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I just got back from meditating in the mountains for 3 days and I saw that a Shang Ch'ing Brother had left me numerous voice mails saying that I should look TTBs right away... I also saw that I had received some emails from friends and students asking me some very confusing questions... Having now read this very long thread, I am considering how or whether or not I want to respond. But I will say, that I am, profoundly confused and deeply hurt... If I feel I can say anything without causing further pain and damage to anyone else, I will. If not, I will stay silent...

The new Celestial Nei Kung Level I DVD is finished and ready for purchase. Quite a few taobums have asked me to inform them when the DVD would be ready. For more info or to buy go to http://www.spirittao.com/page18/DVD.html I won't be monitoring this thread as I am very busy, so if you have an honest question about the DVD or the practice, email me at [email protected] Mike

I have received some questions about combining Kunlun with Celestial Nei Kung. Whether or not it is safe to do so... Here is my reply to one of those emails. Any honest questions about the system are welcome. just email me at [email protected] Again, I don't monitor this thread, so if you have any questions, please email me at the above address, Mike

Thanks to all those who have purchased the DVD so far. Quite a few people have emailed me asking me more questions about the Celestial Nei Kung DVDs and the Shang Ch'ing energy system. I will post my response to one of those emails so people can get a better idea of what the system is about. Thanks again for the great response and for the intelligent questions, I do not monitor this thread, so if anyone has an honest question about the teachings, please email me at [email protected] or visit the website. www.SpiritTao.com Mike

There is alot here. The more you share about this, the more it feels unhealthy. The word "powerful" and involuntary comes up numerous times. What you and this homeless man have in common is powerful and involuntary. enlightenment is not part of this combination. I understand that the power that you feel around him may be intoxicating. But a true teacher, helps you feel your own power. Based on what I hear, there may a be a spirit lurking around who is enticing you through this powerful feeling. But, true enlightenment comes from within. If you are looking to explore a power outside of you, you are not following the true power from within. If this man or the spirits in the area are enticing you with powerful feelings that are not your own, this is a dangerous thing.. Look into it... Yes, it is very possible. Feelings are not facts... feelings must be reconciled with the actual situation. Look at this man and this situation beyond just your feelings.... First not all spirits are helpful. And many unhelpful spirits are very powerful and quite capable of giving you "good" feelings. The heart center is one area they like to invade. What is worth exploring is your desire to give yourself to this situation and escape yourself... I suggest, meditating and asking for giudance from your higher self, before diving into experiences or powerful feelings....

Excellent answer! the importance of Sitting meditation is often overlooked in energy cultivation.

Awake, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the homeless man. From what you describe it sounds to me as though his aura is badly damaged. Many homeless people are mentally ill and may have alcohol/drug problems. The reason why you feel so much energy around him is because his energy is literally "frying" him. A truly enlightened person is not going to mimic your thoughts. What you are witnessing is someone whose aura is so badly damaged, he is not able to filter out any psychic energy whatsoever, that is why he is mimicing your thoughts, it's as if your thoughts are being directly recieved by his energy and interpreted as commands. I understand that you are not trying to harm him, but your experiments are harmful to him. He can't help himself. It is also possible that the energy you are feeling is coming from spirits that are following and harrassing him. This would also explain why after a small pause, he is mimicking your thoughts. The spirits are reading your thoughts and making the man act your thoughts out like a circus animal. They are having a bit of a laugh at both of you. My humble suggestion is instead of making him do tricks, that instead you pray for him or wish him well. he is probably in alot of misery.

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Here is a more informative Trailer for the DVD. vyc1bCdLCpI Email me at [email protected] if you want to be notified when it is completed. Tien Di Sun

JF9N1BWnT4o I am currently editing this and it should be finished in July. I won't be on here checking responses because of the crazy politics and the haters. So, if anyone is interested, email me at [email protected] and let me know if you want to be notified when it is ready for purchase. Many questions about the art can be answered on the website www.SpiritTao.com Tien Di Sun Thanks, Mike

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Hi craig, yes very busy... Thanks for enquiring... Let me know when you want a seminar... Mike

I never take over the counter vitamins! Mostly garbage and even unhealthy just makes the liver and kidneys work harder to excrete them! As a rule, I rarely take any food supplement as I have found that lots of juicing of raw, organic vegetables, fruits along with copious amounts of organic nuts, and green leafys gives me the nutrition I used to get from supplements,... However, I recently was suggested to take a resveratrol supplement by a wholistic doctor. He was the one who taught me that most supplements aren't necessary if you eat good food. after 10 days, I started dropping unwanted pounds. I also noticed I was needing less sleep and seemed to have more mental and creative stamina. My skin even started feeling "younger". Very weird as I am not usually paying attention to my skin. I did some research on resveratrol and was very impressed with its reported health benefits. Based on my research on it and my continuing success with it, I decided to become a distributor. It is important to find a source that extracts pure organic resveratrol and processes it in an oxygen free environment to keep it bio-active and readily absorbable. The vast majority of resveratrol being sold now is not bio active or easily absorbable and hence is worthless... For us taoists, it is being touted as a "longevity" supplement.... http://www.BuyResvantage.com

Well, I heard from my teacher. He does not want me to videotape the mudra. He is happy to teach anyone in person after they have trained with him or me in person for some time. It is a very sacred mudra and he wants to make sure it goes to people who are serious about learning the art... Sorry for getting your hopes up. Mike

Good idea. I have introduced the idea to sifu and am waiting to hear what he says. When I have an answer, I will post a new thread and let all those interested contact me.. Mike

I will see what I can arrange and let you know. Thanks, Mike

I have been getting alot of PM's regarding people wanting to learn the Spirit Fighting salute/protection mudra. My Sifu has already heard of the interest from this forum. If anyone is interested, you can log on to my sifu's website and send an email or join the forum there. www.energyfist.com. Sifu will respond to any questions people have about the art. In terms of teaching it, I will have to talk with Sifu to see how he wants to do that. If anyone is in Los Angeles area, they can meet Sifu for free at his weekly class. If anyone is near to me, Boise, Id We can arrange something. If enough people from out of town are interested, we may be able to arrange a special seminar... Websites: Los Angeles area... www.EnergyFist.com Boise, ID area... www.SpiritTao.com

This is only what I was taught in my yogic training. others may have different opinions which are welcome... It's not that Shiva prefers demons, that can be a little misleading. The picture of Shiva hanging out with demons represents that Shiva (as pure consciousness) has no judgements. The demons that Shiva is seen hanging out with represents the negative destructive passions within US. In yogic mythology demons always represent our negative unconsciousness, our destructive passions.. So, the idea is that we can go to Shiva (pure consciousness) with all our imperfections and he doesn't judge us or send us away. Shiva (in many forms, not all forms) is a very easy hindu god to worship because he has very little preconditions. It also represents that those "demons" in reference to Shiva are seeking to evolve at their own pace. Shiva is also a master demon fighter and there are many stories of him destroying demons. His wife, (Kali), is his feminine side ans she all about demon slaying....

Most Esteemed Master Yoda, I also have that book and I really enjoy it. On the Shang Ch'ing Path of which you are a part as a kuloonie, it is possible to avoid the entity circus. There is a special protection mudra which is part of our lineage. I was always taught to use it before and after practice. It cleans the area and sends a message to the immortals in our tradition to come and protect and guide our practice. I have personally seen this mudra send ghosts literally running out the door. I have taught it to a couple of taobums here for similar reasons. If they are reading this they can respond or PM you and let you know if it has helped. Max was not taught the spirit fighting so that may be the reason he did not teach this mudra to kunloonies. it is my personal opinion that if you incorporated this mudra into your routine, you would not have to go through the crazy entity circus... I sent you a PM about it a while ago and my message tracker says that you haven't read it. Let me know if I can help. Mike

The worst time to do energy work is in the early afternoon. That is when energy is coarse and hot. If you can avoid doing it at that time, it is best..

Krishna is an incarnation of Vishnu. Vishnu is the 2nd in the Hindu trinity. Brahma Vishnu and Shiva. Vishnu is the preservation principle of the hindu supreme deity. So, Yes, (according to some hindus) Jesus and Krishna would be the same principle incarnated in human form. The Christian trinity of Father Son Holy Spirit has similarites to Hindu trinity. according to hindu theology, Vishnu incarnates whenever humans lose their way in order to remind them of their true nature. Vishnu has 10 major incarnations Rama and Krishna are the most well known. Buddha and Jesus are also thought by some hindus to be incarnations of Vishnu.

I was a Christian Minister for a short while before formally leaving the Church. I left because I didn't see formal christianity following the teachings of Jesus... There is some pretty good evidence that the man Jesus spent many years in the Indian subcontinent and that he trained in Hindu or buddhist tantric yoga (not the sexual kind). His manifesto of "the kingdom of God is within you" sounds very Indian/Buddhist to me. The tibetans have a sacred scripture that they claim is about the life of Jesus. Many hindus believe that jesus is simply another incarnation of Vishnu. And in terms of "the son of God and Saviour of the world, dying for sins etc..." it follows the hindu idea of Vishnu. So, my Vote is that the man Jesus was a Jew who converted to Hinduism or buddhism...

I haven't had any in Mo pai. But the way I have heard described "filling the dan tien until it overflows and moves up the spine" is a very common earth to heaven practice. The energy, like kundalini, moves up. Kunlun and Shang Ch'ing move the energy down. I am not making any value judgements. They both have the same utlimate goal. They are different methods, that's all. I have had experience in Shang Ch'ing practices and I have trained in Kunlun and it's "cousin" extensively. Kunlun is mostly Shang Ch'ing Tao. The Shang Ch'ing alchemy, postures and mindset is very different and in some cases completely backwards to many other alchemy traditions. (Again not better or worse, just different.) I personally tried to mix the two and it was disastrous for me energetically. I was told not to mix the two and I did anyway... Live and learn... Vortex are you a kunloonie? No Kan and Li (from my understanding) is still different. After mixing the two (Kan and Li) at the lower dan tien the energy rises up the spine. That is not what kunlun does.. I'm not an expert in Kan and Li so I may be missing some parts of it. But that is my understanding. In Shang Ch'ing we are not seeking to unite heaven and Earth. We are dissolving earth with descending heaven... It is not a path for everyone. It can feel like it is killing you. (your earthly self). The way I was taught is: earth to heaven paths are going from something to nothing to something again. (kundalini from root to crown to root again) and Heaven to earth paths go from Nothing to Something to Nothing Crown to root to crown again. There is no way to explain it in words further. it has to be experienced.. and again it is not for everyone...

It would cause major energy sickness. Mo Pai is a "Earth to heaven" energy. Kunlun is "heaven to Earth" This refers to how the energy flows. If you tried to mix the two, it would result in an energy "traffic jam"