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Just for the record, it wasn't for you, but for someone that asked See ya

Just for the record - I gradually lost a big chunk of my interest. It's not the guy and what I've found out thru Mantra68, but my own personal feelings on it. This is to say he might really be "The Real MacCoy". And no more explanations please, I feel silly talking about obvious things. See ya

yes, very good PREREQUISITE. I asked about the goals This is getting BS-ing annoying. If you wrote that intro, you should know something about this system. Stop fooling around with cheep words. People are watching.

@cat - yes, and yes. i often even had spontaneous bliss experiences, which i could not link to anything that i did or deserved. those experiences happened mostly at work, making my concentration a little difficult, not to say more lately, with study, i kind of came to an awkward conclusion. bliss, it just is, we are not accustomed to receive it. we are ruled by the "fact" that life is suffering. BS. and one more thing i discovered experiencially, we are not accustomed to bliss and happiness. we have to gradually learn to "digest" it. this is regarded as a most secret practice. mostly because it is simple and within each of us's reach. but let secrets remain secrets @rain - thank you. i know i'm right. they say: bliss and emptiness? let's think again. the separation process must be mastered before we even begin to speak about emptiness. otherwise it becomes a dead end. you are right to be angry. folks, i would really like an answer to what i asked. i dont deserve it. but it would bring a clearer light on the matters discussed here, at least for me.

That's a killer Seriously, I wonder, Mantra68, what are the goals of the system. Pure bliss, even spontaneous bliss, doesn't seem to atract me. I am more interested in the ancient knowledge. Also, bliss, at least for me, doesn't seem to be a result, but a prerequisite for something else. Could you share that with us? L

Hear-hear... a toast to another strong example to the fact that, although we live in the same world, everyone of us is living in their own particular world, with their particular colours and definitions to the word "integrity". I want to share something: I always feel that people who dont respect each other, barely make an exchange of some sort. It's like their plugs dont plug. It's a minimum relationship, if such a thing can exist. Pietro, all, I read the article you recommend, and for me it shook something, and made me understand some things better. As for instance why being "Mr. Nice Guy" didn't work for me, and I didn't see it working for anyone. And yes, there are a lot of women out there that think being too nice to them is not very normal. I think maybe is because they have a different definition on affection, build up by education, parents etc... I tried hard to relate some way to that kind of women. But I couldn't. I couldn't even f..k them But to say all women are the same... Is like saying all men are pigs... I think Pietro's recommended article can indeed shake some things, and arrange them in a more proper way, for some, like me, for instance. I met that kind of women. And that kind of men. But I found their life insipid. They are not whole. They can't even respect themselves, or at the very least, they have a very poor, or even worse, misunderstood self-respect... Forgive me if I insulted anyone with any of my words. But this is why I feel like: people like the ones Pietro talks about, exist. And people like the ones VeeCee talks about, exist. All that I have to pay attention to is not to confuse them. Sex, God and Money are very delicate subjects. Please handle with care

ok... * takes a moment or two * say, you're right!

a little down to the south from you i guess

how remote?

witch, you're a total riot Iron she says, iron....

I also agree with Pietro's view. But I also have to add that what we know on DNA seems to change these days, as I mentioned on another topic. It's not only genetic engineering that can change your DNA. It seems we can do it, and we do it, on a daily basis. It's not the first time I hear the "junk DNA" theory, and it may explain some things. But just so you know, there is a growing oppinion out there that claims DNA is not the Absolute Ruler. DNA reacts to the environment. Even more, it reacts to our interpretation of the environment. It reacts to concepts, and beliefs. I hope guys like Pietro could investigate this and make a professional oppinion on it. Before you make any assumptions, please watch "The New Biology" by Dr. Lipton. PS: Witch, I seem to have taken a liking to ya. So I keep bombing info on you. For instance, you should know that the body stores energy as fat. What can this mean, regarding energy practice? How can this be overpassed? I wont answer these questions, I'm sure you will find a answer.

forgive me, but you have a pretty easy way to judge things the easy way

Also, you should check up the claims regarding genetic predispositions. Just google Dr. Bruce Lipton, it'll be worth your while. It's really a great post, you try to figure out what are the real benefits. Like Matthew, I wont try to convince you of anything. Just want to add my little experience to that, and let others draw conclusions: - if you practice without guidance and incorrectly, it is very possible that your practice will bring small benefits, or even can hurt you. - if you want to discover more about what the practices are, and how do the teachers understand them, you may come about a new and bewildering vision on the taoist practices. - there is more to HT and UTS than what meets the eye. What one needs is only to do it right. When you try to understand them, you really need commitment. The more you go into it, seriously and onestly, the more you may make out of it. - and yes, it's not the only way. If you dont get what you want from it, discard it and search something else... And when you dont understand something, dont blame it, blame your own ignorance

I dont think my work will ever be complete..... And I dont look at the end result with too many expectations...... All I have is a road, that gets surprisingly different, every time it makes a turn...... I still think my post has the soundest info. For her, that is....

you're not serious, are you........................

ok

please allow me to make a notice: you seem to have very good resources. but eventually even a lady's resources can drain up. i dont see you doing that just yet. better keep, as you say, an eye out for other insights. i too love to rely only on what my body says, of course, i'm young and restless. but it is the jonction between the mind, heart and body, the one that taoists call Yi - it knows better hey, youre on a taoist board, you should have learned a thing or two this is one of them. not the mind, not the body, not the heart. but them united. this is Yi. i dont think you can google out more on this. you should ask a qualified teacher, whatever qualified may mean. it could boost your performance and wisdom to ever higher levels. and.... should i tell you (i wonder if you will think i am playing the teacher on you) well.... here it goes. in energy and spirit practice, you need to build something. what? The Sorcerer's Crossing - Taisha Abelar This may give you a hint. Please enjoy in energy and spirit practice

can you tell me more about this "heart chackra" opening? every tradition has it. only it's a long way from where we stand. to open the heart is something else. you seem to talk about the chackra...

it has to do with the storage capacity

you really seem to have taken a liking to her

Men generally hunt women Who is addicted to who If men are the addicted party, is them who are the ones that are fed, not the other way around. That's why we just "need" to follow our girls around and around Why would the name "mama's" and "mamacita's" be tagged to your part of the human gender? The universe is feminine and nurturing. Men have that rare seed that can spring life. That's what makes them different and "out of place" and "out of balance" with Mother Nature. Women are more in balance with Nature, aren't they?

Men feed women energetically ? Seriously. You might want to check out again on that. ...I know you think you know But, with all due respect, I have serious doubts on that. You may have borrowed only the western perspective, which is poor and limitating. Look. If a man gives you sperm, it doesnt mean you can make use of it energetically. If you are to make use of it, you need really good training. But most of the energy men give to you, without proper training, you cant keep. So, with the vast majority, the male-feeding-thing doesnt happen. If you want a more apropriate perspective, search for Taisha Abelar books. It talks about this training A respected wich should be familliar with them

Me and my big mouth. Fellows, let's dropt this, shall we? Karma wasn't on the menu. We were talking about...? practice...?

"I've just had to gradually accept that I don't really exist in any of the ways I thought I did." I like this part, is something I am learning about these days. It can be taken many ways. I'm not sure we understand the same thing. Can you elaborate more? "Karma" Well, when we talk about it, it seems we talk about cause and efect, but it seems we use it more as a limitating term to ourselves. Belive me, I wouldnt like to be one of those wishfull thinkers that take everything the easy way. But I know there is a part of us that doesnt obey the laws of the matrix. And this is what counts for us.

Hello Ian, everyone. Just wanted to add a couple of thoughts. I have a couple of friends, that are really into one basic concept, and they build their mind around it They tend to overemphasize the importance of... karma. It's a great concept, maybe largely misunderstood, as with any part of the Dao, we all know that. One of my teachers calls karma the auto-pilot. He says, when you dont do anything, karma is a mechanism designed to run your life for you. When you start building the Dan, and work for enlightenment and freedom, you gradually leave "the program", "the mechanism". There is no other way. If they try to tell you that you have to follow the program of the matrix, and get enlightened... well... I have my doubts. My point is, keep the role of karma as low as you can. It has a role. Just dont make an excuse out of it. Yes, I agree with Taomeow, we grow when we rest. The practice has Yin Practice and Yang Practice. Someone really good with chinese astrology could explain this better, I think.