SimoninTaiwan

Has any one worked through Franz Bardons Initiation Into Hermetics? If so what have been your results? Thanks Simon

Anyone looking for real deal teaching from humble teacher need to get over to Cambridge, I am in Asia and you rarely get anything approaching the quality of what Alex teaches.

Hi I would say China has more chance but still its a big haystack. A few things do u speak Chinese? I live in Taiwan and I am not very gifted at Languages but it is a must if you plan on getting in touch with any thing other than what is put out there and advertised to make money. Obviously there are exceptions but on the whole you need the language. If you have it already great. If not then I would get on a course in the mainland and learn, this will give you opportunity to research within the country and get an informed opinion first hand of where to go. Good luck.

Hi If you looking for those things specifically then it might be a long search. Usually and again all this is only in my limited experience methods and abilities such as you mention will come as either by products or as specific practices only after certain pre requisites have been met in terms of emotional stability and maturity. As Gerard said you may find more options within the mainland. Maybe have a chat with Linhai of Sacred Journeys he can share more of what he knows of teachers on the mainland he goes every year for several months conducting tours of the Sacred Sites (sacredjourneys.org, Linhai is very knowledgable on the taoist and Vajrayana Buddhist teachings. Also try Daozhen (Jesse) who spent lots of time in China in real practice, i dont jave the info to hand but do a search on taobums you should find some info. For Taiwan Master He Jin Han as Gerard mentioned is a real gem he take you deep through the body to the energetic and Spiritual though I don't know if what you are seeking will be part of the program at least at first alot of bodywork is to be done to prepare the body to deal with the energies and forces experienced in his branch of Bagua. I'm off to train. Simon

If real deep Bagua is your goal then I second Gerards recommendation. Master He is a real gentleman.

Hi I dont have contacts for you I am afraid I came out here looking for the same thing but on the whole in my experience so far and opinion there is very little still available here and of that which is avaialble it requires good Chinese Language and comes with the traditional baggage which often requires jumping through hoops to get very simple practices. A good place to start for the Taoist practices is through the many Internal Arts practitioners that you will find in all the parks around Taiwan practising in the early morning. Get to know people ask questions and see if you can find any one who 'can' show you and 'is' willing to show you something other than basic qigong. By the way the often told story of 'many master fled to Taiwan' should probably be changed to 'some of the masters fled to Taiwan. Its true there are some great teachers here but from also very briefly visiting Beijing and Chendu in my opinion I would say because of the size of China its still retains a lot of good teachers in all the parks as well of course as lots more average and bad teachers. Good luck on your journey, maybe also try rumsoakedfist.org there are many people on that board that live in Taiwan. Also be carful, be clear on what you want and don't kiss your brains goodbye just because some one is saying they can provide all you seek. Test everything and ask questions. All the best Simon PS Please dont pray for me, pray for yourself on your own journey.

Hi Serene, for me I started in March/April of this year and have found it to be the best approach for me. In the past i have gone down many paths but this seems to be the most thorough combine this with Yogic Pranyama its given me the most progress. As i have never really felt or experienced stuff in the past people say feel this i would be like, what? With this i feel i am on the path and just need to practice now and the skys the limit. Simon

Hi just saw this, please dont pass Alex's email on to anyone who needs proof, Alex is unwell at the moment and the last thing he needs is more hassles. He one seriously skilled guy but unlike alot of the internal people he trained damm hard under pressure sparring with many different people on the way. People are entitled to there opinion, end of the day I gave up the internal cos I couldn't be bothered to wait years to get to the fighting ability of a 1 year thai guy. Please people if you have fought for real fighting is fighting end of, you good or you bad, that's it. To much theorising over internal shows to me lack of reality. Its true big differences in approach but I feel when studying people need to know why if its for fighting then go with the most practical tried and tested approach. If more for theory cool do it as a yoga but please don't confuse the two. The footage of Alexs teacher, bear in mind yes he does Tai Ji well and looks soft but he gone through many years of the hard, fighting for real. Its the only way. Just my opinion.

Very true as great as the Tibetan traditions are with the many proofs of Jalu, Rainbow body acheivments and many, many amazing practitioners there is also the fact that it can take years and years to get any kind of method to acheive real change. The foundation practices I really do beleive are valuable but this is not 2000 years ago we dont have all day to practice we need potent methods help us advance in the understanding of the energies in our body, and the activities of our mind. For me unless you are very lucky I see it as lots of learning of ritual, how to take care of the shrine, how to do all the little details but when it comes to the meat of the practice, 6 Yogas, Dzogchen, real stuff its sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow in coming. Add to that the gamble of whether the Rinpoche in question is even interested in teaching the higher methods, the sole goal may be to fund the monastery back home. This has all shaped my decisions and pushed me away from trying to find the info in the big 4 traditions of Tibet to finding it elewhere.

Thanks everyone for your input on this subject I have found alot of useful points to look more into and have also found some well developed Bardon people who really do answer my questions and give me confidence in this system. A whole system in clear (depending on your opinion of his style) English. Simon

Thanks for that, its a great description.

Hi wellI have always been a bit wary of this kind of stuff as liberation as described in the Dharma is what I see as the ultimate goal but also that the Tibetan approches are also something of a toolbox of methods and wondered whether Bardons approach can take you the same way. I like his details and his specific methods to get clear results. I wanted to know if people had managed to stick to IIH instructions and if so what there opinion of the process is, my one concern was about the dangers of getting lost in power and manipulation of forces as to transcend these is the goal. Simon

Whats the point of this? You dont like his posts dont read them. Simple. I thought one of the shared goals here was growing to be the best we can be and dealing with our own shit before we go pointing at others. Perhaps consider this before creating your practice group as mentioned in your other thread. Simon

Hi everyone I was just looking at the classic book Autobiography of a Yogi, I find it a really inspiring read and so hope at least some of it was true! Just wondering if anyone has any experience with the mysterious Kriya methods, and also as this stuff has been practised for what 50 years now in the west surely if it does work we should be seeing some results from people. I love the sound of it all in the book but something does sound to good to be true in it all and there are some big claims like the recalculation of the Yuga cycle. Any thoughts??? Simon

PLEASE DON'T RIOT ... ... IT'S JUST WHAT 'THEY' WANT 'What you fight, you become.' - David Icke By David Icke As I travel around America it is clear that this country is on the brink of an economic catastrophe the like of which it has never seen. And, of course, it is not alone. A similar story can be told around the world. The foreclosure figures are fantastic as families and others lose their homes through no fault of their own on a scale that, according to current projections, is destined to become a tidal wave. The credit explosion was orchestrated through Illuminati agents and Satanists like Alan Greenspan, who represents the interests of the Illuminati's Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission and other far more exclusive and sinister secret societies. Greenspan was the long-time head of the privately-owned 'US central bank', the Federal Reserve. Once his policies had manipulated as much personal and commercial debt as possible the plug was pulled on the system to trigger what is designed to be global economic meltdown. Greenspan, who led 'the Fed' under Reagan, Father Bush, Clinton and Boy Bush, operates at a deeper level within the Illuminati network than most of their public figures, and I was told by a former Satanist, an unofficial offspring of the Rothschild family, how he remembered Greenspan at sacrifice rituals he attended: 'I can recall the Rockefellers and the Bushes attending rituals, but never having the supremacy to lead them. I still regard them as lackeys and not real brokers of occult power. Except for Alan Greenspan, most of these fellows were camp followers in the occult, primarily for the economic power and prestige. Greenspan, I recall, was a person of tremendous spiritual, occult power and could make the Bushes and the younger Rockefellers cower with just a glance.' This, then, is the man who was controlling the United States economy from 1987 to 2006 and who, as planned, oversaw the insane economic policies that led to the current global collapse. Go to another level of understanding and you can see that Greenspan and other Illuminati place-men throughout the world knew exactly what they were doing and what the outcome was planned to be. Zionist Greenspan got out just before the true scale and consequences of his manipulation came to light. It has been left to others, including his Zionist successor at the 'Fed', Ben Shalom Bernanke, to offer the 'solutions' to the problems that Greenspan and his like created. All of these 'solution' people are controlled by the same force that was, and is, behind Greenspan. This is why Obama has named blatant insiders to his 'economic team' who were fundamentally culpable in the very collapse they have been appointed to 'address'. The Zionists Tim Geitner, Larry Summers, Paul Volcker etc., who are all stalwarts of the same Bilderberg Group-Council on Foreign Relations-Trilateral Commission network as Greenspan, have no intention of finding a 'solution' that will benefit the people of America or anywhere else. Neither does Obama's Budget Director, the Zionist Peter R. Orszag. It was Orszag who advised the Russian finance ministry at the time when Zionist oligarchs were raping the Russian economy and stealing its resources and he was a financial advisor to the Icelandic central bank just before the Iceland banking system crashed. Great 'choice', Barack. During the Clinton administration, Orszag worked with Obama's White House Chief of Staff, the ultra-Zionist Rahm Emanuel, on imposing the NAFTA 'free trade' agreement that has cost incredible numbers of American jobs - exactly as planned. Emanuel served in the Israeli army and is the son of a terrorist with the notorious Irgun, one the terror groups which bombed Israel into existence after World War Two. It was Emanuel who said after Obama's election: 'You never let a serious crisis go to waste'. Emanuel, a cold and vicious piece of work, is directly controlling Obama and the White House in league with senior White House advisor, the Zionist David Axelrod, who ran the puppet 'president's' election campaign and oversees the writing of the speeches that he reads from the teleprompter screens. Emanuel: Obama's puppeteer Axelrod: Obama's voice on the teleprompter screens At least most of 'Obama's' economic place-men are fundamentally connected to the Zionist Robert E. Rubin, the Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton, who oversaw financial deregulation that led ultimately to the current crisis. Rubin recently resigned from Citigroup after encouraging the policies that led the company to the brink of collapse. In January 2009, Rubin was named by Marketwatch as one of the '10 most unethical people in business' and his proteges and close associates are now running the US economy under Obama. Another massive blow to economic confidence came when the Zionist hedge fund crook, Bernard Madoff, revealed that he'd 'lost' $50 billion of his clients' money. He says he acted alone. No bloody chance. Other financial disasters which have collapsed the markets include American International Group (A.I.G.), the insurance giant headed by the Zionist, Maurice Greenberg. It has just announced losses of $61.7 billion for the final three months of 2008 - the biggest quarterly loss in corporate history. Greenberg is extremely close to the Zionist Henry Kissinger, one of the Illuminati's most vociferous global manipulators of the last 50 years. Kissinger was appointed chairman of A.I.G.'s International Advisory Board in 1987. Zionist Kissinger with Zionist Greenberg. Anyone see a common theme building here?? Are all these people just breathtakingly incompetent? No, no, no. Their role for the cabal is to destroy the economy and America in general by, among many other things, triggering the financial crisis and then wasting staggering amounts of borrowed money - trillions of dollars - to ensure that there is no way back. A US TV ad apparently said that if you spent a million dollars a day every day from the alleged birth of 'Christ' to today you would still not spend as much as Obama is spending in borrowed money in his 'stimulus' package - let alone the other fantastic sums on top of that to 'bail' the banks. They have worked super-fast, using fear and the Obama hype as their weapons, to throw more petrol on the fire in the full knowledge that this will make matters worse, not better. Bush's 'bail out' of the banks has disappeared from the radar with nothing to show for it and now Bush Mark 11, Mr Change, is fronting up the spending of another three trillion. The biggest recipient of bail-out money has been Maurice Greenberg's A.I.G, which has been given $180 billion in borrowed money that the American taxpayers, and their children, are now responsible for repaying. Rubin's Citigroup is in for $50 billion of borrowed 'government' money. The idea is not only to collapse the American economy, but to throw so much money at the problem (the banks mostly) as quickly as possible so that the response options of the government are zero by the time the economy really crashes on the scale that is planned. The same is being orchestrated around the world, as we see in Britain where the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, is also hurling borrowed money at the banking system only for the situation to go on getting worse. Brown was Chancellor of the Exchequer, in charge of the country's finances, right through the Blair years when he pursued policies that mirrored those of Greenspan. Now the man who was a major cause of the banking crisis in the UK is asking us to believe that he is the 'saviour' of the financial system. That's like a guy smashing someone around the head with a baseball bat and then claiming to be a hero for driving the fellah to hospital. But these people have no shame. The global economic collapse is designed to trigger a stream of 'benefits' to the Illuminati agenda. One, as I have said from the start, is to use this as an excuse to impose a global economic dictatorship controlled by a world central bank. But there are many other 'solutions' and connected 'benefits' that are planned to be exploited and we need to be streetwise to them. The one I want to emphasise here is the need to stay calm and react peacefully to what is happening. This is not easy when there is so much stress and fear around with regard to the economic present and 'future', but we need to do it all the same or we will walk straight into a massive trap that has been set for us. Let's get this straight: They want you to riot in response to the unfolding economic catastrophe and we are already seeing people falling for this. Riots in France over economic conditions Why would the authorities want people to riot? Readers of my books over the years will see the answer immediately. They want an excuse to bring in a fully-fledged Police State all over the world and people who riot in their desperation (instigated invariably by agent-provocateurs) are just the excuse they are looking for. Be very, very aware of anyone who starts rioting, or encourages others to do so, amid peaceful demonstrations. Who are they and why are they doing this when it is handing all the aces to the system to impose a Police State? They are either stupid or agents of that State. Regular readers of my newsletters will recall the one about the UK traffic warden who was suddenly given new cards authorising him to do the work of the police and to enter property without permission. His job was supposed to be just handing out tickets for illegal parking and so on. His boss would not discuss why these new cards were being issued, but a police officer friend explained all to him. The officer said the government was preparing well ahead of time for a coming 'war', during which they were expecting mass protests and rioting in the streets. The police and the military were going to be so focussed on dealing with this that other uniformed professions, like traffic wardens, private security guards, CCTV operators and many others, were going to be brought forward to do the work normally done by the police. Soon after the traffic warden approached me, the government announced that his profession was being re-designated 'civil enforcement officers', thus disconnecting them from their sole role of dealing with traffic. A few months later the government announced plans for a new group called 'accredited persons' - private security guards, CCTV operators and many others who would be given authority to do some of the work currently confined to the police. The officer told the traffic warden about a 'war', and that is planned for sure at some point. But the excuse of the war could also have been a cover-story for those people who were needed to work on the preparations, but were not to know the real reason behind it. That real reason, as we can now see, could include economic rioting after the financial collapse that the Shadow People have long known was coming because they were going to cause it - although, I stress again, a war is also being engineered involving the 'West', China and Russia. I have been stressing this point about the plan to stir up civil unrest and rioting whenever I can and now the insiders are beginning to put that thought into the public mind. 'There could be riots' is designed to communicate the theme subliminally of 'go out and riot'. It is the simple power of suggestion masquerading as 'concern'. And who should do just that than Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Illuminati Trilateral Commission and one of the chief mentors and controllers of Barack Obama. I won't call him 'President' Obama any longer until he produces a birth certificate to prove he is eligible for the post. Brzezinski told MSNBC: '... there's going to be growing conflict between the classes and if people are unemployed and really hurting, hell, there could be even riots!' No, Mr. Brzezinski, you know there are going to be riots because the network you represent is going to do everything it can to make them happen. More and more we are seeing this theme appearing from representatives of the State. The U.S. Army War College has made the same warnings in a document called Known Unknowns: Unconventional 'Strategic Shocks' in Defense Strategy Development. It said the military must be prepared for a 'violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States', in the light of 'unforeseen economic collapse'. Unforeseen?? You must be joking. The document talks of 'purposeful domestic resistance', 'pervasive public health emergencies' or 'loss of functioning political and legal order'. It goes on: 'Widespread civil violence ... would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home. Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.' As the traffic warden, now 'civil enforcement officer', found out, this is precisely what they are planning in the UK and the same will be the case in every country because they are all controlled by a world-wide web orchestrating a global agenda. The War College document said that the Department of Defense would be the 'enabling hub' for the 'continuity of political authority in a multi-state or nationwide civil conflict or disturbance'. Put that through the Orwellian Translation Unit and you get 'the military will control the country'. This has all been planned for a long, long time as I and others have been warning all these years, and the 'hostile groups' the document talks about will be anyone who is challenging the political/military dictatorship in any way, even verbally. In the light of this, you won't be surprised to know that the US military is currently seeking to spend another $6 million on 'riot equipment'. Dennis C. Blair, Obama's Director of National Intelligence and Trilateral Commission member, has also said that the economic crisis could create civil unrest in the United States and around the world. He said the crisis was 'regime-threatening' if it continued over one or two years and this manufactured crisis is designed to be much bigger and longer than that. In the simple language that he seems to find so hard to summon, Blair says that there is a greater chance of war during economic turmoil and there's no doubt they have just that planned in the wake of what is happening now. Other establishment figures who have warned of unrest and rioting include the heads of the World Trade Organisation and the International Monetary Fund, both Illuminati organisations to their core, and anyone who heads them will be, by definition, gofers for the cabal. In the UK, yet again confirming the validity of the traffic warden story, the head of the police branch dealing in public order has warned of a possible 'Summer of Rage' over rising unemployment and the economic crash. Superintendent David Hartshorn of London's Metropolitan Police said that 'known activists' were planning to exploit the situation to mount mass protests and he pointed to the G20 Summit in London in April as a likely target, along with banks. The London Sunday Express has also reported that UK police and 'security' services are preparing to deal with rioting and 'the chilling prospect of soldiers being drafted on to the streets has not been discounted ...' Riots in Greece Mass protests around the world are no longer simply predictions because they are already happening and, with the global economy yet to collapse on anything like the scale it is intended to, we have seen nothing yet. Some 120,000 people demonstrated in Dublin over the handling of the economic crisis in Ireland, a million protestors have been on the streets in France, UK oil refinery and power station workers launched a series of strikes in protest at the use of foreign workers, and the riots across Greece late last year were partly economic in nature. Albert Pike I can encapsulate what is going on here with part of a letter alleged to have been sent in 1871 by Albert Pike, a Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in America, to Giuseppe Mazzini, the Illuminati 'revolutionary' in Italy. In this letter, Pike is said to have detailed the background to three world wars the Illuminati was planning to bring about their global dictatorship. The first two happened as he predicted and this is what he said about the third: 'The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion ... ... We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.' Click here for more background ... Many dismiss the letter as a myth, but in the context I am using it that doesn't matter. What it says is what is planned - an economic and social catastrophe in which the people turn on themselves in their engineered desperation and all morality is submerged in a mass battle for perceived survival. The term 'nihilism', used in the Pike letter, has this dictionary definition: * Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief. * The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement. That pretty much sums it up, really, and this is why they want people to riot all over the world to destroy the existing order, which, yes, the Illuminati created, but they now seek to replace that with the next stage of their tyranny - total global control. This means that national governments and nation states must be destroyed to allow a world government to assume its dictatorship. Look at that definition of 'nihilism' again in the light of this: 'The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement.' 'Rioter' and police dealing with the 'rioter' - all wearing the same police-issue boots. Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about. Already waiting in the wings are the agent provocateurs and the useful idiots primed to start the riots and civil unrest that the idiots believe to be challenging the existing order. But the existing order was created by the same network of Illuminati families that are seeking to create the 'new order', the New World Order, which is planned to emerge from the turmoil and chaos they are now engineering. To achieve this, as always, they need our cooperation and let no-one be in any doubt that those who choose to riot and loot in response to what is happening, and encourage others to riot and loot, are walking straight into the trap that has been laid for them. The government and military agent provocateurs will know that, the useful idiots will not, but it is time they did. I have met few more concrete-minded or naive people than those that are termed the extreme end of the political 'Left'. They have been played like a violin for hundreds of years to change the world in the image of the Illuminati blueprint in violent revolutions to bring down the established order. Now they are being gathered again to complete the journey to global tyranny and provide the violence and chaos that is designed to open the way to a world government, world army, world central bank, world electronic currency and a microchipped population connected to the global positioning satellite system, or GPS, among many other technologies of surveillance and control. The riots and looting they want to see, the chaos, will be met with the installation of a Police State with curfews, jail without trial, the military on the streets, and the activation of the concentration camps for 'dissidents' that we have long warned about. They are officially called 'military installations', run by FEMA, the deeply-sinister Federal Emergency Management Agency, and it is no coincidence, of course, that a bill numbered H.R. 645 is passing through Washington 'to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations'. No, concentration camps, and other countries will have them prepared also. Look at what that War College document said: 'Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.' Might? It's a certainty because that's the plan and all the laws are in place to allow them to do it. They have been passed by governments around the world as 'anti-terror' legislation, but they use the terms 'terror' and 'terrorist' in such a non-specific way that all these laws can be applied to the entire population of the country that the 'laws' were supposed to protect according to their advocates. It was all a gigantic con, as some of us tired of pointing out. It had nothing to do with terrorists who are alleged to plant bombs and so on. All these laws have been put into place with the specific goal of controlling the mass of the people through a Police State when they triggered an economic collapse, together with new wars. Add to all this a stream of presidential executive orders signed by successive presidents without oversight by either the House of Representatives or the Senate. These are unconstitutional and make the president a virtual dictator. Click here to see the powers that the State can activate, thanks to these orders, when martial law is declared. This is why Obama's Zionist Svengali, the White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, is seeking to have gun ownership curtailed - to make the military takeover easier. Meantime, more people are seeking to be armed and requests for concealed weapon permits in Florida alone are up 42 per cent in 45 days with the consequences of the economic turmoil in mind. The military on the streets of Iraq. How long before the same is seen on the streets of America and elsewhere? The only way to stop all this is not to react as they want us to, with violence and hostility to both the State and each other. How many violent revolutions have led to just another tyranny, official or unofficial, to replace the one that fell? It has to be so because what is destroyed by violence will be replaced by the same energy. As I have said in my books, what you fight, you become. John Lennon put it perfectly when he sang: You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it's evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world But when you talk about destruction Don't you know that you can count me out ... ... You say you got a real solution Well, you know We'd all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We're doing what we can But when you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell is brother you have to wait Revolution (1968) ... click here to watch ... Martin Luther King also put it brilliantly when he said of rioting: 'The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility.' Those are the words of a revolutionary who succeeded through peaceful non-cooperation. Yes, they killed him, but what he created through non-violence and determination went forth to end segregation. Physical life does not matter when compared with what is right, for we are all eternal Conciousness having an illusory experience and the greatest illusion is death. I would much rather die 'early' doing what I knew to be right than to eek out a few more illusory years as a slave to a tyranny. But there is no need even for that to bring an end to this nonsense. There are billions of people being enslaved and a comparative handful doing the enslaving. Er, I think I see a way out of this. We need to come together in mutual support, love, kindness and empathy. We need to put aside the manufactured fault-lines that divide us - religion, politics, race, culture and income bracket. That is not to say people have to reject their beliefs, just don't let them be weapons of division. We are all in this together and we need to meet the challenge together, not steal from each other, loot or riot, or look the other way because something happening to someone else is 'not my problem'. They are not seeking to enslave Muslims, Jews, black people, or white middle class Americans and so on. They are seeking to do it to all of us and they are picking off different groups one by one, just like the Nazis did in Germany. Remember these famous words because they are so applicable now: First they came for the Jews and I was not a Jew so I did nothing. Then they came for the communists and I was not a communist so I did nothing. Then they came for the trade unionists and I was not a trade unionist so I did nothing. Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak out for me. Let us unite behind that which affects everyone - the loss of our most basic freedoms. And if this is being planned now, what kind of world are our children and grandchildren going to live in? Can you live with that thought while doing nothing or rioting as the authorities want? I can't. We need to start getting organised in communities and groups to support each other and stop cooperating with the system - not to fight it. The system can only exist with our cooperation and acquiesce. We are holding it together. They have their men and women of violence, called the military and 'Swat' teams, to deal with violent resistance. But their worst nightmare is our non-cooperation - the refusal to pay taxes; refusal to leave homes when banks foreclose on them; refusal to 'comply' with our own enslavement in any form. The system couldn't cope if this was done on a mass scale. And that's the point: to do this we need to do it en-masse and those not immediately affected need to support those who are. Instead of compliance, we need the non-comply-dance of people who beat to a different drum and will not comply with what is unfair, unjust, or targets their freedom and the freedom of others. This approach does not refuse to comply in a spirit of hostility, rage or violence, but with love, joy and laughter - and an unbreakable determination not to cooperate with their own enslavement. We need a mass refusal join the military, especially if they try to introduce the Draft; a refusal to do the compulsory 'community service' for young people that Obama's controllers want to introduce (as does the UK government); and a refusal to join, or accept the legitimacy of, Obama's planned civilian security force, which is nothing more than a scam to get the people to police the people on behalf of the Elite in the midst of the economic collapse and war. We need to start getting together local currency schemes that can operate outside the system and, yes, people should also have mass protests if they choose, so long as they are peaceful. But they need to be part of the campaign of non-violent, non-cooperation, not the focus of it. How many mass protests have there been over the years around the world and yet everything just goes on as before, be it war or globalisation. We need to stop posturing and then heading for the bar to feel good about ourselves and start doing what will actually make a difference. Mass protests can ease frustration - steam whistles as I call them - but what good do most of them do? Mass non-cooperation with the system is far more effective. The protests need to be targeted at non-cooperation, refusing to accept laws that ban assembly by massive numbers turning up; surrounding the homes of neighbours when the bank bailiffs come to put them on the street; and so filling the locations of government and finance with masses of people that the system cannot function. Workers who provide essential services to government, police and financial institutions etc., can refuse to do so until Orwellian laws and financial injustice are removed. In this way the perpetrators are affected, not the mass of the people, as with all-out strikes. And all of this needs to be good humoured and strictly peaceful. I would say this also to those in uniform. You may think you have power, but you are just pawns in the game like anyone else. You don't have the power, your uniform does, because that is an extension of the State. Those inside are just there to animate the uniform and do the bidding of those it represents. When you are useful to the cabal they'll praise you and when you are surplus to their requirements as part of the bigger agenda they'll show you the door. You have children and grandchildren, too, who will have to live in the world you are policing into existence by 'following orders' and believing the manipulative nonsense fed to you by governments and cabal 'training' fronts like the UK-based Common Purpose. Wake up from the trance and stop building a Police State for your own children and grandchildren - and everyone else. Think about the consequences for those you love of what you are doing - and stop doing it. More than anything, we all need to free our minds and become conscious. From that, everything else will come, including the intuition, inspiration and knowing that will guide us on how most effectively to deal with what we face. If there are many things you would like to do in a room, but the room is dark and you can't see, what is the fundamental first step to anything else happening? You have to turn on the light and then all the rest becomes possible. Without that you are thrashing around in the dark and falling over the furniture. That is what 'humans' are doing today and have been for so long. They have been manipulated to believe they are their bodies and their names when those are just the experiences of who they truly are - eternal Consciousness. As the great American comedian, Bill Hicks, said: '... all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.' The divisions between us are illusory to allow a certain kind of experience, but these illusions have been exploited mercilessly to divide and rule us. ENOUGH! When we awaken to the truth of who we are the world looks very different and so do the challenges that are put before us - or we put before ourselves. Move your point of observation and everything changes. Try it. Try ceasing to identify who you are with your body, your name and the reflection in the mirror. Try seeing those things as experiences and not who you are. Try observing your life and the world from the perception of the real you - eternal Conciousness, All That Is, Has Been and Ever Can Be in our illusion called 'time'. Eternal Conscious in awareness of itself doesn't riot; it is not violent and it doesn't loot. But nor does it ever do, or accept for itself and others, what is not fair, just, loving and kind. Crucially, Consciousness is without fear. When we operate on that level then we can truly claim to be Conscious and not trapped in the illusion called Mind. As Albert Einstein said: 'You cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them.' John Lennon also made this key point in Revolution about what needs to happen to really make a difference. We need to free our minds and become Conscious: You say you'll change the constitution Well, you know We all want to change your head You tell me it's the institution Well, you know You better free you mind instead But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow We are now fast heading for the eye of the storm that has been planned for so long to enslave the global population in a centralised tyranny. But we don't have to accept it or acquiesce to it, meekly looking on as the walls of control close in by the day. But that is what is happening and it has to stop. For everyone's sake, it has to stop. We can come together, we MUST come together, putting aside the fault-lines of race, religion, culture and income bracket. These are just illusory labels through which we are divided and therefore ruled. Believe in them if you wish, and enjoy them if they make you happy, but don't let them divide us any longer. We need to come together in mutual support at this time as those with sick minds and closed hearts are poised to throw everything at us to complete their agenda for total control. Whether their insanity prevails is not in their hands, but in ours. It is we who have the power if only we would choose to use it. We are One Consciousness deluded into thinking we are 'little me'. When we realise that we are all One - and act upon that with courage, love, kindness, peace and empathy for all who need support - the walls of oppression must fall. But sitting on your arse hoping it will all go away is no longer an option. It never was.

Hi All I had an experience on Saturday while gettign a massage I drifted of into half sleep half aware I was trying to keep intention on my crown then there was an almighty click like my brain had clicked and I found myself or my awareness in black space bit puzzled and a bit of fear as to where the hell i was. This lasted only about a minute then I clicked backed in. Any thoughts, views, where was that? Thanks Simon

Thanks all for your replies its interesting to hear others have had the same, I shall keep going and see what happens next. Simon

As far as I know Dharma from HH Penor RInpoche and a host of other Palyul Rinpoche and Internals some Wai Lun Choi. Plus alot of qigong very similar to Bruce Franzis.

Just saw the above: This explains what I was trying to say alot better there has to be an allowance other wise it just wont happen. Though I would love to be proved wrong that would be ace i could just do that and grow a cool beard.

Sorry let me clarify, its not need a hook to 'see' his void power its you need to have a Psychological hook = Hypnosis, high level of suggestibility. There are methods of energy use and LKJ is good training aid some times but when people make out it can fire ball people away thats a great exaggeration unless the receiver has been prepped psychologically to receive and respond as required.

Very similar. It was a bit of a shock just floating in a expanse.

I was a student there for two years and went on the retreat in Greece. In my opinion he is a genuine Chela of HH Penor Rinpoche who left us last week and he really has received alot of high level teachings in the Vajrayana and Dzogchen. When it comes to the martial arts he is pretty good and I think is very clever guy he can absorb info quickly though I think he is better at the Wing Chun and Shaolin stuff than the internals. He does have some gifting and does carry a vibe but the whole ling kong jing stuff void power is completely reliant on a compliant participant who has a devotional hook to their Guru I asked for it to happen on me and was told that a hook is required. I witnessed the bouncing of students every session, and witnessed some weather stuff which i believe in but it was a bit to closed for me I can see why some call it a cult but for me he is genuine at heart but not for me. Simon @TTT Careful as there are many charismatic mystical teachers around IU have been sucked on before its a very painful damaging experience. I learnt the hard way when choosing a teacher use the Buddhas advice. Simon

Labels, Labels. Petrol/Gasoline is the same no matter you buy it for the BMW the Toyota the Ford, so doesn't matter IMO. Merely gives us more intellectual boxes and labels to play with. Bonpo, Zarostrism (spelling!!!) Vajrayana, Mikkyo, Shamanic, all play with the same gasoline and drive you home choose whichever car fells comfy or comes with optional extras. Me I like the BMW. Simon

Yes sure most of us have thought about it, but for me the truth is only so much of that is valuable as you still need daily life to test you and what delusions you are still living with. Its why I think a path combined with hard physical activity even better with Martial Arts stuff as all the fearlessness that is developed on the cushion gets tested for real. A balance of both retreat and interaction i think is good. Otherwise get yourself to Asia living here is cheap you could spend 2 or 3 years on Emei mountain or Wutai for very cheap money couple dollars a day living and eating. Simon

OS reinstall will sort that, then just put AVAST/AVG on a USB from work and put on home laptop before going online. Or put a linux OS on it, you can even run from a USB with linux on it. Simon PS appologies off topic