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! wow this was in fact very touching and not at all too far out..in fact I recognize many of these things in my own experience but I am not advanced I think just instinctive and extremely curious in fact one could say; "rain rain go away come again some other day" literally

The wind blows the birds (5) sing the hands, circle the mind (7) fade away cloud fade (5) <3

norwegian & romantic <3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOXhg4aVUkM&feature=PlayList&p=2F5AFD6372A4C3C5&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=6

Seems so.

sniff sniff

Delighted ! Then I may ad something that crossed my mind..maybe Multiple personality..or the multiple self. Have you read the book? What if he is when going quiet, just attending the conference of his multiple selves having a cool discussion and reentering with the democratic conclusion of this debate? I've been hesitant of the expression "We are One" but I am warming up to "We are in One." And let me make it totally clear I am not speaking of this man per se. I am speaking in general.

"Do you think this is a static or a dynamic image?" ----------- yes. Joe.. Must admit I freak out and get totally frustrated by this image. It is so dear to my heart. It is haunting me. My mind starts activating all sorts of varying flashanimations. I see this model like Joe describes it with totally overlapping images exept they are simultaneous and diametrical in direction as a result of intital movement/intent. The friction from movement results in electric activity and when the opposing electrical forces created by opposing centrifugal movement is dense or intense enough it causes a connection a binding which transforms into a amplified magnetitism. the electric current goes from kaos into more order and finally alignment and in this process there is a switch as like when some fluid matter suddenly turns solid, it forms through magnetization.Then the form goes from chordlike or stringlike to tubeform developing into a void tunnel.. Why is this representation of energy so intensely important to me? My intellect is not built for understanding Joes mathematical equations. All I can do is feel myself into a kinestetic visual model and I streeeetch the imaginative feel. Yes I can watch Alex Grays art or listen to whomever describing the macro and micro tubes and columbs, all I see is an image of us humans, an image of you and me. And feel like a helpless idiot.

Thank you for showing us this person speaking and reflecting, and your thoughts shared after seeing it are most interesting. I too reacted like; " what's with the orange cape, and why does he sound like he's out of breath..?" (and he does appear a little like Marlon Brando ) I used to speak like that, like how freeform describes it, and still do from time to time. Does it indicate anything? Obesity? Retardesness, Sensitivty, Profoundness? Stroke? Wisdom? Detatchment? Or perhaps an over average Engagement? Or an active use of the subconscious mind? Also the info of the subconscious being 4 times slower than conscious mind was news to me. Thank you! I've experienced that movement steered by subconsciousness is slow and recorded it. It also has a flowlike nature, so this makes sense. perhaps. And doing it I seem to be out of breath on occations.. hahaha. somehow this all seems really funny. like nice funny. why is that? hahaha.thanks again. much love.

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nonsense. rocks love water.- LoVe water. I love biting but I don't need to. Why is this reminding me of my initial not written post or maybe I did write it. some things are the dream most things are not dont like your garden but you've got nice trees.

that was one dry garden. where's the water. coming soon? my, that was MANY words for a nosetip hopefully one may sit together for some nosetipcontemplation soon?

I like that hagar .. ..................."Sneaky Soul" "Watcher in The Rye".

Yes. Very exiting Thank you. Way beyond me, but I'm still curious. Could you please explain this process in detail; "a blatent violation of the law of conservation of energy but it is the, hate this word, zero point ether energy aiding the split so if one could accuratly, which they cant, measure all the enrgy coming into the system interdimensionally." I thought ether was made during a certain spiritual stage. Are you saying that zero point ether is a component acting like a catalyst in the splitting of water into hydrogen and oksygen? Why would I aspire to this myself being 70% water?

Push ups, and pull ups, and allsorts of different wonderful exercises that stimulate deep muscle tissue and nerves around arms, shoulders, chest, neck, upper and lower back. As we know every movement can be done either speedy or slow, repeatedly or just a few times..with more or less friction. I do light weights many repetitions. I'm down to 10 12 pushups, because I've swithced trainingregime. Due to a broken collarbone that never healed evenly I've been lucky to learn how to stimulate the blood and energy flow in the area. THe exercises are done successively from the waist and up to the neck. Doing them rather slow with a slight stretch in the end with good harmonius breatwork feels extremely pleasing. I start my day with joint roll qigong exercises that work on the body both "internally" and "externally" and really gets the energy flowing, through spiralmovements but also "externally" by brushing along the meridians on the body's outer surface (can be done even some inches outside the body) We used to do pushups at tkd. Some of the moving qigongexercises we do, like "grinding the mill" (esp. good for the lungs), are still challenging because it is done so smoothly and slowly, and a movement is wisely done while contacting your physical centre, which again I suppose is best recognized psychically if you are comfortably breathing.

nevermind about thusness... this I understand. makes me cry. it is huge fundamental thank you for sharing hagar.

hi Hagar. I read this and suddenly think; I never really understood "thus-ness" is the mountain "it"?

For the first time I hear something that resonates with tuning into sickness energy. Will you be speaking more of this "system of the insect"?

Interested. Could you draw a quick scetch of the four sexes instead of two, or should I read the book?

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I sincerely disagree with those who say "watch". I say "mentally ignore, -drop everything". drop index fingering. roll over play dead.

stillness. empty of concepts. no thing. the mind is still. no movement. if you do not understand that we are not in disagreement you have never experienced it just heard about it and have a mental idea of it still stuck in the concept. the source that is able to form and to materialize everything all you have to do is ask but then you start everything again and fill up but this is just a beginner stage probably. ;-) because then there must be a someone asking right? an awareness that is forming a question? stillness in mind is not brainactivity. it can be detected by, but IS not. Mind can be stilled and the brain still active with different waves, of course.

no.. brain dead. is a brain dead. mind still. is just empty. :-) your mind is not your brain. you just said it yourself. in the retention thread.

NO empty is more than relaxed or better say less it is without concept uten innhold beyond debate also

There is a distinction between " watching them" and " ignoring them" Watching must not lead to entertaining. So I would rather say acknowledge but do not feed or follow. It is like a platter with cookies. Or a conversation Do not reach for it :-) or start chatting. If this is hard for you just realize, you may have or do. have or do whatever. Later. Release. And it becomes unimportant and fades out of mind. Compulsory behavior. Postpone gratification and make little pockets of emtiness... You can also return to breathing and sink down to lower chakra. I make a distinct effort to separate the - contemplation and the - meditation.