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I am well stocked. That absolves Trump of nothing. You lack skill in logical reasoning. Don't be intellectually lazy, trying to hide behind passable eloquence and habitual sophistry. Most can see though this, even if you can't.

Edited for the petulant man baby. See above. You did not respond to my post. Do you not understand what a presidency is?

Vapid. @Stosh, I'ma add to that, let you chew on your stupidity for an extra minute while you percolate in your stale breath in your little protective face diaper: The financial transactions upon which eBay relies, the internet itself, the electricity upon which it and your computer run, the reasonable expectation that in a first world country you can buy masks they are not fake and which perform as promised, the technology in your computer, the postal service, the roads and airways through which your precious purchase reach you... NONE of these things works without a functioning executive branch. And you know this--and I know that you know that I know deep down you know this--even as your are already thinking up the next snide little half-assed deflection that you will try to tell yourself counts as an intelligent riposte. Don't be one of those crackers who drives along in a car he can't repair with a fat belly full of food he can't grow on a road the government built listening to Rush Limbaugh and slamming the steering wheel as he praises himself for being a self made man. And if those masks you got off eBay turn out to be useless fakes, oh well, you should have audited the factory and managed QC yourself. After all, anything less is clearly pathetic reliance on a nanny state. Shitbird.

That is a truly idiotic response from a man who fancies himself a bit of a deep thinker. You evidently do not understand what the presidency is.

Guo is an annoying egomaniac crackpot rich boy with more agendas than I can count, so I don't trust his stats and "facts." (Nor do I wholly write them off, either) But I'm prone to believe the general gist of what's on the Twitter link Heartbreak just posted. The "lie to juke stats, to reduce inconvenience to the hospital, to get patients to transfer or check themselves out, to keep the in-hospital death rate numbers low, to publish scientific papers of no scientific value, to satisfy one's boss, to satisfy the Party" habits and even protocols were already firmly established in China's medical system long before covid. They were a part of my training in Beijing and Shanghai. They also almost killed me (that is not hyperbole... I am speaking of misdiagnosed appendicitis leading to undiagnosed peritonitis, a result of incompetence and not giving a shit) in Shanghai in 2011 and almost made a potentially catastrophic infection much worse in Beijing in 2010 (a department chair doctor refused to do a bacterial culture and prescribed me antibiotics for a chronic infection; he became angry when I asked for a culture and refused to order one, saying I should not come see experts if I do not trust experts; I had to go through guanxi simply to get this culture done on my own dollar at another hospital; it turned out to be MRSA, totally resistant to the drug the "expert" had prescribed). Even the "look at our amazing recovery rates using herbs" reports need to be viewed with extreme circumspection. Propagandists never sleep, in the the PRC, in the US, anywhere. Only difference is, some countries have checks and balances, and others have checkmate.

@Gerard As you should know, since you love to hand out TCM herb advice here, the Shanghanlun (for those who don't know, that is the foundational herbal medicine treatise in Chinese medicine, still used today) was written during the Han dynasty by Zhang Zhongjing because there was a terrible epidemic that killed 1/3 of his family. Considering that people 2,000 years ago in China obviously did not have modern lifestyles, this indicates: Epidemics are obviously not closely linked to thinking too much, the "collective unconscious," the modern mind "going too far," etc. Be realistic.

I hate to say it, but the channel I saw doing this is called 中天. It is well-known to be under the influence of the CCP, and it serves to spread a pro-Beijing message in Taiwan. It actively seeks to undermine faith in the Taiwanese government and economy while either gushing about how wonderful the PRC is, or simply ignoring important stories about what is going on in China (unless that story happens to be "Compassionate Uncle Xi did something glorious"). The evening broadcast I was referring to was blaring in a restaurant three nights ago (中天 pays owners of small eateries to install their TVs on the walls, and cuts off payment if the channel is changed), cycling through panic-inducing "Europe and North America are collapsing" stories with horror movie music in the background. Luckily, although the CCP throws unimaginable amounts of money into projects like this, they are not very effective in Taiwan, where a solid majority of the population can see that 中天 and other compromised media outlets are crap. The image I uploaded comes from a 2019 anti-CCP-propaganda rally in downtown Taipei last summer. It was very well attended (And I doubt everybody was there because the CIA or the Brookings Inst gave them five bucks and a sandwich, or because they wish for a return to the Opium Wars... )

Vigilance is good, but your recent posts strike me as bordering on panicky, Spotless. This is a scary time and the US is far from living up to anybody's ideals, but I do not think that talk of legions of Americans champing at the bit to start "making ovens" (if you are referring to the Holocaust) reflects reality. Where I live the nightly news broadcasts about covid have started to play horror movie music in the background, and the people who watch such channels are predictably on-edge. It might be a good idea to reduce media intake and reconnect with community and nature more, if possible, if the sky seems to be falling. Two other things... Honestly, the question of whether Saudia Arabia or Red State America are better or worse than China is really quite immaterial to the questions of what is wrong with the CCP and its international propaganda initiatives. Arsons and burglaries are both "bad." One does not react to an act of arson by asking, "well, is it really worse than burglary?" Secondly, the militias you fear are 85% morbidly obese and have bad enough atherosclerosis to make it look like there's Skippy extra chunky lining the walls of their arteries. They can't live without their Netflix and cell phone service, which happen to be brought to them by nerdy coastal "elites." Just put nails on the roads. After their tires burst, they're not gonna get out of their minivans to chase you. They'll stay in their cars bitching into their cameras for YouTube, chugging energy drinks, and polishing the phallic symbols that stand in for the flaccid little penii that dangle somewhere behind their fupas...

You could forgive it for buying a whole lot of toilet paper. I am reminded of a couplet by Mr. West, Nice as Bun-B when I met him at the Source awards. Girl, he had with him, ass coulda' won the horse awards...

That's been clear since the 1980s. It's a matter of common sense not to trust anything that man says. Nothing much has changed since he was inaugurated, except that now he is challenged by a real disaster, and he's surrounded mostly by sycophants, having slowly weeded out the spineful. Yes, always. There are many problems. But as the Atlantic article I just linked to reminds--and in the spirit of this post--let us count our blessings and recall what hasn't happened in the US: No doctors or journalists have been jailed, disappeared, threatened, or otherwise punished for trying to talk about coronavirus No citizen-run online avenues for discussing the virus and problems of society & government at large have been shut down (TDB would have been shut down or gutted long ago in the CCP if it was hosted there and in Chinese; with the coronavirus, all threads like this would have been shut down, and Sean would have been threatened and punished if he did not prevent new ones from opening) We have access to information from all manner of formal and informal channels. We are not forced to accept a single official narrative and source of statistics about the virus's progression. We can gather information from a number of academic, journalistic, and public health outlets, and attempt to make our own judgments. There is no equivalence between a dysfunctional democracy and a totalitarian state. May we all make the best of the advantages we enjoy in order to protect our own health and that of those around us, without succumbing to the craven notion that liberties need be sacrificed for safety.

Lol, sure, a good quote if you admit that you're one of the monkeys, too. I've got a better quote for you, from the great poet Chino XL: Battling Chino is like Africa N****z talk about it But they don't really wanna go there Holler at me after you've lived under the CCP's rule for four or five years. I look forward to hearing you tell me how green that grass still is.

China is Avoiding Blame by Trolling the World @SirPalomides: China Spins Tale that the US Army Started the Coronavirus Epidemic

Exactly... Cancer and respiratory illness rates there are through the roof. There have been famous stories in China in recent years of poor fools "lifting themselves from poverty" and buying iPads by selling kidneys. It's like a metaphor for what the country has done. Not just selling... There has even been forced smoking! In 2009, the authorities of Gongan County attempted to increase consumption of locally produced cigarettes, by demanding that local officials smoke up to 23,000 packs of Hubei-branded cigarettes per year. This measure was intended to bring much-needed revenue to local enterprise; quotas were issued by county authorities to offices under its jurisdiction, which in turn were fined if they failed to consume the demanded quota of cigarettes, or if they were found purchasing other brands of tobacco products. This decision was reversed after public outcry and coverage by international press. I remember that story, because I was in China when it unfolded, and it was during the brief period of sunlight when the Chinese press started to be able to act like a fourth estate. It was local media that first reported it, and international media that made an uproar that forced the ending of this ridiculous abuse of power. Before it ended, they were inspecting ashtrays placed on all government employees' desks, and disciplining those who did not smoke or smoked cigarettes from other provinces. Xi's suborning of the PRC press in 2017 and the recent expulsion of foreign reporters bode ill for the Chinese people, who in fact have often benefited from the presence of watchful eyes from around the world. Note what province that was in, by the way. A mere 11 years ago. Many of the same fools are still in power there. Their Faustian bargain. The CCP wants the fruits of the creativity that can only flourish when there is a relatively free society and an education system whose main purposes are not brainwashing and control. They also want total control over how the fruits of creativity are used. Now they want to promote this "way" around the world.

Real health is sustainable. The PRC's way is not. It is rooted in the destruction of the environment, a gigantic real estate bubble, continuing exploitation of China's hundreds of millions of poor despite their improved lots, and pervasive corruption. It is great that people's life expectancies and standards of material living have improved. But if you think that that is enough to cancel out the word "monstrosity" while 1,000,000+ Uighurs languish in gulags and 0 Uighurs enjoy civil rights... And while 0 Han can get away with criticizing Xi Jinping in even the most scholarly of terms... ... Then I suggest you fly a plane to Beijing and experiment directly with the situation there by walking in front of Zhongnanhai with a sign on a picket calling for unfettered religious freedom for Daoists as an experiment. Hell, just go there and register a public Weibo account and start talking about the rights you enjoy in America and asking why Chinese people can't have them. Good for them for ending famines, seriously. But... Trains ran on time under Hitler. I have heard that there was a great genteel culture in the antebellum South. This shit gets mass killers and destroyers of civilizations a pass? The PRC has some real accomplishments under its belt. The country is far from lifted. All those nice restaurants a tourist can banquet in while marveling at how rich China is now? The opulent massage spa palaces one can go to afterwards? The hotel one can retire to at last, feted and relaxed? The rank and file workers in all of them--from Beijing, Beijing to Buttfuck, Yunbei--mostly live packed in dorms, often literally underground. I have been invited into such grim spaces, which are often enough a short walk from China's empty skyscrapers, which could house 3+ billion. Let the hundreds of millions of menial laborers who fill the dorms try to unionize or collectivize in any way so as to demand, simply, high enough wages to be able to afford to rent their own bedrooms. Jail or worse awaits them. The CCP indeed holds itself responsible for lifting them up, and reserves the right to crush them back down. That sounds like CCP talking points. Wait, those are CCP talking points--"it's either the CCP or armageddon, and the evil US/Japan/whoever want us to have armageddon. Dear citizen: choose one." I agree with Moment that you are erecting too many strawmen in this thread. Deep reform is possible without collapse. If the CCP merely followed its own constitution, its citizenry would be infinitely better off. Also, you do not possess a crystal ball. I know several front line HK protesters quite well. Most simply want basic civil liberties, human rights, and suffrage. If anything, I find them overly uninterested in the fate of the CCP and PRC at large. Those in HK who would like the CCP to disappear also happen to reflect the feelings of millions of Chinese, in addition to the hostile as well as friendly foreign forces which may or may not have other goals. Not all who would like to see the people who brought us the Cultural Revolution, the Tiananmen Square massacre, the destruction of Tibet and Xinjiang, the oppression of Falun Gong, the Let A Hundred Flowers Bloom campaign, and the criminalizing of the Wuhan doctors who attempted to warn the world about covid leave power are attempting to orchestrate some racist, anti-Chinese master plan. You simply aren't qualified to say that. Who knows what could bloom if that country allowed opposition to "the Party." Progress, after all, often starts with constructive criticism. I call bullshit. There are many in the west and the east who would love to see a China where humans are treated like humans. Saying I can't call the CCP a monstrosity is like saying I can't call the US's carceral state a monstrosity because some prisoners reform, some criminals are kept off the street, some inmates find Jesus, prisons provide tens of thousands of jobs, and there is no alternative. Fuck that.

Bullshit. I do not want to see drones patrolling ANY country.

To believe that the covid pandemic did not explode as a result of the mendacity, cruelty, and incompetence (at anything but propaganda, social control, and state violence) endemic to the CCP's style of governance would be supremely naive. To believe the statistics the CCP offers about the spread of covid within its borders, especially with regards provinces other than Hubei, would be supremely naive. To believe that the WHO is not being unduly influenced by political pressure being exerted by the CCP would be quite naive. The current head's comments have been laughable for months. The Ethiopian government literally outsourced parts of its administration to the Chinese government several years ago. I don't have the time to try and figure out how that affects the WHO's current chair's proclamations; I decided to start taking them with a grain of salt (or, rather, ignoring them) before Wuhanese doctors started dying. To believe that the explosion of covid within US borders is not a result of the mendacity, cruelty, and incompetence endemic to the Trump administration's style of governance would be supremely naive. These are not questions of blame. Where you point your fingers will not unseat any leaders or disinfect any surfaces. But exercising as much discernment as possible may decrease your chances of throwing in your lots with liars, fools, and monsters, and help you to make wiser decisions about which surfaces need to be disinfected, so to speak. Finally, one may criticize the monstrosity that is the Chinese Communist Party without having any desire to see China return to the dire straits it was in after the Opium Wars. I would love to see a strong, healthy China. What exists now is not a strong healthy China, although hundreds of millions of RMB are spent each year to maintain that illusion.

《太上感應篇》 《清靜經》

That is actually more honest, except of course you can only teach a fraction of what John taught, and no more than 2.7% of the whole Mo Pai system. You act as though there are only two choices. You could make up a totally original name. "The Introductory Mohist Neigong Preservation Society," [email protected]. Be creative. Or keep calling yourselves Mo Pai, And keep dealing with threads like this. Your choice...

Yawn.

That is neither here nor there. Do you or do you not refer to yourselves as the "Mo Pai?"

Right. And in the Chinese arts, legitimate student (學生) is never mistaken for disciple (徒弟、弟子、門生). Disciple is never mistaken for lineage holder (傳人) or inheritor of teaching responsibilities (接班人). You guys are a long way from being able to legitimately call yourselves "Mo Pai." Nobody can or will stop you, but we can always remind you. Good. One day when you are more mature you will see why it would be a wise, honest, and noble thing to do to pick a more accurate name for your club.

You already admitted they were not formally inducted into the 墨派. Stop obfuscating, or the Bulls jerseys come back out, slam dunky.

Don't forget the other problem that you graciously admitted to after 40+ pages, which is that nobody in your club was a formal disciple in the late John Chang's lineage, and nor were any of your teachers. Since "pai" (派) means lineage and indicates formal initiation, this means that saying "Mo Pai" is actually a misnomer if you try to use it to describe what you and your friends are practicing.

At first I did not know what the OP was about. We weren't trained about such things in Area 51 when I was young. But then I did a little Googling. I can officially confirm, as a member of the Dark Government Agency, I have to agree, we do find these rainbow bodies very threatening--we feel threatened by the distinct and urgent need to dance, and then dance some more, until all the heartbreak in the world is gone. P.S., I can't be sure but if you wanted me to make a professional CIA guess I'd say there's a high chance some of those guys are Semen Practitioners, but you never know till you ask em...