, however, another explanation for the prevalent religious orientation of human beings. No matter how far backward in time one looks, there is evidence of non-ordinary states of awareness. In fact, a number of philosophers (among whom Henri Bergson is noteworthy) have speculated that it is mystical experience that underlies the esoteric dimension of religion, even if empirical factors can account for the exoteric aspect. In this view, folk religion may well have developed as researchers presume. On the other hand, the persistence of the mystical in religion, as evidenced by the reputations and reports of the sages, seers, prophets and holy ones, indicates that the development of religion was not merely historical and sociological. There is also a great deal of evidence pointing to a privileged experiential element which connects the most exalted forms of human spirituality to the noumenal reality underlying phenomenal experience. Significantly in this regard, the very first section of the "bible" of Taoism, the Tao Teh Ching attributed to Lao Tzu, contains the notion that the Tao is ineffable and mysterious, yet quintessentially real. The whole force of philosophical Taoism is that Tao is neither a concept, nor a belief, but a reality to be realized and lived. Taoism is poorly understood among scholars because its literature is extremely recondite, and Taoists have been secretive about the intended meaning of the metaphors. It is becoming evident, however, that the meaning of most Taoist terms relates either to non-ordinary states of body and mind or to processes for attaining such states. It is now widely recognized that philosophical Taoism reflects an extremely ancient spiritual technology, similar to the ancient Vedic and ancient Buddhist spirituality, whose roots are lost in antiquity. Scholars also recognize that religious Taoism is also concerned with mystical states, as well as esoteric practices for achieving them. Some scholars erroneously believe that philosophical Taoism bears little relation to religious Taoism. Some hold, for example, that religious Taoism is a kind of "neo-Taoism," developed subsequent to the original philosophical Taoism and based upon folk religion and shamanism rather than on mystical spirituality. As evidence for this view, it is cited that the Tao Teh Ching is philosophical rather than religious, being specifically concerned with Tao as Absolute and not at all with T'ien as Heaven or personal God. Such scholars hold that philosophical Taoism was developed largely by isolated monks who forsook the world for philosophical introspection and esoteric practices, whereas Taoist temples grew up primarily in communities in response to the development of folk religion and reflect its popular and often superstitious nature. Because Master Hsuan Yuan has been given permission from on high to reveal the true state of affairs, he has departed from the former secrecy to come out and declare that Tao and T'ien are one and the same from the vantage of integral Taoism. What is expressed impersonally in the philosophical aspect of Taoism is expressed more personally in the religious, but they are two sides of the same coin — and that coin is wholeness. Tao and T'ien are both self-aware wholeness. The difference is that human beings forget that they are one with that wholeness (although they may come to remember it through initiation, spiritual practice and right living), whereas Heaven (God) is eternally cognizant of the perfect state of wholeness (although this cannot be adequately stated in human language). Those who profoundly realize Tao also become directly acquainted with Heaven. The notion of religious Taoism that Heaven has thirty-six levels is not idle fancy or mystification. It is based on the direct acquaintance of seers with the reality. Just as in philosophical Taoism there are many metaphysical levels — Wu Chi, Tai Chi, Tao, and so forth; so too, in religious Taoism there are also many levels of Heaven, as well as many deities and immortals. However, for the seer, the differences at this level are not the same as differences among the objects ordinarily perceived. Ordinary perception is on the basis of separation and difference, whereas mystical experience is on the basis of unity and wholeness. X To illustrate this point, take the example of the identity of Tao and T'ien with respect to the creation of the Universe. According to the Tao Teh Ching, Tao gives rise to the one, one to the two, two to the three and three to the ten thousand things. Implicitly, then, Tao is the origin. On the other hand, according to the religious view God is the creator. Are these two different accounts of creation or are they different aspects of the same account? Researchers would have little to go on to make such a determination. Lacking any evidence that the accounts are essentially the same, they generally conclude that they are different. But those who are profoundly established in Tao and directly acquainted with Heaven can testify that these accounts are the same. That is to say, from the vantage of the sage the unitary wholeness has both a personal aspect and an impersonal aspect. The former is characteristic of "religious Taoism" and the latter of "philosophical Taoism." But there is one, integral Taoism. The essence of Taoism is essentially holistic and transcends cultural limitations. XI This essential congruity between the philosophical and the religious perspective can be demonstrated by a well-known example from the Christian tradition. Saint Thomas Aquinas is perhaps the most celebrated Catholic philosopher, and he is best known perhaps for his five proofs of the existence of God. The first and second of these demonstrations are based on the existence of change. They are adapted from the ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle, the most famous pupil of Plato, who was himself the student of Socrates. The rationale of the demonstration is that since what comes to be and passes out of existence is not self-sufficient, and since it is absurd to postulate an regress of causes ad infinitum, it is necessary to posit an uncaused cause which is self-subsistent. (This notion can be seen as in accord with the conception of Tao set forth in the Tao Teh Ching, notably in the very first section.) Aquinas then proceeds to say, not that this self-subsistent origin proves the existence of God, but that this self-subsistent existence is "what we call God." The proof is not of God as the Supreme Person of religion, but rather it is the demonstration of an intellectual necessity for self-subsistent existence as the origin of conditioned existence. This self-subsistent existence is then identified with God, the Creator. As a philosopher Aquinas sets forth to prove a conclusion concerning the impersonal, but as theologian he postulates the personal. Similarly, in Taoism the sages speak of Tao from the perspective of the impersonal, which is the empty state (wu chi) of mystical experience. Yet, in another breath they also speak from the perspective of the personal, treating Heaven as the domain of the deities and immortals. The Uppermost Heaven (ta luo t'ien), corresponding to the unmanifest Absolute (wu chi), is the dwelling, so to speak, of the Supreme One (tai-i), as well as the Three Ones (san-i). The highest Heaven is said in some ancient texts to be empty (wu) and in others to be the dwelling place of the Celestial Venerable of the Primordial Beginning (yuan shih t'ien tsun). What appears to scholars to be a discrepancy in the texts is not that at all. The Taoist sages report that the transcendental state is indeed empty, just as Buddhist Arhats hold that ultimate reality is empty (shunya). However, this emptiness is not the emptiness of lack. Rather, this void is the origin of all things. The Void in which everything is latent is the formless source of all form and the changeless origin of all changes. Or, to paraphrase the Tao Teh Ching, since it is the origin. Tao can be called neither being nor non-being, and without doing anything (wu wei) it accomplishes everything. From the perspective of religious Taoism, Upper Heaven is said to be the place of the Celestial Venerables (t'ien tsun). The three are the Celestial Venerables of the Primordial Beginning (yuan shih t'ien tsun), the Celestial Venerable of the Magic Jewel (ling pao t'ien tsun) and the Celestial Venerable of the Tao and Teh (tao te t'ien tsun). This is another way of representing what is set forth philosophically in the Tao Teh Ching: "Tao begot One, One begot Two, Two begot Three, and Three begot the ten thousand things." The Jade Emperor (yu huang) is also called a Celestial Venerable, as we shall see momentarily. XII How the philosophical and religious aspects of Taoism are in agreement is generally not grasped by scholars, nor even by the proponents of the various sects of Taoism who are not privy to the esoteric secrets known only to the sages. The realm of Tao eternally awake to itself is Upper Heaven. The dwellers in Upper Heaven are, first, the Celestial Venerable of the Primordial Beginning, which corresponds to Tao as origin. Secondly, there is the Celestial Venerable of the Magic Jewel, or Tao as the natural law that regulates what is originated. (This recalls the beginning of the Gospel of John: "At the origin was the Word (Greek: logos) and the Word was with God (theos) and the Word was God"). The Celestial Venerable of Tao and Teh is the one eternal Master (Lao Tzu) in the sense that Tao as the Inner Teacher is within every being that is originated in order to return it to the origin. In fact, the purpose of every outer teaching and teaching is to introduce a person to the Inner Teacher. Finally, the Jade Emperor is Tao as the administrator who does all without doing anything. The Jade Emperor is the one who administers origination for the Celestial Venerable of the Primordial Origin, oversees rule in accordance with natural law for the Celestial Venerable of the Magic Jewel, and manages returning to the origin by initiation and instruction for the Celestial Venerable of the Tao and Teh. As such, the Jade Emperor is the Creator, Heavenly Ruler, and the Eternal Master. To him is accorded the titles of Transcendental Supreme Personage (hsuan hsuan shang jen) and Mysterious Heavenly Ruler (hsuan hsuan shang ti). As the eternal Master he is also Lao Tzu. To the Universe he administers, He is God or Heaven (t'ien). The Jade Emperor is called the assistant of the three Celestial Venerables in some ancient texts and their ruler in others. Scholars have concluded that at a point of political weakness, the Taoist priesthood promoted him at the insistence of the emperor in order to justify imperial rule by divine right. While this scenario may have some historical truth to it, sages would say that it is not the whole story. Human beings picture Heaven to themselves in terms of their earthly logic. However, Heaven is essentially different because wholeness prevails, whereas the minds of the unenlightened, perceiving only phenomena, are characterized by fragmentation and separation. Ordinary thought and its logic is not capable of reaching Heaven in any kind of reliable way, therefore popular conceptions of spiritual and religious matters may be inadequate or even erroneous. An analogy from modern physical science will serve to illustrate the difference. The world of phenomena is described by classical physics, in which the principle of non-contradiction is fundamental. According to the principle of non-contradiction a thing cannot both be and also not be, at the same time and in the same respect. However, in the quantum world, the principle of non-contradiction does not apply rigidly. In the quantum state, things have both particle and wave nature, and a particle can be localized in different positions simultaneously, even though this defies ordinary logic. Similarly, in the holographic conception of the Universe, every finite point contains all the information of the whole. Infinity resides in every point, which also seems to run counter to ordinary logic. When ordinary human beings picture Heaven to themselves, they do so in accordance with their characteristic mode of knowing. This mode of knowing is limited, not holistic, and so they cannot adequately model the noumenal reality with their limited imagination and language. Only the sage, having "returned to the origin" and gained holistic awareness, can attain knowledge of wholeness and know it to be both impersonal as Absolute (Tao) and personal as God of Heaven (T'ien). To the sage, wholeness predominates, and so the sage finds no contradiction in holding that T'ien is Tao and Tao is T'ien, which is tantamount to equating the God of religions with the Absolute of philosophers. Theologians of all traditions regularly do this. In fact, sages report that in essence a human being is Tao also, in spite of the fact that people believe themselves to be limited and cannot conceive of themselves otherwise. Here one recalls the well-known section of Chuang Tzu, in which Chuang Tzu asserts to his astonished followers that Tao is even in excrement, adding wryly that if it were not, we would all be in big trouble. Similarly, for the sage established in holistic awareness there is no contradiction in considering the Jade Emperor to be the "assistant" of the three Celestial Venerables, as well as their "superior." The Jade Emperor serves the three Celestial Venerables from the perspective of administering the cosmic functions that they respectively oversee, namely, origination, rule in accordance with natural law, and return to the origin. At the same time, the Jade Emperor is over the three Celestial Venerables from the perspective of his function as the Supreme Personage and Heavenly King. To sages, these differences are merely apparent, since the same wholeness displays itself to them in apparent diversity without forfeiting its unity and integrity thereby. . From the perspective of a seer, the sage is one who is established in a state of holistic awareness in which wholeness and unity predominate over diversity and change. Whereas ordinary people focus on individuality and separateness, with the result that they are driven by desire, anger and fear, the sage sees everything in terms of unity and integration, so that the sage's life is one of contented fulfillment. When everything is seen against the background of unity, what appears contradictory to ordinary minds, which focus on individuality and separation, is merely paradoxical for the sage. In this sense, paradox is the coincidence of apparent opposites at a higher level of realization. In fact, Taoism emphasizes this coincidence of opposites in wholeness, perhaps even more than any other wisdom tradition. XIII The Taoist pantheon of Upper Heaven is actually not very different from the conception Christians have of their Holy Trinity, in which the one indivisible God is celebrated as the Father or origin, the Son or Word, and the Spirit or the "breath" through which God mystically communicates. Nor is it very different from the Vedic conception of the one Brahman (wholeness) which functions through Trimurti, that is, the pantheon of Brahma the Creator, Vishnu the Evolver and Shiva the Destroyer (return to the origin being accomplished through the destruction of ignorance). However, the Trimurti and Trinity should not be identified, since they represent different aspects of how divinity functions with respect to the manifest. That each system is expressed religiously in terms of a "holy tri-unity" is hardly accidental. The idea of a tri-unity is that there are three dimensions that are themselves substantial in the one ultimate reality as indivisible wholeness. Holiness, as it is applied to God as ultimate reality signifies indivisible wholeness, and saints are said to be holy to the degree that they are united with wholeness and display that wholeness. In fact, the ancient Christian ritual contains the words, "Blessed be the Holy Trinity, the undivided Unity" and Christians generally regard this unity in diversity as the preeminent "mystery" (hsuan) of their faith. In the esoteric understanding revealed though the practice of mystical spirituality that leads to holistic awareness, the self-subsistent existence as knower (Father, origin) knows itself, "generating" a knowledge of itself which is identical with itself (Son). Hence, One begets two. However, the knower and known are linked in a knowing that is identical to the knower and known, which are themselves identical. Thus, the two beget three without forfeiting its unity and wholeness. From this formless, boundless, changeless three flows the multiplicity of form — "the ten thousand things." Returning to the origin, the sage becomes acquainted with this unmanifest unity in diversity, and the seer "sees" how creation takes place. For the sage, creation does not involve separation from the origin. Separation is only an appearance in the minds of those who have not yet awakened experientially to wholeness through realization. The Taoist, Christian and Vedic conceptions of Holy Trinity can be considered to be comparable from the mystical perspective. For them, there is no contradiction that God or Heaven is identical with Wholeness (Tao, Godhead, Brahman). Nor is there any contradiction that the One (Tai I or T'ien I, God, Paramatma) is identical to the Three (San I, Holy Trinity, Trimurti). Thus, we can conclude that there is no contradiction for a Taoist sage such as Master Hsuan Yuan to proclaim that the Transcendental Supreme Person (Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen) is God (Hsuan Hsuan Shang Ti), Heaven (T'ien) and Wholeness (Tao) simultaneously. This remains, however, the Great Mystery (hsuan hsuan) to be penetrated by those who would return to the origin, and its reality is veiled from their acquaintance until they have attained holistic awareness. XIV Some scholars have speculated that religions have created their deities by personalizing natural forces and philosophical ideas. They view the deities of religious Taoism as such anthropomorphism. Our investigation has attempted to suggest how this viewpoint may have truth with respect to folk religion, (what we are calling the exoteric aspect of religion) but that it is an oversimplification. It does not apply to what we are calling the esoteric aspect of religion, namely, that dimension which is grounded in the gnosis of mystical spirituality. The sages of all religions use symbolism that is often naively interpreted in an overly literal way, which either distorts the intended meaning or misses it altogether, sometimes even reversing it completely. Moreover, our comparing the Taoist deities to aspects of Tao does not reduce religious Taoism to philosophical Taoism (as some have attempted to do). The meeting point between the philosophical and the religious lies in the shared wholeness of Tao and t'ien. Their identity is based on the energetic and intelligent nature of wholeness, in which lies the creative nature of the origin. For example, awareness is one — a unity. Yet, awareness being reflexive, its essential and existential unity encompasses subjective and objective epistemic poles: A self-conscious being does not become two entities by knowing its own existence. From the mystical perspective, a deity is an aspect of wholeness that embodies or characterizes a specific dimension of energy and intelligence such as origination, rule in accordance with natural law, the removal of ignorance, or cosmic administration. For example, "president" is the title of an office with a certain job description, but a person fills that office and carries out the work of that office while occupying it. The office might be compared with the philosophical factor and the person filling it with the religious. From the vantage of mystical spirituality, self-subsistent wholeness is the origin of phenomena. As such it is a reservoir of infinite creative energy and intelligence. Energy may be conceived as that which produces change and intelligence as that which directs change in a patterned way, that is, in accordance with invariant principles. These invariant principles form the totality of natural law, the internal dynamical structure of self-aware wholeness. On the one hand, wholeness is infinite, eternal, formless, and changeless. On the other hand, it is the origin of space, time, change, form and boundaries. As aspects of wholeness Tao and T'ien underlie change as its source. The deities are aspects of energy and intelligence that are ultimately responsible for organizing and implementing process in accordance with the internal dynamical structure of wholeness — natural law. From the spiritual perspective, change is the process of proceeding from the origin and returning to it. The course of evolution is from origin back to origin. This course is established and regulated by dimensions of intelligence which are themselves Intelligences (deities) grounded in the origin — wholeness as creative intelligence, which religions call God or Heaven and which philosophers call the Absolute. These dimensions of intelligence are not separate from wholeness, but rather each embodies wholeness. They are distinguished by function and not by substance. Therefore, there is essentially no dichotomy between the philosophical and the religious, other than that the former treats more of the impersonal and the latter more of the personal. At their basis, however, the personal and the impersonal aspects are united in self-subsistent, self-aware and self-appreciative wholeness. XV There is a popular notion of God among the Chinese people that is not very different from the generally held conceptions of these other cultures. There is a Taoist concept of a God who is the origin of all things. This God is comparable to the Creator God of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, as well as also to Brahma the Creator of the religions stemming from ancient India. Emmanuel Kant, a German philosopher of the eighteenth century, set forth reasons why this popular conception of God prevails. Kant discovered that the human mind has its own characteristic dynamic which organizes its data through inherent structures of perception, imagination, conception, understanding and reason. One aspect of this organization is to seek to unify data under broad explanations. In its search for unity, according to Kant, the mind organizes experience in terms of the experiencer (subject) in addition to that which is experienced (object). What the mind experiences is sense data (phenomena). Phenomena, however, are appearances, presumably of the real (noumenal), but they themselves are mental, appearing in the mind. The logical structure resident in the mind seeks to explain the phenomena of experience by positing a real (noumenal) world underlying sense data, which gives phenomena a reality and unity beyond the mind. The logical structure resident in the mind also seeks to account for the mind by assuming a non-experienced real (noumenal) self which underlies the mind, giving the changing states of the mind a continuity of existence. Moreover, since these metaphysical notions of self and world do not account for everything satisfactorily, the mind organizes this "missing data" in terms of a higher level dimension of the unknown by postulating the notions of "reality" grounding the appearances, and God as the source. Kant points out that the metaphysical concepts of self behind the mind, real universe grounding phenomena, and God as source and ordering principle are mental constructs which extend human thought beyond the limits of experience. He also points out that being beyond the limits of experience, these concepts are empty of experience. Being empty of experience, they do not yield complete knowledge of what they signify. Kant's analysis was prescient. He had a great insight into how the unenlightened mind functions, creating an illusory notion of the experiencer (ego) as separate from the phenomena it experiences, and positing transcendental structures — self, world, God — that seem to be needed where experience is lacking. Moreover, Kant points that the mind unfortunately cannot prove what it postulates beyond experience, and so humanity is never really sure whether the existence of what it postulates metaphysically is real. It is illogical, however, to conclude that what lies beyond experience does not exist. The logical conclusion is only that experience is incapable of determining this. What lies beyond ordinary experience of phenomena is the domain of mystery. Uncertainty with respect to what is ultimate is the nature of the human condition. Being a pious man, Kant concluded that faith (religious belief) is necessary to overcome such metaphysical doubts. Similarly, all religions and wisdom traditions rely on the revelation of sages who are presumed to have attained higher knowledge through mystical insight. To bolster this faith with knowledge, the sages come forward to testify further that it is possible to expand experience beyond its ordinary limitations in order to verify that concerning which the mind can only speculate. They assert that enlightenment is the overcoming of the illusion of separateness by discovering that one is not the body, mind, or personality as one might thinks or believes. Each person and the universe itself is one with the wholeness that underlies all phenomena as their source and ground, and everyone is capable of realizing this through higher awareness. Therefore, the popular notion of God and the exoteric aspect of religion that fosters this conception are merely a prelude to higher knowledge. The esoteric aspect of religion enables a person to move beyond mythology to mystical experience, beyond the externals of worship to the experience of the spiritual world, and beyond the observance of moral precepts to true virtue. Taoism like every other religion has its exoteric and esoteric aspects. Religions differ exoterically on account of cultural differences. However, the esoteric aspect of every religion is essentially the same because what sages and seers discover in mystical experience is not cultural. It is the full potential of the human nature we share in common with each other. Therefore, God for the Taoist sage is not different from that of the Vedic rishi, the Buddhist arhat, the Hebrew prophet or tzaddik, the Christian mystic or saint, the true Sufi, or any illumined or realized being, even though even they may speak somewhat differently of philosophical and religious matters owing to temporal and cultural differences, as well as the needs of their time. In his published works, Taoist Master Hsuan Yuan has presented Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen authoritatively as the Origin, and Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen has revealed his message to the world through the vehicle of Master Hsuan Yuan. On the basis of this unique and unprecedented revelation, we conclude that Taoism has a God who is the Creator and Lord of the Universe, who is not different in essential conception from the Supreme Person of other traditions, and that this supreme person is identical in denotation with the Absolute of philosophers, although their connotations differ. The difference between Tao and T'ien lies in the limitations of human conception rather than ultimate reality, which exists eternally in the indivisible wholeness of infinite awareness. © 2002, 2008 Thomas J. Hickey All Rights Reserved.

Your blog is inaccessible in China, but you are most welcome!

I originally posted this article in remembrance of the master who asked that it be written, so in keeping with that intent, I don't want to turn this post into a fighting ground. However, unfortunately, many people here posted without having read the article in full, and without having understood this message. Many responses, therefore, really do not reflect what the article is actually about. Out of respect for Master Hsuan, Dr. Hickey, and readers who might first skim the big block of text and then be convinced not to go back and read it because of responses that misrepresent the essay's content, I have taken the time to reread both the essay and the responses, and hopefully set a few misconceptions straight. ______ Starjumper: The article already addresses your point, Starjumper. It states: and ______ Starjumper: To be clear, the author does not attempt to assert that Buddhists believe in God, in the sense of a creator god. He states, However, it is worth noting that Buddhism has held that there are various "gods" since very early days. Hence, one of the Buddha's ten appellations is "Teacher of Gods and Men." However, this is a big aside. ______ Flowing Hands: I am not really sure what you are disagreeing with, Flowing Hands. Yes, the author does at one point call the Jade Emperor creator, but if one pays attention, He is only in this position "as such." In detail, Hickey writes: As to whether creation traces back to ONE GOD, although the author constantly remakes the point that there is no real contradiction between anthropomorphic "God" and emptiness, it is pretty clear where he ultimately stands on the point of origin: ______ Shanlung: First of all, Shanlung, with your liberal copying and pasting, you display a remarkable dis-economy with words for a man who claims to see excess verbiage as an obstacle. Secondly, Zhuangzi is very clear when he says, "得意忘言," which tells us we can forget the words after we obtain the meaning. He does not tell us to do away with all words. After all, the Zhuangzi is quite a long text. Thirdly, your bigoted remark about Westerners' "cherished sentiments" suggests that you really did not read and comprehend the essay, or you would have notice when the author said: Fourthly, after castigating the author and Westerners in general you paste your writings, which include, You fail to realize that the author has already made the same exact points. Below which I paste just one of many examples from the source text: If you had approached this post with an open mind instead of with your prejudice, you might have realized there was nothing at all for your to disagree with. You could have then spared us some unnecessary verbiage, no? ______ Taomeow, in addition to thanking you for providing that fascinating piece of history, I must also thank you for pointing out a very important reality which is lost on many, many people who would call themselves students of Daoist teachings. That reality is that there is no central dogma in Daoism, and that furthermore, no Daoist feels that this fact diminished the tradition nor creates contradiction. Regarding what you say about esoteric astrology, it is certainly a deep and important part of Daoism... which I have only the barest of bare introductions to! My only question for you--which might be better discussed elsewhere--is, how can "beings" as exalted, transcendent, subtle, and primordial as the Three Purities be limited to reliance on the physical existence of certain stars or constellations? Or maybe they pertain to the "chaos and order, fractals and power laws, time and space, relativity and determinism, existence and creation, nonexistence and destruction, the great cosmic processes of Conception, Growth, Fruition, Consummation, and on and on" that you mention, and not distinct cosmic bodies? _____ Notvoid: Yes, what you point out is rather dismaying. The original post has been disagreed with and even attacked by people who have not even given it a proper read-through. Could we more often embody the virtues of respect, patience, slowness, and thinking before speaking, we would not just make this board a better place, but also greatly improve our own personal cultivation practices, reaping immediate personal benefit. Practitioners do well to make these virtues their friends. I understand why you hesitated before replying and thank you for your thought. ______ Vitalii, I think you make an important point. ______ ChiDragon: ChiDragon, how could you have read the essay and not seen its connection to the title? Secondly, you have misinterpreted the author. He does not try to equate the Tao to gods and deities. He even deeply criticizes common understandings of gods, calling these understandings "credulous" and "naive"--see above in the quotes in response to Shanlung's post. Instead of equating Dao to gods and deities, Dr. Hickey does the opposite, saying that deep understanding of core teachings of all religions all point to the same holistic reality that Dao represents. ______ My thanks to those who have contributed to this discussion, especially those who actually read the article! Finally, a question: Captain Mar-Vell, did you know Master Hsuan Yuan?

Long? I still remember a day when people used to read books... To clarify, I did not write the piece. Glad that some found it useful. I don't think some of the issues raised by responders accurately reflect the author's message, but I'm in no mood to debate. This piece is about the ultimate lack of contradiction in the at-once esoteric and exoteric cosmology of this school of Daoism, in which two seemingly contradictory natures of reality are simultaneously real. Thus, " Thus, we can conclude that there is no contradiction for a Taoist sage such as Master Hsuan Yuan to proclaim that the Transcendental Supreme Person (Hsuan Hsuan Shang Jen) is God (Hsuan Hsuan Shang Ti), Heaven (T'ien) and Wholeness (Tao) simultaneously. This remains, however, the Great Mystery (hsuan hsuan) to be penetrated by those who would return to the origin, and its reality is veiled from their acquaintance until they have attained holistic awareness. " That said, I have no direct realization of these teachings and intended only to share an article that I thought some would find useful. Again, I am glad it resonated with a few people.

You have posted excessively voluminous misinformation and disinformation (alongside some genuine information as well as things I lack the ability to comment on) about Daoism for several years. By becoming the pervasive presence on this forum, as well as by taking the tone of expert, de facto you put yourself in the role of teacher. My aim is to apply scrutiny to your teachings and, yes, to discredit them where they are too aggregiously false. In other words, I only post to kill the message. As for your personal longevity, I hope that you enjoy good health for as many years as you need to develop great wisdom. It is a long path. Save your breath.

Some commentary on ChiDragon's spurious notions for the benefit of those sincerely pursuing study of Daoism. One can use all caps, large fonts, bold, underline, blinking text, whatever. That does not give one carte blanche to decide how to translate a word. ChiDragon would like you to believe that because Chinese is his native language that he therefore understands Daoism, and specifically for the purposes of this discussion, the branch commonly called Complete Reality. However, if he actually read primary and secondary sources, he would know that the name 全真 contains multiple layers of meaning which neither "complete reality" nor "all true" effectively convey. One meaning is the "completion" of humanity's three treasures. Another is "completely true" skill and conduct. There is much more to be said about these things. I choose not to write about it here, because providing new information will just supply certain Google and Baidu warriors with new stuffing to pad their posts with as they pontificate on subjects they have not actually studied. Those who have affinity will go deeper. Daoists recognize the limitation of language, yes, but on the other hand the terminology of this tradition is very well-defined and requires real study; simply being Chinese is not enough to let one in the door. One must have oral transmission and an appetite for lots of reading if one wants to be able to hold genuine discourse. Everything else is 门外汉在纸上谈玄, or, less politely, 瞎扯淡. Within the last month or two, ChiDragon declared in all caps that he had never seen xing and ming mentioned in any Taoist text. His bold statement would indicate that he is not familiar with the Triplex Unity (周易参同契), Understanding Reality (悟真篇), classics of Zhongli Quan and Lv Dongbin, and writings of Qiu Chuji. In other words, before he deleted his ejaculation, he confessed that he, in fact, has not studied the key writings of the very tradition that he would like you to believe he understands. Later ChiDragon did some searching on Baidu, edited his post, and reinvented himself as an expert on this subject, his not-very-old post nowhere to be seen. Readers beware. Suffice it to say, xing ming is not so simple as he would have you believe. Here ChiDragon seems to be asking a rhetorical question, but actually there is a very specific answer. In Daoism lineage passed down from master to disciple is considered extremely important. One knows which lineage is which because lineages have names. This type of nomenclature is not taken lightly in Daoism or other aspects of traditional Chinese culture, including the martial, medical, artistic, and musical worlds. In more than one thread ChiDragon can be seen suggesting to Vitalii that the latter change the name of his school to 全真派 or 全真教. I have no comment on the legitemacy or lack thereof of Vitalii's school. What I can say is that any person who would suggest changing the name of one's school to that of another, pre-existing lineage, not only does not understand Daoism, but also has a very limited grasp of traditional Chinese culture. What ChiDragon says is akin to telling a taiji teacher who has been accused of not knowing genuine taiji that perhaps he could just change the name of his martial art to xingyi or bagua. Here ChiDragon reveals that he has neither done much meditation, nor read books about it, nor listened to people who have gone through years of meditation. Various forms of meditation are all known to initiate healing responses in the human body, one of the many effects of which is increasing the need for sleep until the process completes. Reaching the stage where meditation can replace sleep is not a simple matter. Those who have put in the hours know this. Those who have not can only spout incredible ideas. Unfortunately, they manage to do so by the many thousand and can turn message boards into bully pulpits by virtue of sheer quantity. Sigh. Knowing the Chinese language and understanding Quanzhen teachings are completely different things. An Israeli who knows Hebrew but has never been to synagogue is no more prepared to lecture on Judeaism than ChiDragon is to lecture on Daoism. Believing otherwise is 骗己骗人. Again, one cannot just change the name of one's school to Quanzhen or anything else to avoid confusion, challenges, and whatnot. The dismaying thing is that I could continue in this vein seemingly ad infinitum. Those who would enter the door of this tradition are advised to know that the dogs constantly yapping outside of the gate may simply be strays looking for a place to lift their legs, and not the actual gatekeepers. Moderators please take note.

The notion that we can find 1-to-1 relationships between concepts from classical Chinese thought and modern anatomy and physiology is very, very seductive. Especially for great numbers of modern Chinese scholars whose mentalities are still colored by 150 years of shock and awe in the face of Western techno-might on the one hand and the Cultural Revolution on the other. Unfortunately, despite the seductiveness of thinking that the ancient Chinese and modern scientists are all talking about the same thing, just using different vocabularies, close examination reveals that this is a 狐狸精 you don't want to hop into bed with. Why do people continue at this fool's errand when it has failed to produce good doctors and good theories? Blind admiration for the technological behemoth that subjugated China as well as near-severance of their own traditions means that few Chinese think in a way that in any way, shape, or form that resembles that of the ancients. Even inside of Chinese TCM academia probably fewer than 5% of scholars and scholar-practitioners study, understand, and use classical Chinese thought. Those who do are not empowered to lead the zeitgeist and thus are really only able to preach to the choir and those of us who, or our own accord, wish to join the choir. Despite what Fox Television (another 狐狸精 I assiduously avoid) might have you believe, no, there are not many people in the glee club. There is a further problem deflating Johnson's assertion: academic honesty and integrity are not very highly valued in the PRC and apparently have not been since the early 1980s, right about when cash became king. Very long, complicated, and saddening story short: lots and lots and lots of published research in China is complete and utter bullshit. This problem exists everywhere, but it is running rampant and riot in the PRC. If you think I am just making this stuff up, you can check the works of Heiner Fruehauf, Andrew Nugent-Head, Jeffrey Yuen and many others, and you will find confirmation coming from various hoary 前辈. That out of the way, let's look at the adrenal glands. The most well-known product of the adrenals is, of course, adrenaline (epinephrine). Vastly simplified, adrenaline gives you the fight or flight response by causing blood vessels to constrict in the skin and the internal organs whilst relaxing blood vessels in your muscles. With the help of Wikipedia, let us take a look at the list of symptoms of the fight-or-flight response with the reality of kidney yang function in parentheses: Acceleration of heart and lung action (kidney yang is not closely associated with heart or lung function; heart function is related to heart yang, whereas lung action is more a question of lung qi; while the kidneys do play an important part in breathing, they should make breathing slow and deep, which is the exact opposite of what happens when you're in fight-or-flight) Paling or flushing, or alternating between both (pale skin is actually a sign of weak kidney yang; flushing is often a question of excess heat/fire or yin deficiency fire, not kidney yang) Inhibition of stomach and upper-intestinal action to the point where digestion slows down or stops (kidney yang has a close relationship with digestion, by providing fire from the mingmen to the spleen; when this fire is deficient, the result is various types of loose stool/diahrrea; constipation and indigestion are mechanisms essentially distinct from Chinese medicine kidney function) General effect on the sphincters of the body (I can't comment on this) Constriction of blood vessels in many parts of the body (constriction of blood vessels at the surface of the body will cause the temperature of the extremities to drop, yielding, for example, cold hands and feet; however, cold hands and feet are precisely a sign of deficient kidney yang!) Liberation of metabolic energy sources (particularly fat and glycogen) for muscular action (Can't comment) Dilation of blood vessels for muscles (Can't comment) Inhibition of the lacrimal gland (responsible for tear production) and salivation (the ability to salivate is actually, quite to the contrary, related to kidneys having sufficient yin and yang to deliver this moisture from the lower jiao to the upper jiao; tears and crying are most closely tied to liver and lung function) Dilation of pupil (mydriasis) (No comment) Relaxation of bladder (If what is meant here is an increase in urination, well, that's a sign of insufficient kidney yang) Inhibition of erection (classic symptom of weak kidney yang!) Auditory exclusion (loss of hearing) (classic symptom of weak kidneys!) Tunnel vision (loss of peripheral vision) (Can't comment) Disinhibition of spinal reflexes (Can't comment) Shaking (Usually a condition of wind or perhaps insufficient 阴津 in the tissues, not generally tied to kidneys except fo r the fact that Chinese medicine kidneys and liver share the same origin--乙癸同源) If you believe what I wrote, then you see that the reality seems to actually be quite the opposite of what Jerry Alan Johnson apparently said--it seems that the adrenal glands being called into action to release adrenaline causes symptoms that contraindicate healthy kidney yang. If we look at another important hormone produced the by adrenal glands, cortisol, we get a long list of effects that, basically, don't seem to have much to do with kidney yang. However, there are two that are very germane, again, because they seem to disprove Johnson's claim: Shuts down the reproductive system (precisely a sign that your kidneys are in major, major trouble, unless you have achieved this feat through Daoist alchemy, in which case your kidneys are extremely healthy but they are involved in the transformations required to produce an immortal instead of the transformations required to produce offspring) It has been shown that cortisol inhibits memory retrieval of already stored information (without doubt, in Chinese medicine memory loss raises a red flag: poor kidney health; the relationship of kidney yang in particular to memory is that yang is required to bring kidney jing up the du meridian into the brain) I believe that there is more than enough information here to suggest that the statement attributed to Jerry Alan Johnson is, at best, extraordinarily over-simplistic. The great shame is that this kind of thinking is what Chinese medicine education has been more or less reduced to. Result? Fewer than 10% of TCM program graduates in China actually become doctors. The education borders on being useless for all but a few with profound intelligence, luck, doggedness, and affinity.

Mercy mercy mercy. 1. The Huangdi Neijing goes into elaborate and confusing depth about jing that few in China can clearly explain. Sadly, this article only adds to confusion, first by seeming to imply that sweat is jing (clearly the notions of somebody who has not actually read the Neijing, much less a modern TCM textbook) and secondly by neglecting to mention the vast wealth of actual knowledge about jing in this text. 2. The body does not always respond to external pathogenic qi with sweating--in fact, the very reason that it often fails to is the basis for the existence of arguably the most famous prescription in Chinese medicine. You brother would know this if he had read the first section of the, oh, mildly important Shanghan Lun before waxing pedantic. 3. Saying that the spleen-stomach is the origin of jing is 胡说八道, _especially_ if this topic is,meant to pertain to Daoist cultivation. 4. Implying that the Neijing talks of viruses is grevious 胡说八道--utter nonsense. Likewise, 正气≠immune system. Readers are wise to be cautious about taking the original post's notions on board.

I see, thank you.

Opendao, I am under the impression that Zhao Bichen had transmission from the Wu Liu school, and yet he clearly taught seated practices. How do you interpret the seeming contradiction?

I don't think that this is the same thing as being actually possessed by a devil (or demon, rather), or ghost, which is a phenomenon recognized as real by most traditional cultivators in China. 走火入魔 only really refers to problems arising from problems in energetic and spiritual practices--as ChiDragon said, 偏差, and probably quite extreme 偏差 in order to earn this label. Possession might more likely be called 着魔. Pang Ming, who created Zhineng Gong wrote a primer on the history of qigong and he believed that the strictest definition of 走火入魔 meant qi deviations inside of the brain during small heavenly circle practice, if I recall correctly. It is very sad to see people with this kind of problem, as they often remain attached to whatever they were doing that made them disturbed.

Friend: excellent. That he taught Wang Xiangzhai makes getting an answer especially easy. I'll get back to this question, hopefully within two weeks.

Regarding poverty and Complete Reality Daoist teachings, while it is exceedingly wonderful that many Chinese people have been lifted from crushing poverty in recent decades, the fact is that Wang Chongyang's teachings lend no credence to the notion that one might rightly use Daoism as a vehicle with which to pursue wealth. Quite to the contrary, he enforced poverty (amongst other privations) upon his disciples, in order to break them of attachment to comfort as well as their identities in society. For example, Ma Danyang and Sun Bu'er, while they were married, were what we might call landed gentry... rich and famous in their area. Most of the other disciples, except for Qiu, were not poor when they came to Wang, though he quickly made them relinquish their wealth and.status. After he had given up the worldly life for a period of years, Wang made Ma Danyang return to his former village as a beggar, knowing that his disciple's ego would flare up being forced to grovel before those who once knew him as a wealthy man. Qiu Chuji was similarly unfond of luxury, we are taught. There is a story, perhaps apocryphal but nevertheless indicative of how he is remembered, wherein an accomplished fortune teller eats in front of Qiu, who was begging bowl in-hand. The fortune teller says, "do not think I don't wish to share with you--I have given you no bread for your own good, as I can see you are a man who has, if he has eaten his fill at one meal, will then deprive himself and go hungry at several subsequent mealtimes in penance." If one reads Complete Reality teachings that touch on the topic of how to live one's daily life, one finds that poverty and privation were valued and enforced. To varying extents, many sincere monks and nuns (eg, Jia Ye, recently mentioned elsewhere; Zhang Zhishun) embody and even actively promote such lifestyles. That Wang Liping does not is precisely one of the reasons he enjoys a very complicated reputation. Be sure that "the Dao is not to be bought and sold" is an ethos that is still alive and well in China, even amongst some practitioners who grew up dirt poor, still are dirt poor, and will likely depart of this world still dirt poor. Those who wish to learn more about the lifestyles of the poor and righteous under Wang Chongyang may wish to consult the excellent "Teachings and Practices of the Early Quanzhen Masters," the contents of which may shock you. Wang was a fierce master at times.

Wang Liping is _a_ Longmen transmitter (albeit a controversial one), not _the_ transmitter. Because the Longmen school always boasted the greatest number of adherents today something like 70% of monks and nuns are members of this lineage. Many laypeople are, too. Nobody in China believes that Wang is the sole inheritor of the tradition. The White Cloud Monastery is indeed home to party functionaries and hangers on various, but be sure there are a small number of monks there reputed to be of great cultivation, up to this very day (nevertheless, getting to meet, recognize, and study with these fellows is not easy). Wu Baolin speaks of his master's passing in an issue of Qi Magazine which can be downloaded for free. I believe he said the passing made the newspapers of the day. If anybody knows the master's name, we can easily learn more about this event, as this kind of recent history will not have faded into obscurity so quickly. If anybody here can supply the name, I will look into it.

Goodness gracious, Deci Belle, goodness gracious!

I know him. Grandpa Jia, as people call him, is a beloved and much-visited figure on Wudang. He is generally said to have great virtue and some say his realization is very high. His lifestyle could perhaps be called semi-hermetic, since he lives, usually alone, in a cave-turned-temple, but he is not at all far from the tourist/pilgrim/administrative hub below that is the Purple Cloud Palace, as well as a bus stop five or fewer minutes' walk from his abode. From what I have seen of him, Jia does not claim to be over the age of 100. Neither do people on Wudang, including people who have known him for more than 30 years, make this claim. Furthermore, if one asked him, "are you over 100," he might say yes just to end the conversation. It is rude to ask Daoists their age and many won't have serious conversations about it. I have personally seen Jia involved in just such an exchange. As to what he actually practices, few know. He is not, from what I have seen, big on talking about about dao yin, nor detailing his own practice. As a matter of fact, the actual monastic Daoists on Wudang (and elsewhere) tend to be extremely cagey with respect to discussing their practice regimens. Of course, perhaps what he told you is different. Instead of specifics, Jia is more famous for talking about a rather "formless" form of practice, and for emphasizing being a compassionate, righteous human being all else being. His books and pamphlets are the same. As for that staircase, no I have not seen him fly up it, certainly not at speeds outpacing the many young, athletic kungfu students all over Wudang. My firsthand observation, also, is that he starts his day at 5, with prayer before Zhenwu. Maybe sometimes he wakes at 4 for daoyin, I don't know. Because of his great compassion and warm heart, Jia is quite famous and sometimes streams of visitors come all day. With or without his blessing, endless photographs are shot, videos taken, and questions asked. Jia seems to turn nobody away and graciously answers people's many questions. Frankly, because everybody wants to know a "hermit," he is often turned into something of a souvenir or curiosity. Also, because both Chinese and foreigners alike find the mystique of "Daoist hermit" so seductive, Jia's name and image are thrown around excessively, with, for example a charlatan Dragon Gate teacher in Beijing teaching supposedly Dragon Gate sexual practices in for money; this man claims to be teaching what Jia taught him, but also claims that he can best teach his female "disciples" by sleeping with them. Sigh. Since Jia makes few distinctions and allows anybody to photograph him and pose for photos with him--which is very kind-hearted of him--unfortunately he has no control over what happens when endless crowds of seekers and teachers of seekers make a stop at his cave a part of every travel itinerary. Thus he has been turned into a legend whilst still alive, with misinformation swirling accordingly. That fact is sad but merely a representation in the miniature of much larger.problems currently haunting Daoism. Finally, he has lost his teeth, which is a question of no small significance to alchemy practitioners and pursuers of longevity, rightly or wrongly. Vitalii, you obviously have your conflicts with others on this board and I am not posting this message because I have any opinions regarding that disagreement. However, you have posted misinformation and exaggerations about Jia, which is irresponsible and unfair to him and to readers of your website and this one.

I see you have finally begun rereading your posts after submitting them.

It is also said a the clocks in a clock store eventually all synchronize of their own accord, given enough time...

I am no electrician, but it strikes me that overanalyzing the above is not unlike the mistake of confusing Daoist discussions of mercury and lead for DIY pharmacology instructions (no lesser Quanzhen disciple than Ma Danyang warns against this) or thinking that all talk of kan and li is nonsense because that's not what fire and water really do when you shoot a squirtgun at the fireplace. I suppose if this thread ever enters the canon, a hundred years after we're all dead and gone a few poor fools will fry themselves by taking guitar amps apart to build enlightenment machines, trying to be just like Deci... whaddayagonnado? It pays not to miss the point, and the point, though I hesitate to speak for the OP, is not likely that the universe should be literally understood in the same way as that box on the side of your house. When terms that sound like chemistry, physics, and biology are thrown around in Daoist conversation, this does not often mean that that's what's really being spoken of, so a willing suspension of expertise is very useful. Ie, there is no need to perform any more experiments on the poor creatures to find out if tigers and dragons and toads and rabbits really are anatomically compatible, so please kindly return your labcoats to their hooks.

My apologies, I meant to ask is the mysterious female synonymous with the mysterious pass, but I think everybody got my meaning. To be honest, I was pretty sure what your answer would be, and more than anything was too attached to this post to see it languish without a single response. Deci Belle speaks very truthfully when she says, "please realize to even bring up this subject matter is not a casual affair." This is true. In some circles, this topic is not elaborated to the non-initiated; even in the monastic Quanzhen tradition no monks and nuns are guaranteed oral transmission on this subject and it might even be true nowadays that the majority do not get it, though I cannot say for sure. Believe it or not--I suspect that many or most won't--what Deci Belle is speaking of here is as august an affair as can be found in the Daoist tradition. I feel only just barely, barely, barely qualified to venture such a statement, and as such do not do so lightly. I realize that TTB has long been home to all manner of individuals claiming to various levels of enlightenment, and that consensus as to which have something real to offer and which have arrived to spout nonsense is unreachable. However, we can put questions of Deci Belle's accomplishment or lack thereof utterly to the side, and the fact remains that the content of this post is indispensible to the cultivator who is intent on seeing reality. And we should be grateful to even know that the topic exists, as I have seen people leave countries, learn languages, don funny hats, and spend years seeking the Dao without even knowing that this topic exists. In China, one finds many who hang a few pieces of calligraphy on the wall, stick a dashing Bodhidharma figurine on the mantle, and, the months quickly turning into years, wax daily poetic about where the raw materials for the incense were sourced from, or how this or that bygone cultivator achieved this or that supernatural feat, or the fact that so and so knows so and so master who can open your small heavenly circle in just three easy days. With breaks only to pee (green tea'll do that to you), the jabbering goes on for an eternity. The Tao Bums in the flesh, if you will. Such is certainly a fine and comfortable way to spend one's days, but only so long as one realizes that the irony of redecorating one's body, one's home, and one's mind with empty caricatures of realized saints and vacuous reiterations of their teachings is perhaps the most tragic irony available to sentient beings, and we certainly have plenty of ironies to choose from. A starving man who melts down the key to the grain store so that he might cast a stainless steel sandwich for his charm bracelet is an even lesser fool. And yet most of what one finds here is charm bracelets and cooing over charm bracelets--very little grain for the belly. I cannot speak for her, but my suspicious is that Deci Belle, in a display of a compassion not many will understand, would find no greater joy than in seeing a few of us finally see the games we play for what they are. And yes, were we so lucky that it would actually wake one of us up, she might even be so kind as to deliver a physical blow, but be clear, you who would titter cleverly over this matter, that this blow, as with those of the Chan and Zen masters who employed such methods, has nothing to do with the work of a dominatrix. After all, the dominatrix's employer thrills at the sting of every strike, but there are few here, especially amongst the tongue-wagging core of enthusiastic mega-posters, who have even the remotest desire to be smacked out of his dream. Anyway, that is enough talking for me.

Deci Belle, I don't know if you are familiar with the Chinese term 玄关 (xuan guan, sometimes translated as "the mysterious pass" or "the mysterious portal"), but if so, is what you speak of here synonymous with "the mysterious female?"