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TI, Shugden is irrelevant to Tsongkhapa. It was incorporated into the Gelugpa lineage, true, but Shugden came about long after Tsongkhapa already passed away.
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I hope he doesn't since it's nonsense. He's Buddhist.
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You don't read your own links it seems. Tsongkhapa himself had nothing to do with him, it is not part of his teachings at all. The Dalai Lama once practiced this "protector" but then after some research realized it was a mistake and stopped. The 5th Dalai Lama tried to destroy this "protector" but failed it seems. The 13th Dalai Lama also discouraged this practice if I recall correctly.
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That was Kunzang Dechen Lingpa Rinpoche.
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Introduction to Dzogchen Retreat with B Alan Wallace
Pero replied to konchog uma's topic in Buddhist Discussion
I have explained why according to my understanding that isn't so but you seem to have missed that post. Also, I think it has to do with the teacher's intention as well. You're missing the point. I'm not saying one can't receive transmission through dreams (however I do think that for it to be something authentic one has to be quite far along on the path, not an ordinary person like us). I'm saying that that's not what mind to mind transmission means. I looked if there's an explanation in one of the public books I have but couldn't find it. Perhaps it is in the "Dzogchen, The Self-Perfected State", I don't have that book. I wouldn't be, since if they were mere spirits they weren't giving authentic Buddhist teachings.- 451 replies
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Pero replied to konchog uma's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Wellllllllll as a matter of fact, many Dzogchen masters when they die leave a last testament. So I guess you could say it does.- 451 replies
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Dude, are you serious? I think any further discussion is pointless. Though now I suppose it was so from the beginning.- 451 replies
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I'm sorry but this really has nothing to do with it. Like I told you before, you are importing your own ideas into things that mean something completely different.- 451 replies
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Right. It has nothing to do with astral planes, dreams and whatnot.- 451 replies
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Sorry but he really doesn't.- 451 replies
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You say that only because what he is saying agrees with your own views. Sure. I think you haven't read well enough. It says you have to be in the same state at the same moment. And "knowledge of the transmission" is not the method for the transmission. For the method you have to be at the same time. That is my understanding anyway. Yup. Sure, no disagreement there.- 451 replies
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Pero replied to konchog uma's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Haha, except I see no contradiction with that view either. In Vajrayana, methods exist that utilize "winds" and whatnot and they work. Thinking of it as something more mysterious like subtle energy or as something more ordinary like nerves or whatever makes no difference.- 451 replies
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Sure I do. But I don't see why you can't consider that a normal bodily function?- 451 replies
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I probably don't disagree with anything Rinpoche said (sorry but to be more specific you'd have to tell me which quotes you mean... it's been a really looooong week for me). 'm not really sure what a "normal" human body system is. What is an abnormal one? But I think I can tell you that Vajrayana as a whole is based on the body. That's a key difference from the rest of Mahayana (which is based on mind only) and the reason for it's speed.- 451 replies
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They don't. Uhm, you know, Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche, the guy who gives Dzogchen teaching and the person on the replays? No I didn't. Don't know where you got that idea from. First of all, those instructions are not the actual Flight of the garuda, which was written by Shabkar. They are from Patrul Rinpoche. Second, those instructions are received from a teacher. It might be strange to you, but in Tibet people didn't just read stuff and then do it. They went and receieved transmission. Right, Dowman's translation isn't restricted. Erik Pema Kunsang's is. And Tony Duff warns in the introduction to receive transmission first. But more importantly than any of them, Shabkar himself says in his book that you need to receive instructions from a teacher. Considering that it's been that way since forever and people get results from doing it that way why would any reasonable person think it otherwise or waste time trying to figure it out? I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with Dzogchen. This was just an experience from a Dzogchen POV. Oh yes of course, Shabkar, Longchenpa, Padmasambhava, Paltrul Rinpoche, Jigmed Lingpa,Vimalamitra etc. etc. they were all propping up the belief system in order to convince themselves of their validity. Come on man....- 451 replies
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Yeah of course, I didn't want to make you worried or something haha.- 451 replies
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Those aren't from Dzogchen, they're Mahamudra Mahasiddhas. See this is your problem. You are interpreting the texts according to your own ideas and are unable to comprehend that what something means to you is not necessarily the same thing as the meaning the text intended. Even if you look at Buddhism only, the same words in sutra can have a completely different meaning in tantra and a different meaning yet again in Dzogchen. Sometimes even the same word in Dzogchen can have different meanings depending on more specific context. So while you are interpreting Dzogchen words according to your own ideas, others are following the real meaning taught by teachers of the past. The latter is verified, the former is not. So people will be giving you a hard time when you try to import your personal ideas into Dzogchen teachings. "Wind" is the translation for rlung BTW.- 451 replies
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Hi TI, Because Rinpoche said so multiple times. I actually think it could be possible though. But what I think is irrelevant since the teacher giving the transmission is saying otherwise and we should act according to the teacher and not according to our own ideas. Well, it wasn't a load of crap to teachers and students in the past. Dilgo Khyentse too for example restricted it to those who have at least received direct introduction. You know it's always funny how people don't really think through this kind of an example. Garab Dorje wasn't an ordinary human like you and me. I think he wasn't even human actually but a Buddha from birth. At the age of 8 the dude recited a Dzogchen tantra and also defeated a bunch of learned panditas in debate. .... But yeah, you can get transmission on your own... After a lot of hard work and probably not just one life. And after already receiving transmission from someone else haha (unless you're some kind of emanation already). EDIT: BTW TI, Shabkar himself says in his book that you need to receive the instructions from a teacher....- 451 replies
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Here is Rinpoche's schedule: http://www.dzogchen.it/CNN-shcedule_20120414.pdf Don't know if all retreats will be webcasted, but most will. I think it's really hard to know what it's all about and what to do after from just attending a WWT. While during a teaching retreat Rinpoche gives explanations and advice, so everything is much clearer. Haha.... I think you can learn from the book, the problem is just that it's hard to learn how to pronounce mantras from just that and impossible to learn the melodies. Though first time you could always just try to recite along and/or keep the meaning in mind. BTW, I think what's done on WWT's is now posted on the webcast page.- 451 replies
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He gives it a lot more often than that. There's a webcast or more than one every month. You can get direct introduction at the end of December during the Guru Tragphur teachings. And personally I think it's much better to attend a webcast of a retreat than just the WWT. I'm afraid that you need to know what you're supposed to be doing. So getting an explanation is not really optional. Be careful, it might not be on that long... (btw you can't get transmission from Rinpoche from the replay) Nope. He was always taking his Dzogchen practice seriously. But he already accepted he was going to do die (he had some prophecy from his root teacher and someone else that his life was going to end around that time), had no regrets except for one if I remember right. Then after a while he started thinking maybe he could try to do something and he started doing the long life practice of Mandarava "seriously" and with that and the help of experimental drugs cured himself of a practicaly incurable disease. The movie had a kind of sad tone for me too. But I think it was kind of made that way. Hard to judge from just that. It's like if you'd saw me once in a bad mood and conclude I'm always like that.- 451 replies
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Thanks dude, I'm going to steal this and share on FB.
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LOL, it's probably Alwayson. It's probably better if you just ignore him.
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How to transform Prison Planet Earth into Immaterial World of Neither-perception-nor-non-perception ?
Pero replied to tulku's topic in General Discussion
No, it isn't. It has buddhadharma present (at least on this planet) plus a good mixture of happiness and suffering. So it is the best place to be (excluding special realms I suppose). Hate to break it to you, but no one can end samsara. One can only end samsara by and for oneself. Well I just hope you're not planning to commit suicide or something. -
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Why would we want to? The formless realms are perhaps the most unwanted places to be reborn in in Buddhism, the worst prison possible really. They are not nirvana as you seem to think. They are just the highest states of existence possible. But this is still within samsara. I've read that the human realm on the other hand is the most desirable to be born in. Actually is also says so in your very link... -
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