Li Jiong

It is not a new system, but a very very old system with a history of about 7000 years. What Taiji, Xingyi, Bagua all originated from our school. Yet I do not have the time to introduce this system in detail in English, if you can read Chinese, perhaps you can access my Chinese Blog at http://i.cn.yahoo.com/newyiquan for the detail.

Wuji posture is the foundation of our ancient Tao cultivation system. It is very efficacious for health and power. Hetu, Luoshu, Taiji, Wuxing, Bagua are the source of Chinese traditional culture, all magic secrets are hiden in these pictures.

Wuji Standing

Wuxing 五行

Hetu 河图 Luoshu 洛书

Hun 混 Dun　沌 Hong　鸿 Meng　濛 Ling　灵

Thanks for the welcome! The original Taiji is very meaningful, now, I can just tell you the name of each part, the black area we call it 'Hun', the red area we call it 'Dun', the white area we call it 'Hong', the blue area we call it 'Meng', the center area we call it 'Ling'. Thanks old friend! our group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cultivation/) is open for all old friends who did support me before, welcome to join us when you feel free. Thank you for your interest!

Chinese Xian suggests one achieves immortality (both spiritual and physical) via cultivation. Daoism is a worldly religion, Daoists may get some theory of cultivation, but most of them are worldling, they get some surface knowledge of cultivation and inappropriate request immortality, but never really pay attention to cultivate their Dao De. Therefore, few of them really achieved immortality, many claimed they would be immortal after death though. And again, this fact striked people's confidence of cultivation. So, for the real cultivators, it is important to distinguish religion and cultivation, don't try to seek out immortality from religion.

Thank you for your advice. I hope I can pilgrimage all over the world one day when my finance allows. Thank you for your kindness, Smile. I am doing well on my personal cultivation, and now I hope to share my experience to more cultivators.

mat black, about 'obtain a greater capacity for wealth', I do not have personal experience yet. I think thaddeus may be more experienced in this field. 'The gabby talkers are short of tactics, I would rather keep my Shen in my center.' My words here are over, Good Luck!

About personal wealth and energy level, in Daoist view, personal wealth belongs to one's Houtian fortune, it is close related with one's Houtian energy level; cultivation level is close related with one's Xiantian energy level. Houtian energy and Xiantian energy can be transformed each other under certain conditions. But generally, cultivators would not like to consume their Xiantian energy to get in return of wealth, unless one's wealth cannot maintain his/her life and cultivation. If one holds overfull personal wealth, but he/she is still eager for earning money, basically, we can judge he/she is not a real cultivator. Houtian fortune can be transformed into Xiantian fortune by cumulating secret merits using one's wealth, one can also learn cultivation from cultivators using his/her money, actually, this is also a way of cumulating secret merits. One cannot bring any wealth when he/she leaves the world, many moneybags hold overful wealth but they are still eager for earning money, don't know they can transform their Houtian fortune into Xiantian fortune to approach immortality, those guys are extremely silly. One's overall energy level is his/her Xiantian energy level plus his/her Houtian energy level, for a cultivator, often, his/her Xiantian energy level is much higher than his/her Houtian energy level. I was a doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine before, about ten years ago, I gave up this position to cultivate myself whole-heartedly. If I stay in this position, my personal wealth will be much more than now I holding, but obviously, if as a doctor, I don't think my overall energy level will be higher than me now as a professional cultivator.

Thank you for your understanding and support, Harry. I do not want to argue with anybody, I just try to present myself as exact as possible Thanks for the welcome.

Actually, the prices that I ask for my offering are not high. A course can be practiced for years, and I just ask for tens of dollars. If you come to China to learn such a course, you may spend thousands of dollars. Furthermore, even if you would like to pay thousands of dollars, it is still not easy to find a qualified teacher who would like to teach you. I am curious why you think these prices are "extremely high"? According to your opinion, then Bill Gates must be the one who has the highest overall energy level in the world, funny

Thank you for your insight, it is helpful for me. Daoist Practice is not a religion; it is also not only spiritual. For a religion, its main interest is drawing more people into their circle, and little by little, control people's thoughts, let them grovel under an icon. But Daoist Practice tries to release one's soul, because immortality must come from self-realization. It cultivates one's self-governed consciousness and habit from the just beginning. So a Daoist will not teach a student without sake, of course, the sake is not must money. Free offering will result in one's grateful mentality, and often, that will be a start of idolatry. So long as one gets in idolatry, in substance, his/her life is destroyed. We'd better alert to the free offering extremely.

Thank you for your understanding. IMO, the emergence of Daoist culture in the west in this time is not incidental. In the recent centuries, science develops very quickly, the main religions such as Christianism, Buddhism and Islam they all could not withstand the challenge of science. That's because these religions all have strong desires of expansion, and they intruded into the realm that does not belong to religion. Some knowledge of the world from these religions is very absurd in nowadays. These foolish overstepping the bound endanger the faith to themselves, so as to they have to maintain the faith of their followers by superstition. Of course, it is a vicious circle and cannot be efficient for long. On the other hand, science has its own limitation. We do not mention the nuclear shadow and the pollution of the environment, but the spiritual problems, that could not be solved by science, and if we cannot solve the spiritual problems, we will not be really happy whatever how much wealth we hold. Daoist culture focuses on the Xiantian world mainly, and it does not have a strong desire of expansion. Therefore, it got involved in the mundane world very few. And it has an efficient practice system to solve the ultimate problems of life, such as oldness, death, life sublimation and immortality; those are all cannot be solved by science whatever how great it develops in the future. Because Daoist culture insists in soul independence, and opposes idolatry, in the history, often, the governors did not like it, and it has not a strong desire of expansion itself. Although Daoist culture has a history much longer than whatever Christianism, Buddhism or Islam, it has not spread widely yet. Nowadays, following the popularization of Internet, the souls have better and better conditions to develop independently, Daoist culture gets a suitable soil to grow now. And whatever we like or not, globalization is a certain tendency. The emergence of Daoist culture in the west is inevitable. There is a prediction now. It is said that a successful Daoist cultivator left the world last year, before he left the world, he said out a prediction: Daoist culture will develop vigorously after A.D. 2008; this development will not be driven by the Daoist monks in the temples, but will be driven by the young cultivators in the society. A.D. 2008 is not far, let's wait and see what happens.

Thank you for your insight, freeform. Now I know why I incurred so many rancors, it is because my offering harms those 'masters' benefits, so as to they could not deceive themselves and others as easy as before. Clarification: Gongfu has at least 1,500 years of oral tradition; Dao De Jing has a history of about 2,500 years; Houtian Bagua Practice has about 3,000 years of oral tradition; and Xiantian Bagua Practice has about 7,000 years of oral tradition. My offerings are all not worked out by me in a hurry. I am just the one who documented or translated these materials. Thank you for your support, Smile, and Plato

Thanks for the information, Wayfarer. I also feel puzzled why my offering incurred so many rancors. Normally, if one thinks something is too expensive, he can do not buy it, no one will force him to buy, and he loses nothing, why do some people hate something just because it is expensive? Someone said, "the enlightened teachers and beings and such is a desire to help change the world, and to really help others, out of compassion, asking for nothing in return", but actually, nothing is really free. I would not like to act as a savior. I offer my knowledge and service, and the customers pay me money, we are equal and that's all. I think this is real humility, instead of acting as a savior with humble words. For the ones who claim that they charge nothing, I always stay at a respectful distance from them, I am afraid that the price is my soul for a free lunch. My purpose is immortality, others are all the instruments to serve for this purpose. Everyone should save self by oneself, don't expect a savior.

Thank you for your kindness, Wayfarer. Daoist culture is yet not popular in the world, and often, it is very hard to sell something really helpful for one's life. But I still love to do so. Actually, I got a lot of payment beyond money. Good luck with your book too.

Thank you for you praise thelerner. But actually, I just want to promote my business, I am afraid that has nothing to do with 'gracious'.

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Thanks. However, now I realize that Plato is right, this is something unsellable. It is my mistake that I try to sell something unsellable. Therefore, at least, I will not try to advertise it any more.