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thank you eversomuch now I can get on with the business listening contemplating and hopefully meditatating again

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This sounds right. Can you describe how you came to this realisation?

thank you for your questions. Enlightenment of course. Since I am not to bright yet. Hehe. Gaining good healthy energy and not pollute my surroundings. I practise "sitting and forgetting" I have described the concrete steps earlier if you look up my earlier posts. no mantra. no teacher. just a doing that came as a natural response to a wish to balance the flow of energy between mind, body and emotion. For a start. I am very thankful for the silence that "arrived". But I now find I am clinging to this experience, and am full of "shit" wishing it to reappear, thinking it now a "copy", nothing ever is the same bla.bla. and trying to control everything. And I dont like that and feel I need guidance. I guess I am just repeating this "mindfuck" that I do so "well". (excuse my language). And that I should resume to my task. I was searching for a way to calm down the stress and mental chatter. Uderstanding that there is a world, - literally, between mentally grasping something and physically forming it. Seing that I have continously fought with constructing and deconstructing in my artwork, it has been madly uncomfortable to be stuck between these energetic polarities. Thus I have been naturally drawn to the concept of physically experience these polarities and search for a way to merge them So forget the enlightenment and bright health for the time being, and focus on babysteps...I am not quite sure what I am after. I just think I am once again stuck And I believe I am on the right track here when it comes to discipline, and yes it appeared to me yesterday standing under a pinetree, breathing its energy that what I was asking for was right there in its stillness. But I believe there is a tradition, of very detailed training, and that there are mature people who have done this traing and are capable passing it on to a student.

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wonder full healingwords I believe in listening

Thanks to rex who posted this link http://dalailama.com/news.116.htm under upcoming events I read this; His Holiness praises the following verses for their essential meaning: "Whatever is dependently arisen That is explained to be emptiness. That, being a dependent designation Is itself the middle way. Since there is no phenomenon That is not dependently arising, There is no phenomenon That is not empty (of true existence)."

roger i`ll try to copy that love thanks for keeping a firm grip on the steering wheel

" i finally got my head toghether, now my ass is falling apart" is this a good description of the path? or is this just judgement too? ass versus head/nature versus intellect, material verus spirit??? IT MAKES ME SICK TO DEATH i ask because i am still in a very intense dialoge with my body. my body wich seems to carry so many stories. so many stories that i can listen to and let go. seems like endless, almost like decades of lifes... tiresome tiresome kicking wanting attention voices utterances sounds rings of vibration i hate i hate this "love" like a fish clinging to the hook. am i harsh? no i am not i am not.

..........."there is but a hairs' breath between you and i"............ heart goes thump thump nostalgica.

Wonderful. thank you.

"Zhan Zhuang strengthens the stablizer muscles." EXACTLY!!, i have been trying to tell this too !! "...only I ...only thought ...only material..." but "i" "think" em miracles!!!

thak you both for responding. i dont have a meditation-teacer. as yet. "If there was a witnessing of silence, there was still a witnesser, and thus something to discriminate which creates the idea of the witnesser and the silence being witnessed." yes so true but may be discrimination came when looking back at the incident? still... consiousness in this state...hmm..this is interesting, felt like my essence. like "yes sure i am - HA HA". so there definitely was sense of "I" far out actually. undisturbed by reaction to any thing. like i already know everything i need to know. peace. like it would all come to me when i choose to direct consentrated consoiusness towards it. no need to worry. maybe i was witnessing my belief in my "self", witnessing the raw material, most constant notion of self? i wonder if "self-notion" ever will become star-dust.. peace and love and wonder rain

hello fatherpaul i just wonder. what do you define "thinking" to be? i "think"is so hard to express in words. hard to be precise. accurate. when i was deep in meditation. mind stopped "attaching" to concepts. it went blank, silent. i sat for 45 minutes for almost a year before this happened. with blank i mean i did finnally succed to not "go with"/follow or co-create "scenes and scenarios"in my mind. it was like something eventually gave in. mind shut up, but conscoiusness still witnessed silence. tell me your opinion, was i thinking/producing this silence? (an horrifying, though amusing thought...)

i have a similar experience it quickly became my favourite position i qigong. having used a similar stance i tkd, i realized how it was much more effective to stand still for long periods of time. it is fun to hear about the friend you could not lift. my youngest son, got in the position and was immediately heavy as stone. impossible to lift from the ground. i believe many children have a natural balance and less energy-blockages, thus less imbalance? than adults. it is fascinating.

You can't grow a tree overnight, nor can you set a time frame on how long it takes to grow one. Of course, too, that tree never stops growing, does it? Neither do you. Maybe that's what I mean... yes

exactly what do you refer to by the term TREMENDOUS long term effort ? a year be sufficient? how stubborn are you? it is a matter of leaving behind the maddening illusion of having to cling to context. you will still have a consciousness, resting pre context. the illusion of in-built opposition between paradoxes is just as out of date as Einsteins theory of relativity. it IS quiet.

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Thought, like a Spear thrown. Soon you`ll be There Faithfully I rest in Good Intentions beyond Good Sense Breathe Air, Breathe Life in the Laughter of Emptiness

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