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A friend asked me about magic the other day. Most of what I've seen is magic of two kinds. 1. Chaos magic ("Black magic"). 2. Or magic where someone is helped in raising the level of their spiritual awareness ("White magic"). Now, truly I think that I've seen more chaos magic here on the internet, then any kind of positive magic. Neither do I like the terms "black" or "white" magic. I think that magic is like electricity, or even atomic power, and can plainly be used to do good or evil. I think that most chaos magic doesn't work very effectively, because most of it is done with a totally impure heart, and I frankly don't think that people who's who lives are in a mess are very effective magicians. How can their words contain all that much power, if they can't tell the truth about anything? Am I saying that negative magic has NO power, nope, but OK so you screw up someone's sleep, well OK, but that's not the same thing as killing them. Mostly, in my opinion, magic has to be believed in to be very effective. That's the key in chaos magic, I think. Can you get someone to believe in your BS, and began to get them to doubt themselves? On the other hand, to want someone to be raised to higher level of awareness or consciousness, and to have a better understanding and grasp of goodness, love, compassion, and virtue..........well, how can that NOT be a positive thing? I suppose if you violate their freewill it might be, but aside from that, if you perform magic on their behalf and they are aware of it, and agree with it, then I would see that as positive magic. I think these days that I find myself not drawn to ANY kind of magic, but only to more growth spiritually. And I personally find spirituality, a whole different kind of critter then magic. Religious Daoism seems to have a whole lot of various kinds of magic to it, and I personally find that not a part of the kind of Dao life that I'm interested in, or that I'm looking for. And that's not meant as an offense to anyone on this forum either. And maybe there's another kind of magic that I missed above, and that's defensive magic. Is it either positive or negative? Neither really, it's maybe a kind of shield, like the Purple Bubble that YaMu taught me. It's seems that if someone aims negativity or negative (chaos) magic at you, and gets harmed in return. Well, that's not really your fault. Is it now? Maybe we who are Seekers need to learn some good defensive magic, because the places that we walk are so fraught with danger, and we potentially can (or WILL) run into people that are out of balance (it's still "A Question of Balance", just as 'The Moody Blues' said so many years ago). Anyway, those are my thoughts about magic. It's ALL in the belief, or NOT, of both the sender, *and* the receiver. Just one opinion, and I'd be interested to hear more. Peace, gossamer

You know, I used to live out in New Mexico, the "enlightenment capital" of the United States. I have a policy, when someone actually says that they are "enlightened", or "born again", this absolutely means that they ARE NEITHER OF THESE THINGS. When I hear these words from someone, I run as quickly as possible, the other way. Question: Did Laozi write the Tao te Ching for "enlightened people"? Peace, gossamer

Of all the quotes presented by you here **NOT ONE OF THEM**conflicts with what he said on PBS. He doesn't believe in any kind of SURVIVAL of the human soul or spirit AFTER DEATH. To say "Life is Eternal", but I'm personally gonna be mulch for the worms and a part of the ecology.....AND THAT'S IT, is only to say "I don't personally believe in survival of the of the soul/spirit". All of those quotes really CONFIRM what he said on PBS. Peace, gossamer

Amen!

I hate to rain on this party..........but I saw Eckhart Tolle on PBS television and when the host of this program asked him "What do you feel happens to us after death?" Tolle's reply: "I think that we are just dead, and our bodies return to the dust from which we are made". He believes in NOTHING (that's far different then Nirvana!) after our life here on earth. If he was ANY kind of a Master, he'd know better then thinking in this way. And I have his book: 'The Power of Now', and I think that it's great! He's a great writer, but a pretty poor philosopher/"Master". Peace, gossamer

Yes, I'm in complete agreement that Yeshua (Jesus) is both the Son of God, and was the Son of Man when He walked here upon the earth. In fact, He might also STILL be the Son of Man, because I believe that he (still) has a body, different then ours, but yet He's still embodied with a physical body. Some food for thought. And for THIS day: "He is Risen!" Shlama (Peace, Wholeness---in Aramaic) gossamer

Dear Bum Grasshopper, There is a Syriac (a dialect of Aramaic) New Testament called 'The Peshitta' (or 'P'shitta'). It's much clearer then the Greek (or Latin, for that matter) versions of the New Testament. But that said, I think that ALL versions, especially the Greek versions, of the New Testament have places where things were "moved around", edited, and even added to, at a later date (then the originals). I think that the Gospels came to us ORIGINALLY as 'as ORAL STORIES'. The problems began when the "organized church(es)" got involved. As I said yesterday, I also think that the Gentiles lost all of their 'Roots' within Judaism, THAT'S when the disaster really began. I think that the Holy Spirit is Restoring the Jewish Roots, even within Christian Churches. But this is a S-L-O-W process that's meeting great resistance, within "Organized" Christianity. All of that said, I'm a Christian Friend (Quaker) and if the Quaker movement had not pretty much died off (except for a small band in Southeastern Ohio, and maybe 200 more Christian Friends scattered around the USA and Britian.....who are connected to the Friends in S.E. Ohio), it was in my estimate, pretty near how the original Jewish Believers worshipped and lived. I believe that Yeshua (Jesus) is the Messiah, just as he said that he was (and proved he was, in my opinion). But I've studied the New Testament, especially the Syriac version in the last few years, and I see real problems with later "editors". I've also studied the Tao Te Ching for YEARS, and I percieve that the original text was pretty much kept intact. This is apparent with the Silk Dao de Jing, and the later Bamboo strip Dao de Jing.......our modern versions of the Tao te Ching are VERY NEAR to these very early versions of the DDJ. I find it literally tragic that I cannot say the same thing for our modern New Testament. Peace, gossamer

Now THIS is the person who is supposed to be "healing me".......... "That is what I meant by "Gossamer deserve his own karma pay back" a long time ago. He love to do crazy stuff with people on the forum, internet, so what he get in return is the same problem too. Can't you just see the pattern of karma running? So let's say he is being attacked by black magic, what do you think he usually do to people he dislike? -------------------- ----- Mak Tin Si 麥天師 " FUNNY. Real funny. Ask David Screeton why he HACKED my book review here: http://www.amazon.com/Aramaic-English-Test...3386&sr=8-8 You can read my comments right after Dave Bauscher's review. David is A LIAR. His wife is A LIAR. You guys bought into he and and his wife's LIES. Oh well, believe whatever you will. Take the money, and help Sean with the website. That would be my desire. Mak Tin Si cannot "heal me" and say bad shit about me in the same sentence. That doesn't make ONE BIT of sense to me at all! I came here this morning with the INTENT of going along with this "healing".......and THEN I read Screeton's and Mak Tin Si's posts. Mak Tin Si believes that I AM the problem. Screeton, is of course, afraid that this "healing" will effect HIM (and his hacking and his negative magic) in some negative manner, that's why he DOESN'T REALLY IT WANT TO HAPPEN.......that's why he didn't want it to go on, when it was about to, when I wasn't here..........believe me or NOT, I don't really care. David Screeton is bullshitting the whole bunch of you. Very, very SAD. WHY can't you all 'see through' his bullshit?? Is your spiritual discernment really so very WEAK? Gossamer P.S. You guys SHOULD HAVE REALLY LISTENED to Paul Walter when he wrote THIS: "..........So, in summary--I recognise goss' pain as something complex and real. Something has happened which people aren't acknowledging and are actually getting sick of hearing (remember it wasn't acknowledged as something that happened to him in whatever form so Goss would feel the injustice of it if his claims are true or even exaggerated by pain, and like me he seems to be at wits end trying to be heard). The 'accussed' party has a very deliberate engagement pattern on this forum which is almost too reasonable and too willing and pops up at oppurtune times. There is too much repeated reasonableness in goss' outraged postings to ignore. I hope i am wrong on all of this and that goss is making shit up about people or is paranoid-but hey so was Hemingway!......................................I have come to learn that if someone asks for help they need it on THEIR terms first or they won't change because the initial fear/defensiveness about being misunderstood/hurt again comes into play. Again, I HAD to write this because the whole forum was so disturbing to me. this is all to bring things to light NOT to keep the fight going. In the 'end' the solution will be the same as what people said in the 'beginning'--letting go and moving on however best one can..."

I'd like to say that I'm a Christian Quaker ('Friend') and have been involved in Celtic Christianity, for many years as well. However, I honestly believe that Jesus ("Yeshua") came to completely reform/rebuild Judaism. And Yeshua came to fulfill very ancient prophecies in the Tanakh, or the Jewish Old Testament. ALL of the early Messianic Believers WERE JEWISH, they were NOT "Christians", and NEITHER WAS Yeshua! It was later that Gentiles started "Christianity". At first these were Aramaic speaking Assyrians, from The Church of the East, that lived in what is now Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, and Iran. The ancient Church of the East carried the Gospel far away on the Silk Road into India, China, and Tibet. There was a kind of synthesis between Christianity and Daoism in China. Here are some scholarly books that tell this story: 1. By Foot To China--Mission of The Church of the East, to 1400 by John M.L. Young 2. A History of Christianity in Asia (Volume 1) Beginngs to 1500 by Samuel Hugh Moffett 3. The Lost History of Christianity--The Thousand Year Golden Age of the Church in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia---And How It Died by Philip Jenkins 4. The Jesus Sutras--Rediscovering the Lost Scrolls of Taoist Christianity by Martin Palmer That A LOT of Lao Zi's teachings are VERY SIMILIAR to Yeshua's (Jesus') teachings in the Gospels, goes almost without saying. Did one Faith inspire the other, or did they grow indepently of one another?? These are the real questions. And neither of these religions would probably admit it NOW,even if it WAS true! But that there was a fusion between Daoism and Christianity IS AN HISTORICAL FACT, and is not speculation, or just some wild theory. 'The Jesus Sutras' by Martin Palmer is the best telling of this fascinating story.......if you've not read it yet, you SHOULD! Just my two pence worth. Peace, gossamer

Dear Stig and Tao Bums, I wanted to thank you all.......my Blessings even to those who haven't been on board for this. Stigwerd, I know that I don't really know you like a friend there in Oz might know you, but I wanna say that I Love you for doing what you've done for me......I know that it's not really "manly" to tell another man that you Love him in public. Apologies if I've embarrassed you. That's plainly NOT my intention. You've been so Compassionate and understanding and long-suffering through all of this. I don't really know what to say except 'Thank You!', and to tell you that I Love you! And thanks to Sean for his GREAT toleration for this spiritual program! Your Brother, Albion/gossamer

I also find it very interesting that NEITHER David, nor his wife, have showed up lately AT ALL!

Dear Stigwerd & Forum, This post will probably go over like 'a lead ballon', but these are some of the thoughts that I've had over the subject(s) that we all have discussed in these many posts. Over the years, especially as I've grown older, I've once again come to the conclusion that there is (literally) spiritual evil. I don't know if I want to make even an educated guess at it's origin, but that it exists, is in my opinion, beyond doubt. I know that "evil" is accepted in Religious Daoism, and in some sects of Buddhism and Hinduism, and of course it's accepted as existing by the Christian faith and within some sects of Judaism. But 'New Agers' and a lot of Philosophical Daoists deny it's existance altogether (some [most?] of Philosophical Daoists even deny the existance of a God, or any kind or sort of a Higher Power). But I've seen real evil and I believe that it exits. Why it exists is a nother whole question, that would take even more hours to speculate and wonder about. So, to write about a topic like 'evil' here on this forum, may be a really bad idea. I don't think that I can take the idea of evil being an "illusion", as serious, or even as an intellectually honest question (or suggestion). OK, so let's say that you can help to heal a person, I can accept that, but if the long term attack upon this person is being perpetuated by an evil force operating through a person who has fallen prey to disembodied evil (spirits), then how is healing person number 1, going to help with the attacks by person number 2, who is being manipulated by disembodied evil forces (spirits?)?? Yes, you can make person number 1, stronger by removing the stuff (curse?) that person number 2 has done, but how is that going to resolve the overall problem of evil using person number 2? Especially as person number 2 has probably opened himself to being used by evil (forces) against person number 1, in a long term 'spiritual vendetta'?? I'm certainly NOT opposed in any form to being HEALED, that's NOT what I'm saying here. Please don't blow me off by telling me that spiritual evil is "an illusion", or is only my perception, or something along those lines, because I've actually SEEN evil operating over a six year (going into year SEVEN now....) period. I have SEEN what evil can do, if someone (person number 2) opens himself to evil operating THROUGH him. This is NOT some illusionary idea, or something that arose from my early Christian training, but something that I've REALLY SEEN HAPPEN here on the earth plane that we live on. I've literally seen the person in question (person number 2) sell tee shirts that say "Evil Silver Crow" on them (and I might add that "Corvus Argentum", is only Latin, for "Crow, Silver"). So, here is a person accepting the self designation as "evil". And even selling tee shirts to further this idea. Now, I feel that you, Stigwerd, have probably abandoned the whole idea that there is spiritual evil, or if you do accept this term that you might think that evil is some idea of illusion, and evil has NO EXISTANCE as a spiritual entity.. There is nothing else that explains why someone would stalk someone all over the internet for over six YEARS. So, how is healing ME going to cause this evil to cease, and this magical/spiritual attack TO STOP?? Now, this whole post may be meaningless to you, because I have one of those gut feelings that you (Stigwerd) do NOT believe in, nor accept, the existance of spiritual evil. Again, I'm NOT saying that I do not want to be healed, but how is healing ME, going to cause these spiritual attacks/curses from person number 2 TO CEASE? Please, please do not try to tell me about illusion or that evil does NOT EXIST, I've seen too much over the last six plus years, to believe THAT. Thank you for your time and energy in replying, and thank you for really LISTENING TO ME. Shlama (Aramaic for: "Peace and Wholeness"), gossamer

Thanks a lot Vortex........most kind and compassionate. Your friend, gossamer

Dear Stig, Only one question here. Do YOU actually believe that what I'm saying has REALLY HAPPENED? Or are you one of those....."Stay on your meds........."kind of people?? I'd like you to answer this here in public, if you'd not mind. Thank you, gossamer

One of the best Tao Te Ching/Dao de Jing websites on the whole net: http://home.pages.at/onkellotus/TTK/_IndexTTK.html

I guess that I should say that in my younger years I experimented with magic as a Gardnerian (so-called) "wiccan", and later as a family/'Traditional witch'. I left all of that because I saw that 98% of it was about power, sex or money.....money, sex or power, sex, money or power, and that most the people involved were not the kind of people that I wanted to associate with, or to have as friends. I have in my later years been pretty involved with Celtic Christianity, Early Aramaic "Christianity", Quakerism, and with philsophical Daoism. Having said all of that, I think that negative entities pretty much need BODIES to work with and through. They USE (in the most literal sense of the word) human beings to work through. A lot of these types of people (but not ALL, by any means) are usually involved in occultic stuff, and don't mind being used, because they get "a charge" by being used.....and a lot of them are involved with the occult because of the three reasons that I spoke about in the second paragraph of this post. So, demons without "hosts", is a kind of oxymoron really. Demons need people=people need demons. Peace, gossamer

Dear Paul, Thank you for simply believing me. Only you and one other fearless 'Tao Bum' have actually believed me. The computer geeks have been the WORST, as they have ideas about what a very sophiscated hacker can really do, or NOT, but they don't take into consideration that this socio-path has been given hard ware and software that had been formerly used by the U.S. Government (the State Dept.) to hack our enemies overseas (with)! The geeks have NO idea what this man is REALLY capable of! He literally can install a keylogger, and other malware and spyware, into the BIOS of one's computer (while your online) because of the U.S. Government equipment that he has.....NO ONE believes this, but it's TRUE. But yet the BIOS space is rerally quite tiny, so HOW is this actually done......I don't know, but I know that he's actually capable of this. I have a notarized statement from an Arkansas Sheriff Dept. where David was publically overheard saying how he was going to murder one Tony ------, and dispose of his body, to where not even any of his DNA would ever be found! This is the kind of person that has been writing to all of you here on this forum pretending to be meek and mild.......REALLY IS! I can never go home to Arkansas to live there again, without having a shotgun beside the bed, and a pistol with extra magazines, on the bedstead. Who WANTS to live like that? I would finally have to kill this SOB, when he came to kill me, and I have NO desire to kill anyone! Tell me that it's not extremely SAD that I can never go home to live there, ever again?? He brags about being a former U.S. Navy SEAL, whether this is really true or not, who knows, because he LIES about EVERYTHING! Before he was married, his magic was non-existant, AFTER he was married, his magic is better...............what does THAT really say?? That he's cursed me (or someone ELSE that he knows or associates with, has cursed me) goes without saying. So Stigwerd, if you're reading this, there's a heads up. I might be able to airmail a photo of myself to you by April 9th, 2009, IF you want me to send you a photo of myself, please send me your snail mail address in a PM ASAP, if not, that's kool too. Here's some more of this whole story: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us...May/145072.html Guidelines Thanks again for really hearing me Paul! Your friend, gossamer

I'd like to reply to the Tao Te Ching question. We have probably around 40 translations of the TTC/DDJ. Here's the skivvies. Translators translate in one of two ways. Word-per-word, or they "paraphrase". The great word-per-word translators are: Red Pine, David Hinton, Jonathan Star, John C.H. Wu, Michael Lafargue, Philip J. Ivanhoe, and Robert G. Hendricks. Sam Hamill and Arthur Waley, are both GREAT translators, but neither of them translated word-per-word. Two more great translations are done by Hua-Ching Ni,who operates his own lineage and training centers. And one more really great translation is by Liu Qixuan (it's called: 'The Way'). It's especially good for those with Christian backgrounds, as Qixuan juxtaposes the TTC against the Gospels. My personal favorites are by David Hinton, and Red Pine, both of which are excellent!! Peace, gossamer

Dear Stigwerd, YES, if it's YOU, I'll go along with any kind of healing that you could perform. While I think that you have believed David and his wife, to a certain extent, I also believe in your heart of hearts, that you truly want GOOD for me, and others. It must be remembered that I've hated this guy for years, he's runined large portions of our lives for over SIX YEARS NOW, and he seems to have NO intention of ceasing his stalking me all over the internet. Not to mention that he's cost us somewhere over $6000.00 these last six years. I absolutely meant what I said about the carwreck and David. I have no remorse over this, it'd be a far better world WITHOUT him. That said, YES, I'll go along with YOU doing any sort of healing that you'd choose. If you can deal with all of what I've said, my answer is YES. Peace, gossamer

1. First, I'm *NOT* gonna get into it with Mak Tin Si again, over "donations". 2. David says when I write about him he finds what I say by searching search engines for his name. Fucking liar. There is a KEYLOGGER on this computer with which he gets a print out of every word that anyone types on it! And you all BELIEVE every word that he says! Are you STUPID or do you just have completely NO spiritual discernment??? David is a HACKER/CRACKER, and THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS that St. Vincent's Infirmary FIRED HIM FOR. He SPAMS PORNOGRAPHY FOR A LIVING. See, David already KNOWS ALL OF THIS, it's NOT news for HIM! Or his wife! Here's Stigwerd calling David's wife "Dear"...........gee's, I really appreciate your "NEUTRALITY" Stig! OK, I honestly appreciate everyone's HELP, and everyone trying to help ME. I really DO! David and his wife are LYING, you all BELIEVE THEM. Fine, have you ever gone to the 'Original Arkansas Witches' website and actually read about this guy? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Original...group&slk=1 "Silver Crow"? He's a scumbag, and has been for YEARS. Why does he hack google and take off the bad shit OTHER PEOPLE say about him?? (People who are NOT ME) Because he doesn't want it read! Why did he pretend to be "A Nazarene" and hack my review at Amazon.com? Because he's like A MERCENARY, and will deal his hacking services out to ANYONE.......AS LONG AS THEY *HATE ME TOO*!!! And Stig believes all of David's SHIT, and people here say "How grounded" that he and his wife are! What a riot! ROTFLMAO! Do something nice to help SEAN with that money. He's been long suffering through ALL OF THIS. PLEASE, help SEAN. There are at least 100 road blocks to all of this, and they did NOT happen "by accident". Ponder THAT, and help SEAN. gossamer

Me disrespecting Mak Tin Si? It seems the other way around, to ME. Furthermore, I've NOT been involved in magic since 2002. And THEN it was becoming 'One' with the Spirit of ancient Britian, also known as "Albion". But I I absolutely DO hate and despise David Screeton, and if he was destroyed tomorrow in a car wreck or whatever, I'd not lose even one minute of sleep! In fact, instantly the world would become a BETTER PLACE, for MANY people, and NOT just FOR ME!! I've NEVER cursed David, EVER, and I highly resent someone implying that I am involved with negative magic! That this group CANNOT "see through" David's LIES, is utterly amazing to me. There are one or two fearless people who seem to have 'clear vision' (spiritually) here, but they are the exception to the rule! I've told you THE TRUTH, and it's not from being crazy, I just told you what's REALLY HAPPENED TO ME. It's your CHOICE to believe me, or NOT. But I HAVE told you the TRUTH, the whole time. gossamer

I don't know just WHO the fuck that you THINK that you are, but both the FBI and the U.S. Secret Service KNOW THAT'S it's POSSIBLE, and they KNOW that's it's happening, and that he's (DAVID) doing it!. I'm tired of being called a liar, fuck you , you don't know me from Jack Shit. I'm NOT lying, and I'll post a statement from a Police Agency in Arkansas within the next two days. Proving (ONCE AND FOREVER) what kind of person that your beloved David REALLY IS. You don't like what I post, call the Police agency and call THEM "LIARS". Your a mean son of a bitch WITHOUT ANY REAL Compassion. And ..........just for the road, get fucked again. Albion P.S. After I post the info from Arkansas, I'll leave this list, and you have my WORD, I'll NEVER RETURN.