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I'd say Chia's system has a great disadvantage: you cannot get further than first or second base without getting deeper into research about what the heck you are practicing. If you are the kind of person that is rather to practice some stuff without "overcomplicating", it's not going to work too great... sure, you'll have some minor improvements here and there, health, emotions, mind etc... if that's what you're after... If you want something more, a lot of research needs to be involved in it. And it takes a most flexible mind, because sometimes you can go deeper into fields of information that have no apparent link with what you practice. that's my 二分 on the subject also you can follow the link in my signature L

great thoughts, simply great

BINGO there's more on it, i think

I'm happy for you, James

Ah the innocence of young mind! You may think you're special, but there's a "Benny" at every corner of the street. FREE MEAL is the ancient dream of humanity. Maybe we'll get there someday, but no reason to impose a fantasy on real life right now... Take care L1

I don't like money either, but DENIAL will get us nowhere. It's pretty stupid, heh.

Exactly. And health is like gold. Once you really have it, and know how to get it, you can't ever get enough. The more you have, the more you'll want. And it's a great way to start your journey with the Tao - the Tao that doesn't care about gender, race, relligion, or space and time.

Is this practice part of anyone here's schedule? If so, what would be the guidelines you work with? Thanx L1

You know what's interesting about this? Jesus himself, and a couple of the saints were accused of the same things: Doing miracles with the help of Satan. The accused of course couldn't prove otherwise - it'd need to materialize God himself as a testifier. Funny how the story loops around... PS: If Satan didn't exist, he surely would have been invented... You can blame him for ANYTHING. I've been raised with Protestant BS. Wasted good years of my life. Here's a dedication to them: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_fh6RaafMc&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_fh6RaafMc&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_fh6RaafMc&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

thank you!

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i find this peculliarity interesting not by itself, it's implications are bewildering that being said, I still think we should help ourselves with what we know of but i've marked what you've said in my notes

one very simple and practical definition i stumbled upon is like this - the more toxic waste you get out of your body, the more space you create, to fill with light and i think food does have a connection to it... try eating only fast-food for a month, and then see what happens

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For me, the power of the practice magnifies every time my trust in that particular practice becomes stronger. And the trust becomes stronger only if it's confirmed by everyday use. The wear and tear of everyday life is my test to my practice, for the moment. If it passes the test, my trust in it becomes stronger, and the chi field that i work with, more... influential. L1

The thought of taking no sides, and being as balanced and unconditioned as it gets, it may be honorable. But is it also fertile? Is it also efficient? Not long ago, I used to criticize my teachers with the same ideas - not out loud, I didn't have the courage. Staying around them for a couple of years has shown, until now, the contrary: it does not matter how elegant and honorable the sollution is... It either works, here and now, or not. Of course, "working sollution" is also debatable. I think you understand though. L1

Is that why when you put a living fish in a tank of pure water, it usually dies in minutes?

It is, it is. I don't know what to say. I look and marvel. I never thought joining or not joining a system was an act of mere human preference. It's more like marriage, birth, death... it has destiny in it.

I agree. Much of which I left unsaid is that I see learning about Tao as a way to pay and reduce debt. There is much, I'll say.

Ok, let me take a shot at it... I may have mentioned in one or two other threads that the notion of freedom as we understand it, and Taoism, exclude each other. It's not easy to understand that, and it's not hard, also. To "merge" with the Tao, to "abide" by it's laws, means you disconnect from a set of laws (social and energetic thermodynamics), and re-connect to the laws of nature. Which means you jump from one set of laws, with a predictible outcome - suffering, disease, aging, and death... ...To another set of laws, which you strife thru your lifestyle, to prove. You are the proof: no more illness, no more mental and emotional chaos and suffering, aging slowing down or even stopping, and then the great leap into the unknown, as an immortal maybe? Bruce Lee believed in no styles. For him, styles, schools, don't exist. Because men and women have only two arms and two legs. That's what he believed. Yet, he had to develop his school, his style, the style of no style, Jeet Kune Do. Depending on the Time, and Space, there have been settled different types of algorythms, for the human being to connect to the Great Beyound. What makes them different is precisely the fact that they have been designed in different Times and in different Spaces. It's like going on a trip: take your train, buy your tickets, jump in, enjoy the ride, and go all the way. If you'll jump from one train to another, where do you expect you'll end up? I think the above line of thought can be an answer to the ethical problem that has been raised above txt. Thanx. L1

my oh my

tell me please, where and who did you find this out from?

I think I have an idea, but I had my share of ass-umptions, so I'll let it roast for a while. I'll get back on it someday. I'm glad you think that way.

they don't need to overlap, you see. there are various practice and belief system, that are working. their theory contradicts one another. yet they are all working. how do you explain that? mixing up systems it's not a great idea. because you cannot take a truth from here, and a truth from there, and make up your own truth. the truth doesn't exist. all that there is, is a massive incomprehensibly infinite mass of energy and awareness, everchanging. practicioners of all walks of life make wild guesses on it, but it still remains a mistery. and now for the explanation i found while researching the same topic: the energy of the time and the energy of the place where that system was created, allowed for particular features, that you will find nowhere else, in that form. it's another reason why you cant mix up: every system is made to fit a certain timeframe, spaceframe...