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Calligraphy, bold. From an absent minded hand. Telling the time, twice.

That all depends on how attached you are to your own projections, your own conceptions, your own interpretations, and your own world view. It depends on how flexible you are, and how much freedom you have from your own mind as well as the collective mind. The vast majority of people have little choice in the matter, when it comes to the construction (and especially deconstruction) of such a fundamental framework. Everyone has a vested interest in such a system on some level, and uncovering all of those various sticking points will require an understanding of the principals of such formations themselves - from the original genesis in the source of their manifestation, as well as the unfolding circumstances that follow. For example, the actual abrahamic name of the Leader of Fallen Angels (or Watchers), is Samael. The latin name "Lucifer" (literally "light bringer", from lucem ferre) does refer to venus specifically and has absolutely no relation to the angelic host as described by the abhrahamic traditions. The conflation between those stories is an ancient patriarchal "wink and nod" that somehow became a rote and uncontested truism within the religious understanding of the middle ages and renaissance period, and has remained as an unexamined "reality" ever since. But its not "reality". Its a conflation of numerous ideas. But of course no one ever got rich by betting on the public capacity for logic. If you are really interested in digging even deeper, we can continue. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......... Huh? What? Yeh, so put that in your pipe and smoke it. But honestly if you are really interested in learning about the paths of lightnings and stars, you are gonna need to do some extra credit work.

1. Thou, Soma, art preeminent for wisdom; along the straightest path thou art our leader. Our wise forefathers by thy guidance, Indu, dealt out among the Gods their share of treasure. 2 Thou by thine insight art most wise, O Soma, strong by thine energies and all possessing, Mighty art thou by all thy powers and greatness, by glories art thou glorious, guide of mortals. 3 Thine are King Varuna's eternal statutes, lofty and deep, O Soma, is thy glory. All-pure art thou like Mitra the beloved, adorable, like Aryaman, O Soma. 4 With all thy glories on the earth, in heaven, on mountains, in the plants, and in the waters, - With all of these, well-pleased and not in anger, accept, O royal Soma, our oblations. 5 Thou, Soma, art the Lord of heroes, King, yea, Vrtra-slayer thou: Thou art auspicious energy. 6 And, Soma, let it be thy wish that we may live and may not die: Praise-loving Lord of plants art thou. 7 To him who keeps the law, both old and young, thou gives happiness, And energy that he may live. 8 Guard us, King Soma, on all sides from him who threatens us: never let the friend of one like thee be harmed. 9 With those delightful aids which thou hast, Soma, for the worshipper, - Even with those protect thou us. 10 Accepting this our sacrifice and this our praise, O Soma, come, And be thou nigh to prosper us. 11 Well-skilled in speech we magnify thee, Soma, with our sacred songs: Come thou to us, most gracious One. 12 Enricher, healer of disease, wealth-finder, prospering our store, be, Soma, a good Friend to us. 13 Soma, be happy in our heart, as milch-kine in the grassy meads, as a young man in his own house. 14 O Soma, God, the mortal man who in thy friendship hath delight, him doth the mighty Sage befriend. 15 Save us from slanderous reproach, keep us., O Soma, from distress: Be unto us a gracious Friend. 16 Soma, wax great. From every side may vigorous powers unite in thee: Be in the gathering-place of strength. 17 Wax, O most gladdening Soma, great through all thy rays of light, and be A Friend of most illustrious fame to prosper us. 16 In thee be juicy nutriments united, and powers and mighty foe-subduing vigor, Waxing to immortality, O Soma: win highest glories for thyself in heaven. 19 Such of thy glories as with poured oblations men honor, may they all invest our worship. Wealth-giver, furtherer with troops of heroes, sparing the brave, come, Soma, to our houses. 20 To him who worships Soma gives the milchcow, a fleet steed and a man of active knowledge, skilled in home duties, meet for holy synod, for council meet, a glory to his father. 21 Invincible in fight, saver in battles, guard of our camp, winner of light and water, born amid hymns, well-housed, exceeding famous, victor, in thee will we rejoice, O Soma. 22 These herbs, these milch-kine, and these running waters, all these, O Soma, thou hast generated. The spacious firmament bast thou expanded, and with the light thou hast dispelled the darkness. 23 Do thou, God Soma, with thy Godlike spirit, victorious, win for us a share of riches. Let none prevent thee: thou art Lord of valor. Provide for both sides in the fray for booty. - Rig Veda, Hymn XCI

I wanted to ask if there are any practicing or professional scientists who would like to share some more information on this particular topic and how it relates to taoism. There are many drops of this information scattered around taoist topics these days, and I would love to hear more about it from someone who has studied this particular exoteric concept at length and also has an interest in bridging that with the esoteric. I know there are texts and articles and so forth about this, but I would also be interested in a discussion with someone - so as to generate a living sort of talk about it. Perhaps some of you have heard of the Large Hadron Collider currently being built (and repaired), which seems to be another step for modern technology in studying these quantum realities in a physical manner. Does the LHC relate to this topic in a meaningful way? Or maybe there are those who would like to share their own personal perceptions of what may be called 'dark energy' or the 'zero point field'? Or are there 'mystical' perceptions to which no physical science is applicable? It would seem that physical science will not be able to ever quantify or qualify the more internal and spiritual, or emotional types of energy - rather than its most obvious manifestation - so does anyone feel that this discounts the value of physical science in terms of esotericism? I have personally not preferred to exalt intellect over emotion over instinct, or any one over the other - to choose sides as in head v.s. heart v.s body and so forth. Within the sphere of awareness, do not all these realities cooperate together?

Golden energy For the guy or gal Whose had a hard day Golden energy When you're expected to meet the demands Of an energetic mate before a red hot date Golden energy dripping down on you Golden energy Natural aphrodisiac Golden energy Working hard to keep you on full Golden energy Pumping iron all the way Keep you, you, you from being too too too tired, keep you laxed up and wired Rootin bootin sure fired Golden energy meets all requirements Posts no bills Poots no guff Needs no prescription Golden energy handle if you care If you dare Help yourself to another share... - DEVO, 1974