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------ get your drift. posted a lengthy response that a new firefox alert chased away. I forgot to mention the sweet qigong water the grandmasters are making, what do you know of this Taomeow? is there saccarids involved? I've been wondering if there is some connection btw natural oils, being "liquid consisting of a complex mixture of hydrocarbons of various molecular weights, and other organic compounds, and how will the oil and groce amount of plastic pollution already in our oceans influence our organisms? ("The hydrocarbons in crude oil are mostly alkanes, cycloalkanes and various aromatic hydrocarbons while the other organic compounds contain nitrogen, oxygen and sulfur, and trace amounts of metals such as iron, nickel, copper and vanadium" "Two petrochemical classes are olefins including ethylene and propylene, and aromatics including benzene, toluene and xylene isomers. Oil refineries produce olefins and aromatics by fluid catalytic cracking of petroleum fractions. Chemical plants produce olefins by steam cracking of natural gas liquids like ethane and propane. Aromatics are produced by catalytic reforming of naphtha. Olefins and aromatics are the building blocks for a wide range of materials such as solvents, detergents, and adhesives. Olefins are the basis for polymers and oligomers used in plastics, resins, fibers, elastomers, lubricants, and gels.") Are we slowly turning into cyborgs? from what I've heard millions have already implanted or injected silicon.. how will this influence our ability to perform alchemical process? ahem. feeling silly.

Taomeow, this is an intensely fascinating subject that instantly makes me tense up, which I try to avoid,, so I will post quickly and resume to my calm silent work. I assume there are several taoists on the board with chemical expertise, all I want to say is; What were your sources on this info? Would you care to share them with us? (There has been discussed numerous variants of water, connected to taoist alchemy, we have the fusing of water and fire from Chia and other systems, ..one speaks of the Water method with the cool downwards flow..there is the ether/moist/vapour following qigong & primordial breathing.. in my experience I have now mentioned atleast two different kinds of water..then there is the water that is produced in the brain that Drew talks about in the bigu thread. I don't know if the distillation of nectar would count here?) ok. withdrawing now.

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Nevermind I mis interpreted the word but I still am deeply insulted I will probably be insulted at least for one loong week. and the fart gonna do you good snort

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I have smelled this "If you don't think as I do " energy from you a loong time now. I would NEVER chose you as a teacher just because of this. If the choochootrain of moderators are a comin to kick me out again they sure should chop your head off for choosing to gravely insult a fellow taobum as well

well..........The charge lasts about a week, this is similar to what people w water machines experence when ionizing and alkalizing water. After this, the Structure remains, the smaller cluster groups of ionized water means more complex crystal structure, a deeper 'imprint' if you will, the benifits from structured ionized water being super hydration and an increased sense of well being due to being properly hydrated. Transmitting universal information? to structured water would mean the already superior (pre atmosphere?) water has imprinted into it's memory (molecular organization) these universal harmonics. THis I do not understand what is pre atmosphere water (clean water from a whell?) Interesting theory, if you sat around in a cloudy mood w a glass of water next to you, when you drink it, would you be reminded of what you resonate? Likewise you receive harmonically structured water, get home from the post office and set it ontop of your sons loudspeaker blasting heavy metal .... Probably won't have the same effect. exactly..so..; I should be able to ship in a small Faraday Sheilding (similar to shipping electronics) which prevents exposure to EMF poolusion, and Sound Proof barrier would Hermetically seal it. Very good. So good water, treat it like mailing a disk? No xrays?

Good. Well if fac ..what did you say again..if I was being Facetious..or not..? MM.. YaMuyou are to slick for me. I guesswhat YaMu is saying is..something like..all fascists areidiots and being an idiot you are fascist? Right no? Your answer was meagre. I am not offended. This was not smart enough.Ther is a lot we don't know about alot of things andyou have in my eyes belittled yourself. " As th Phytons say "I fart in your general direction" and you should feel honored

I take that as a sign from your subconscious that you doubt the ...the...profoundity of IT*S potential bottled?

water it's us 70% can anyone tell me since soulthings and sacred healing and spirituality seems to be tuned & gonged & targeted, vibrated, aligned with particular chakras, meridians, pathways btw organs.. just how do you stir water to make one particular student, say colonally content? what exactly did you do?! and when gonging the emoto into the water, do we buy..compassion, calmness, happiness, emphaty or is there one concoction that alchemically alignes to the individual needs? how long doeswater keep memory? like ...Love fex. :0) will it be forever charged or will a wave in a bag when someone bumps into you and your purchased remedy on the tube neutralize it into extinction? should one need a crash course or ten, some chinese medicine and a tuning fork to ensure stable success? So many questions. So much to learn.I am so curious to learn.

de_paradise I believe you are accurate on this. Also being able to read the karmic patterns can be as you put it a sinister trap - a neverending tricky maze. Compassion and help is also tricky very tricky. One should be so lucky as to actually be doing good

thinking..rather than flow better say qi working on the whole making you feel like flow

Raymond Wolter If you pose the question like this I have to say No. My personal route was from hatha yoga to tkd, and tkd introduced ZZ. I re encoutered the ZZ stance in qigong, less heavy, but the combination of neigong and heavy static luohan stances released hormones in my blood that led to involuntary movements when "locked and circulated" in the ZZ. Kunlun came so much later. I was trained by then and used to standing spontaneous reactions, so the strain in the sittting poses (for those who never trained ZZ) and groupmechanics didn't get to me. To me it looked like the announced powerful reactions kunlun initiated in a few was a mix of expectations, groupsynergy (read grouphysteria) and weak untrainedd legmusculature. But I am such a sceptic. I see spontaneous as an outcome of another qigong practise, as qiflow working in a closed circuit.

there is a world of difference between the symptomatic shaking caused by release of adrenalin through your bloodvesselsand caused by the strain initial strain of ZZ, and the slow development and later stage of embryonic unvoluntarily muscular contractions mounting in the same stance. ZZ is the pot where to simmer. What is to be boring with spontaneous I cannot fathom because spontaneous is always fresh. That is the essence of spontaneous. THat said it often does contain recognizeable curves and angles but if done correctly it is themost effective method to locate and dissolve blocages. Amusician or a painter often has a personal signal. the same thing. andalways seeking to expand.

I really wouldn't know Ya Mu since our qigong grandmaster taugt us tofocus on the hands and heart. Only later in Darkness Retreat at Tao Garden was I told by some teachers that Castaneda used a method likethis. I do like sacredness. I adore my toes But you know the heart IS kind of special.

I really wouldn't know Ya Mu since our qigong grandmaster taugt us tofocus on the hands and heart. Only later in Darkness Retreat at Tao Garden was I told by some teachers that Castaneda used a method likethis. I do like sacredness. I adore my toes But you know the heart IS kind of special.

You also practise kunlun, is that what you are saying? Kunlun to me was a integrative system designed and taught by Max. Have you been instructed by him or are you copying the instructionsfromthe book? I could give you my answer, andI think your pretty close BUT I am not the founder of any of your systems so I would advice you to discussthese questions with your various teachers before you decide on what is similar and can be replaced...or not.

I had to google to be sure youwere not referring to the qigong system Zhan zhuang http://www.chi-kung.no there seems to be so many systems and it can be rather confusing to answer even simple questions due to this. BUT I would say that if your reference is to the classical standing post that is a basicrequirement in most martial arts and qigong systems, your list of threesomes seems just perfect to me. I have a similar list myself, and serious zz training has rooted and strengthened me to the point of initiating embryonic breathcycles. I do follow a medical qigong system which is successively built up on nei gong for the twelve ordinary meridians luohan gongfor the eight extraordinary meridians and kong jing for those truly dedicated.. to put it simple. I am therefore combining neigong and luohan gong every day, since it is like returning, strenghtening basic foundation while steadily adding extrordinary angles. But all in one qigong teaching system. http://www.qigongacademy.no/om-waq Meditation is not a part of the qigong system. It is my personal practise. But I have come to realize that without the meditation everything else would have muchless effect. THis system is a logic successive system where the exercises and poses build upon each other, therefore it would be unneccessary to add another system But ..ascurious as I am..and this system takes years to finish..I do check out other systems as well, it gives me a better understanding of why and what works.

Very good YaMu I know you were speaking of your practise when you referred to the impossible therefore I felt compelled to share the possible practise my way :0) and with all respect the hands and heart are important:) but its impossible to describe why in my practise ;0) and yes dogs are

Certainly not so from my point of experience. I was told to look & consentrate on my handsbefore I fell asleep and make a mental note/descision/intent to recontact my hands when dreaming. I woke up in my dream as I was washing my hands. And could recollect the dream afterwards remembering the astonishment of keeping and succeeding with my intent of lucid dreaming. My hands were the first thing I looked at when I woke up the next morning and they were glowing with a fine red hue. Later I was told that C. Castaneda knew of this way. shrug but I aint selling nothing Ah, One last thing. You make the intent then place it in your heart

very good intentions. thank you

call the local municipality and WWF, volunteer to join. they need people, make them admit it.

the problem is all the talking all the aces sitting

This is a forum with many great thinkers, great insights and sharing of information, One year ago I took a couple of phones urging the government to make use of plain citizens cleaning up the disasterous oil polluting our coastlines. No simple task to convince them but fortunately they had hundreds of similar calls. I did post the event here, no one seemed to notice. The people of Nigeria have long time waded in the toxinsand eaten deadly fish from BP's oilspill. But ironically it never seems to reach the news. I admit the military's and civilians first feeble attempts to clean the shores in Norway was a grim farce. Now all our rescue tools and resources are at your coastlines, and we are if anything should happen at this very moment, far worse off with less protection than one year ago, no politicians have even bothered to answer the official letter written by the major in the insulted county, asking for a conlusion of the matter. Silence. He askes what have we lerned, what are the imprved strategies? Nothing. Silence. And why is this? So many people including politicians are tied and tangled by their purchased oil-shares, by their business interests. They are aware of the competing cheap sanded oil and aware of the fact that oil is running out and determined to sacrifice even more of our pristine norhtern coastlines to ensure that our country stays afloat while EU and the rest sink. Even if the government can give NO guarantees that this will not happen again. Hardboiled businessmen believe the capitlist system has come to its end, and what we are seeing is a hoarding mentality.