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I couldn't have said it better myself And hyok, what kinda positive effects has the opening of your third eye brought to your life for now? And how did you open it as an atheist? did you meditate for stress purposes or anything like that?

Seems like you ve been through a lot of change Jack, if you dont mind could explain what happened and how concerning what you said? : "The first time I witnessed the death of my conscious self was the most terrifying and awful experience of my life" I ve seen some change myself, I try to eat healthier, and hardly eat any meat , and if I do have meat its usually chicken Thanks for the lesson Mal. Bioelectricity seems like a good way of describing the feeling I've had whilst trying the OBE And I ve tried the ball of chi, but when I feel the pressure I always think "is this my mind playing a trick", but i guess its not If I were to like place some paper between my palms, could the pressure have any effect on the paper, or any other very light weight physical material? I'd never thought about the kiss thing type thing, but it makes good sense i guess.

Thanks guys, as for my goals, well to find out the true human potential and then use it to benefit others as well as myself. And also if possible discover the true reason for being first hand, instead of reading about it. Either way I guess I should just sit still for now And Jack, could you share that spontaneous experience or whatever it was that took out your doubts with a vengeance? I mean I've had one whilst trying an OBE but the meditation feeling doesn't even come close. The vibrations on that experience was very powerful, closest I had had was being electrocuted by a disposable camera whilst taking it apart (so dont let your kids take those apart, the shock is quite strong ). Having not felt anything like that in meditation was just making me wonder, sorry I think and ask questions a lot maybe too many

Thanks MPWay, can you tell me if this feeling should get stronger over time and practice? And should I direct this anywhere? like the DanTian or 3rd chakra area

Awesome picture! Is it a more or less straight drop right below you? cause if it is I wouldn't have had the calm expression you seem to have standing up there

maybe he has an enlightened fashion sense we cannot yet understand But seriously, we can't ban him, I haven't seen him do anything that bad

:lol: , nice place though

hmm.. well my opinion on this is that Yes a good $$$ offering is a small price to pay for potential benefits. The problem in my opinion though is not how much or what you pay, but how people cannot fully trust one another in todays world. People just don't like to risk being scammed out of their hard worked money. Its like if I were to tell you offer me $10,000 and I'll give you a motor vehicle. This vehicle could be a Ferrari which means that's $$$ well spent, or it could be a motorised scooter which means you've been ripped off. So it's not paying that's the problem, it's the lack of guarantee about what you're getting that inhibits some people. Of course the teacher can't always be to blame if you don't get your moneys worth, but that's another discussion anyway. Thats how I see it anyway, it's not offering something that's the problem, but how you have little idea of what you're really going to get in return from your teacher. It would be great if we could fully trust everyone, but that's just not how the world is at this moment in time.

Thanks for clearing that up for me MPway, I'll be sure to use KISS method for now And dont worry the danger doesnt really scare me, not at this stage anyway =) And no power-lines above me either so it's all good

Thanks for letting me know, though with some of the other methods out there I see so many trying to sell you something that I guess I kinda lose faith in them. John Chang though seems like an amazingly nice person who would not lie about his power or practice, which makes it seem more appealing and authentic, well to me anyway. And you say the method is simple, but can you perhaps point me in the right direction so I can find it please? or post it here =) And what do you mean by not dwelling in yin and yang for now? You saying I wont need this kinda understanding until later?

Hi all, well I joined this forum to get some insight into a few things. I hope you guys can help me find my way to some truths that we dont come across in a modern day western society I seek OBEs, unlocked potential, any other secrets and someday a meeting with John Chang! I just want to have the honour of being zapped by him at least since he takes no more students

I m not a doctor or a surgeon dude I m not wishing for power to hurt anyone either, things I'd like to have some power for would be To help others discover they have this kinda potential too To show others this is real and deserves some looking into Help keep me keep my energy balanced and other too Basically bring myself and other I meet a new understanding of reality I believe I have sufficient "wisdom, compassion" so all I'm missing is "knowledge of his specialty" Thats why I am here =) I train all day every day, but if I'm not doing it right you could say I'm wasting time, time most don't have in modern day society. thanks for sharing anyway

Hey if you wanna help the people around you you gotta have some power So if people here can maybe help me find the best path to it how can i just sit quiet?

Thanks for the concern, but at the level I am I doubt I have the power to really damage anything yet, I guess thats a good thing as well as a bad thing

Ok cool, thanks =) left and right does seems a lot easier to differentiate between And mantis I can't really learn changs method from his video cause he never showed how he trains, unfortunately =( . I was just referring to his description of where his yin and yang come from. And why would you warn me against trying mr changs method from the video? is it dangerous? and can you tell me the safe way to go about it?

Thanks Stigweard, I will give that a try. though I thought the yin and yang would divided between upper and lower body and not left and right. Well thats what I gathered from the John Chang video anyway, did I misinterpret it somehow? And blessings to you too =)