ddilulo_06

You're going to steal something that helps you open your heart?

2 months ago

What you resist persists.

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...I'm intending for every child to be able to have parents like that... imagine everyone realizing who they are! Me thinkssss either we'll all evolve to enlightenment being the norm, or we'll kill ourselves... enlightenment or bust. OOOOHHH OOOOOHH... did I succeed in derailing this thread? I couldn't be so evil as to not let the thread starter know what I was doing. ...Ahem... I should act more 'enlightened'... or something.

Hah... imagine having a buddha for a dad!

Did you miss the part where Max says you are your own guru? I've seen this posted MANY times from quite a few people. I haven't been to a seminar yet (I'm going to the San Diego one this coming weekend) but my impression is he just gives you a few tools so you don't need anyone but yourself (your own inner teacher who makes itself known)

Starjumper, why do you keep ringing your danger bell in every Kunlun thread? You keep doing it over and over and over and over and over and over.... SHEESH! We get your point already... All the sarcastic comments, and just the sheer amount of energy you're putting into this... To warn everyone of the dangers? I don't think so. Are you sure there aren't any other reason? Yes, that is a pointed question.

I'll post what I think of Max & company next week... I'll be going to the San Diego Seminar. I haven't payed the $300 yet, as I want to see Max in person and ask him some questions.

Thanks Darin, I'm going to rent it tomorrow.

I did that and it was bullshit, IME. I gave $100 for an aura cleaning session. Toby supposedly did the remote session. No noticeable changes happened. I asked for a refund. I didn't get it... they stopped responding to my emails. My conclusion: It is a scam. I'm embarrassed admitting this, but I hope this testimonial helps you SiliconValley. Now that I'm wiser, I would see that this is a scam because it says everything is done to you... you don't play an active role in your own healing. If you do decide to do this, please post your testimonial. I would appreciate it. Dusty

Wait... is he saying that it is possible that we will engineer artificial intelligence that has the capacity to be self aware... like US!? Is he saying that we are going to give birth to a consciousness more capable than our collective consciousness? If you guys enjoyed this article, you might want to have a gander at this: http://www.thiaoouba.com/ ...fiction or nonfiction, who knows? Maybe he's just trying to sell shirts. Either way, the book is entertaining at the very least. What struck me the most was the similarity between the levels of species.

I've all but made up my mind that I want to go there in a few years... and I just found this website an hour ago. Looks like EXACTLY what I've been looking for in a school. http://www.universityofsantamonica.edu/ Have any of you heard about this place before? Do you know of anyone who is going there now, or has graduated from there?

To me, this is more proof that nothing outside of your Self can make you happy for long. It's cool to see it scientifically validated! So a lot of people are still chasing after the 99% of the things that don't matter eh? Well, what's that 1% that matters? What choices matter? Is it the choices that make you face yourself?

In a nutshell, I want help with my path of enlightenment and I want help in finding out my life's work. I don't know if it's a simple decision, or somehow karmically, we stumble upon it when the time is right. Some people know @ 5 years old and some never know. There has got to be something to this... I hear it's locked away in the 5th (throat) chakra... I know exactly what you mean... "light and love" is their mantra, but many of these people are about as deep as a puddle of water. I started to fall into this mentality, but then I started to see that it's just a pop-spirituality culture... kinda like the "cool spirituality people" I don't know what Genesis is, but I just Googled it. I don't really care about Genesis - I'm just trying to understand what you meant. So the parallel you're making is that USM isn't scientific? Sorry about the vagueness. So you're saying the psychology theyre teaching @ USM is based on the research where they pick out a few case studies and make a theory? I didn't see that. Are you saying their reading material isn't as difficult, so I won't be able to relate with the shrink community? I don't think I'm following you. What are you saying? The "best" schools leave out the metaphysical component. I tell counselors about some of the metaphysics stuff, and then they point me to schools that let you make your own curriculum and get it approved. I am talking about UC and CSU Universities by the way. I'm not sure about that idea as I haven't studied religion in much depth, nor do I care to. Thanks Pietro. I hope this one didn't sound like I'm in the debate club.

I don't know if this guy is enlightened for sure or not. I never met him. He calls himself enlightened though, and from what I've seen, I tend to believe him. Here are the steps to enlightenment, according to him: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. First realize that there is no inherent value in enlightenment, it is in fact, totally useless. What is detailed below is NOT FUN, and it's NOT SATISFYING to YOU. So unless you really feel a deep, honest yearning for something that seems to be missing in your life, this is the perfect step for you to jump off at and continue enjoying your life smile.gif If you're still around, go to step 2. 2. Learn to calm your mind, doesn't matter how, just learn. By calming your mind I mean just that. You should be able to take a deep breath whenever you want and notice how your mind goes BLANK, and stays that way as long as you relax. Focus on this until you don't want to anymore, then try step 3. 3. Forget calming your mind, your mind is irrelevant. Sit down and focus on your breath, explore your breath as intimately as humanly possible. Focus on it so much that you're not even there anymore, there's just breath... moving... If you find this difficult you've been lazy and need to go back to step 2. 4. Ok, so you can sit down and become your breath, awesomeness, you're enlightened! Buuuut you don't know that yet, so here's what you do; Start noticing the moments in between your breaths. If you have done what you should in step 3 you should start noticing an IMMENSE, UNCOMFORTABLE, ITCHY, MASSIVE, COMPLETE, UTTER, TOTAL, SCARY, WONDERFUL, EMPTY, GIANT sense of something. At first, it'll just be small hints and you're natural reaction will be to get the fuck away. So what you do now is that you keep on becoming your breath and noticing the moments in between until you've come to terms with this sense of something. Come to terms as in you no longer shit your pants and find the first best distraction to avoid it. 5. As you may or may not have noticed by now, this sense of something is actually there ALL THE TIME. You're usually just too busy thinking you are YOU to notice it. So what you do now is that you sit your ass down again and just rest with that feeling. Explore it fully. Make it your new best friend. This step can be very, taxing. For me it took a certain amount of yoga, solitary time and some crazy breath work to literally shock my body into letting this feeling consciously rest in me with any kind of consistency. It takes a lot of opening up, relaxation and letting go. I figure this is where a lot of people remain for a long time. Most are just too comfortable the way they are to put in the effort to really let go. A big part for me was to go through all the beliefs I could find about myself and look at them honestly and letting this sense of something shine on them. Most of them melted away like ice in the sun smile.gif Don't move to step 6 until you truly and honestly feel comfortable with this sense of something. Or do, but I don't think it'll do you much good tongue.gif 6. Now you need to figure out the difference between relating to reality, and relating to reality through concepts. There's a big experiential difference between direct experience and experience experienced through concepts. What we usually and automatically do is relate to everything through concepts, it's the way our mind works and there's nothing wrong with it. But to truly learn to know who you are this needs to be suspended for a while. Look at whatever concepts you have summoned about this sense of something and recognize them, and then shine the shiny light of this sense of something on that concept. Start relating to this sense of something DIRECTLY, and not through any fancy spiritual concepts. Also, look at whatever concepts you have left about yourself, who you are, as a body, person, entity, whatever, doesn't matter how spiritual or holy your concept it, shine the shiny shine light on it until it melts like all the others! This step takes a immense levels of trust and surrender. When people talk of dying before waking up, this is what they are talking about. As long as any belief is held on to that refers to what you really are, that's who you will take yourself to be, and you'll be wrong, because no concept can contain what we all are. It is like taking a biiiiiig leap of faith into a dark abyss where there is no safety, no second chances, it is just it. Either you take the step, or you don't. Either you let go of those final lingering beliefs or not. 7. Congratulations, even if you might not realize it yet, this is what most people keep yapping about when they talk about enlightenment. Yes, yes I know, it's rather ordinary and simple but hey, at least you're free now! Free of all those pesky beliefs. Free to be whatever you want whenever you want to. Free to be nothing at all, or everything. Free to go poof and decide you're done, free to stick around and enjoy the light show. 8. Ha! You thought you were finished huh? Step 8, realize that after all that effort, all those hours spent ridding your mind of belief, questioning it until your mind felt like porridge and making sure you didn't fall back in those pesky traps of mind. After all that, you're now completely free to START ENJOYING THEM AGAIN. There's irony for you. Half the freedom is in knowing what you really are, the rest is in that with this knowing you can now enjoy ANY belief you want. You can become the goofy spiritual person or the hardcore business guy all while knowing it's all part of the same wonderful light show orchestrated by that sense of something you've grown to know so intimately. Enjoy! Disclaimer: None of this is true, right or correct in any way. It's simply my subjective recollections of what I've learned from my own direct experience. It is written in retrospect to myself as a guide and a joyful reminder of what I've been through, and maybe a hope that someone else might be able to relate to it and find it useful in some way, if not, it's all the same smile.gif Disclaimer2: The irony of this whole post is of course that WE ARE ALL ALREADY ENLIGHTENED IN THE ONLY WAY ONE CAN BE. Enlightenment is big joke, and the joke is on us. We keep thinking that there's somewhere go, something to get, something we quite don't have yet which is like sitting right on top of a gold mine begging passers-by for change. Wake up and smell the gold. You're sitting on it. With love, irony and a touch of sadistic pleasure, tagg / Jonatan

I don't know what I'm looking for, so thanks for asking... it's dumb to be looking for something, but you don't know what it is! When I came across that school, I know I wanted to do something in the field of metaphysics/spirituality in my life. That's the first metaphysics school I came across besides typical retreats. I jumped at this because here is something that marries 3 of my biggest interests: Knowing myself, Psychology, and finding out what my calling in life is... complete with a seemingly great group of people to help me out with the process. Looking at traditional majors, psychology is kinda interesting on it's own, spirituality seems like it is vague in how to apply it to daily life. I know I'm still new to the scene, so maybe I just haven't come across the right stuff yet. But, having a community to support me in discovering my purpose, metaphysics, and psychology... that's what I want. Perhaps I'm just looking to narrowly and wanting to jump in the first one I came across? After I get out of whatever program I do, I want to have strong interpersonal skills, I want to be at peace with myself, and I want a better understanding of the world so I am more apt to knowing what I want to do with my life. I looked at that website and saw a maze of quotes, conduct rules of "bhikkhus and bhikkhunis"... what are those? The whole thing turns me off because I don't want to hack it alone... or online. I want to be around people learning this stuff. I talked to my history teacher last week @ college and she is going to hook me up with some sort of consciousness church. She said it's a bunch of people into the same kind of thing that I am. Maybe that's all I need??? About The TCM Course and making a career "in this area"... Are you just talking about the healing careers only? I feel I jumped to conclusion too soon last time. I don't want to be a healer. I don't know what I want to do with the deeper understanding I'm getting everyday of mySelf. According to USM, it doesn't matter what one does... the only thing that matters is one's way of being... what one is. Maybe I'm seeking to first let go of more karma, and then do something completely different than anything that would be under the umbrella of metaphysical professions - like maybe an enlightened racecar driver or something. That's still kinda up in the air for me, and USM said one of the biggest reasons students enroll at USM is to find their calling. You're right Pietro... sorry you guys. This has been one of my patterns. Looking back, it's almost like I want to debate this stuff with you guys... like I was picking a side and arguing so I could be right. Thanks for that.

This One? http://www.phoenixinstitute.com.au/

That website layout is an absolute nightmare. How the heck am I supposed to find anything? And there isn't any community to learn this stuff with and bounce ideas off of. That's a BIG part for me. I don't want to be an acupuncturist or an herbalist. Thank you for you response. Thanks Seth. What School was it?

What's that? BTW, I took a religion test and it said my beliefs are in 99% accordance with "New Age" I don't even know what that means. They don't intend on teaching that stuff, so it would make sense you would expect that: "The purpose of USM's education in Spiritual Psychology is for people to develop greater awareness of themselves as spiritual beings who have a body but are not their body, who have a mind but are not their mind, and who have emotions but are not their emotions." Wanna give me the cliff notes or a link please? Thanks for the heads up about the peer review thing. Before I ever slap down $20, you can be damn sure I'm going to make sure what I'll be learning is valid. About the Psychology thing - did you see this page?: http://www.universityofsantamonica.edu/What/index.html What's so misleading about how they use the word Psychology? Makes sense to me. They make no mention about this and you're pulling this out, I'm guessing, because you're not a fan of "New Age"... whatever that is. I agree that religions aren't all the same. Are you talking about all religions ultimately pointing to the same truth... call it Tao, God, Spirit, Consciousness, Allness, Holy Spirit... whatever? What makes you think it all airy-fairy-lets-hug-and-sing-all-day over there? I didn't get the impression that they are a diploma Mill, being that Neal Donald Walsh endorsed them: http://www.universityofsantamonica.edu/Abo..._educators.html Have you checked out a couple of these schools before? If I'm reading your message right, it sounds like you're cynical about the whole thing. The whole thing just rubs you the wrong way eh? Are vocational bureaus supposed to be sub-par or something? Gimme a break... I'm young. (20) The Buddhism school's mission statement didn't jive with me. Your saying the other two schools I can just ask about what they think about other spiritual schools? Why would they pump up their competition? All the above said, I wonder what students learn over TWO YEARS. Most spiritual retreats are around 2 weeks at the most... how much is there really to learn? I'm gonna go hunt for their curriculum now... I agree, there's a lot of good schools around, but what schools offer majors in methphysics/spirituality stuff? USM hits dead on what I'm fascinated about. BTW... I came across this school through her: http://www.holisticsinger.com/8.html A friend of mine met her in person, and she told him about it. My friend said she had nothing but great things to say about the place. EDIT: Found the 2-year spiritual psychology curriculum: http://www.universityofsantamonica.edu/Pdf...M_Catalogue.pdf Starts on page 24. "The two-year Program, which consists of 55 quarter units of coursework, is conducted in a supportive educational environment. During both years, classes meet one weekend a month for nine months and for one week during the summer quarter."

What do tags do?

I have quite a bit to say in response, but I don't have the time to get deep into this right now. You gave me a lot of leads though. I'll get back to this soon. Thanks a lot Pietro... now I'm off to write a PSYCHOLOGY paper for college.

I voted no... having to shuffle around to different sections to see the new posts is a pain. It's easier to see if they are all in one spot. Also, the thread starter gets more people to see their thread since everyone on the whole forum sill see it and not just people who would visit the section the thread was created in.

I'm already making plans.

http://video.yahoo.com/network/100063489?v=3776071 Wow.