9th

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  1. The Animal Within Me

    In the world of cause and effect, "you" dont exist. "You" are the effect of a previous cause, stretching far beyond your comprehension. The idea that "you" are able to cause anything is like an optical illusion (without the optical part).
  2. mystical poetry thread

    a tap on the shoulder in the corner of your eye a glimpse from where you come to where you go when the lights go out and your time runs down into the gateless gate of the endless end and the birth of infinity realm by realm one by one by one
  3. Are we here for a purpose?

    To reiterate, the idea of "meaninglessness" or "no purpose to anything" is a defense mechanism against having to take responsibility for your life. It is a type of "ignorance" in the sense of ignoring the actual truth in favor of blind self-absorption. As humans living on earth, we have a certain perspective... and remember... there is no dark side of the moon... matter of fact, its all dark...
  4. Are we here for a purpose?

    I do as I please. Take it or leave it.
  5. Are we here for a purpose?

    It is as simple as the food chain. You should be able to understand this. You must eat to live, you must kill a living being in order for your survival to continue. You are not separate from this process. You certainly may wish to be, that is obviously understandable. But you are not. The desperation you exhibit here betrays your human mind's futile reaction to your human body's knowingness. The dichotomy of this misalignment has numerous implications... and they are preordained. It is part of the test, the challenge, the work.
  6. Haiku Chain

    but clean in the long run rabbit run, dig that hole the fox will find you
  7. Are we here for a purpose?

    You mistake immaturity for heat. I can show you the difference. Let us proceed.
  8. Are we here for a purpose?

    Sometimes the truth hurts, old man. Especially when it involves ignoring something as vital as the reason for your existence. Oh well... Maybe next time around, eh?
  9. Are we here for a purpose?

    You are reacting the same as a toddler would. How old are you again?
  10. Are we here for a purpose?

    There is a purpose for you just as their is a purpose for your asshole. You cannot separate one mechanical part of the universe from another in the grand scheme of things. You yourself may just be an asshole of the earth (or other apparatus) - in other words, you are just another mechanical part. The idea you have of yourself as an "individual" is the blind spot. It is not a naturally given phenomena, but rather a hard won achievement.
  11. Are we here for a purpose?

    I would say there is more to it than that. There are plenty of people that have the perspective that there is not a purpose, not a meaning to events and the general workings of phenomena. More often than not, it seems to be wishful thinking in the sense of avoiding the consequences of their actions, and not having to be responsible for their own life. It is a way of saying karma (or cause and effect) doesnt exist. In many cases, there is an observable element of fear involved as well - as though they are trying to hide from their own intuition.
  12. Are we here for a purpose?

    Yes, in his terms the "absolute" or "common father endlessness" is the undivided source, and the three principals of positive, negative, and neutralizing arise from it to create all the worlds (universes). However, these are not fixed designations but rather descriptions of their activity at a given moment...
  13. Are we here for a purpose?

    this is quite silly... is there a purpose for your asshole? yes, its how you take a shit doesnt matter if you as an "individual" ascribe that meaning or not its pure mechanics
  14. Its pretty much a known fact that there is a mother culture that later split into Persia and India.. just so you know, all humans are genetically related
  15. Are we here for a purpose?

    "The Fourth Way" of Ouspensky was an exercise in marketing. The way that was taught by Gurdjieff no longer exists, even (and indeed, especially) within the Gurdjieff Foundation, and its extensions. However, the Great Work will always continue. And here, G almost seems to prophesy about what is to come some 10 years later, regarding his groups and his star pupil:
  16. Are we here for a purpose?

    Well he certainly wasnt perfect, but there is plenty of good information to be found - like all teachers, all texts Ouspensky did transcribe the lectures, but it was basically word for word. The full story about what happened to Mr. O is readily available, if you are interested (in truth instead of fiction, of course.. so... I wont hold my breath). He split because he could not accept the emotional side of the work, and wanted to focus exclusively on the intellectual side. It did not end well for him. After many years, he publicly admitted he himself did not understand the system he stole from Mr. G, stopped teaching it, resumed his alcoholism and died in a deep depression... The reason I quoted the above is because I would tend to agree with the overall perspective. Mankind is part of the earth and its ecosystem, just as the earth is part of the solar system, which is part of the galaxy and so on. Of course mankind serves a purpose as part of the great universal organism. However there is also another possibility, which is specifically the ability to evolve consciously, outside the general species itself. This is what makes the human species what it is, which is a bridge between the worlds. The same functions and abilities that happen unconsciously in everyone as a collective can be made conscious in an individual, they can be actively integrated into life rather than passively forced from it - and therein lies the possibilities.
  17. His method was about burning commands into the unconscious. Some have said that summoning entities went hand-in-hand with that.
  18. Are we here for a purpose?

    Lets ask the G-man... "Humanity neither progresses nor evolves. What seems to us to be progress or evolution is a partial modification which can be immediately counterbalanced by a corresponding modification in an opposite direction. "Humanity, like the rest of organic life, exists on earth for the needs and purposes of the earth. And it is exactly as it should be for the earth's requirements at the present time. "Only thought as theoretical and as far removed from fact as modem European thought could have conceived the evolution of man to be possible apart from surrounding nature, or have regarded the evolution of man as a gradual conquest of nature. This is quite impossible. In living, in dying, in evolving, in degenerating, man equally serves the purposes of nature - or, rather, nature makes equal use, though perhaps for different purposes, of the products of both evolution and degeneration. And, at the same time, humanity as a whole can never escape from nature, for, even in struggling against nature man acts in conformity with her purposes. The evolution of large masses of humanity is opposed to nature's purposes. The evolution of a certain small percentage may be in accord with nature's purposes. Man contains within him the possibility of evolution. But the evolution of humanity as a whole, that is, the development of these possibilities in all men, or in most of them, or even in a large number of them, is not necessary for the purposes of the earth or of the planetary world in general, and it might, in fact, be injurious or fatal. There exist, therefore, special forces (of a planetary character) which oppose the evolution of large masses of humanity and keep it at the level it ought to be. "But, at the same time, possibilities of evolution exist, and they may be developed in separate individuals with the help of appropriate knowledge and methods. Such development can take place only in the interests of the man himself against, so to speak, the interests and forces of the planetary world. The man must understand this: his evolution is necessary only to himself. No one else is interested in it. And no one is obliged or intends to help him. On the contrary, the forces which oppose the evolution of large masses of humanity also oppose the evolution of individual men. A man must outwit them. And one man can outwit them, humanity cannot. You will understand later on that all these obstacles are very useful to a man; if they did not exist they would have to be created intentionally, because it is by overcoming obstacles that man develops those qualities he needs. "This is the basis of the correct view of human evolution. There is no compulsory, mechanical evolution. Evolution is the result of conscious struggle. Nature does not need this evolution; it does not want it and struggles against it. Evolution can be necessary only to man himself when he realizes his position, realizes the possibility of changing this position, realizes that he has powers that he does not use, riches that he does not see. And, in the sense of gaining possession of these powers and riches, evolution is possible.
  19. a handy how-to guide right here