Oolong Rabbit

So if the master sucked the life force out of another human being instead of the bulls, would you still have the same opinion brother? Out of curiosity, are you more interested in obtaining power or liberation? Sounds a lot like moral relativism Darebak. I think you may have actually stumbled upon the solution. Stop relying on the logical mind to rationalize what is right and wrong and trust your feelings/instincts.

Hi Agharta, I have been considering buying Marena's book on the orgasmic diet. I am wondering if her diet may be some sort of fastpath to building up jing. Trunk also has a great succint little article on coccyx breathing which has helped me, but I am wondering if you have any pointers or books to recommend on this practice. Could you give a little more detail on the technique you employ. As for your advice on diets, what is your take on caffeine? I believe it just stimulates your existing jing rather than produces it.

I would strongly recommend staying away from caffeine as well. Especially in commerical joints that use high doses like starbucks etc.... I speak from experience here. I had been holding off for around 3 weeks with almost no effort. I was surprised at how little it bothered me because my sex drive is usually fairly healthy. To make a long story short, I ended up working the weekend as a last minute thing. Both days I drank large coffees from one of the popular coffee chains. Both days I was horny as hell to the point of blue balls and couldn't take it anymore. Maybe it's coincidence, but I have noticed multiple times in the past when caffeine has had this effect. Coincidentally this effect seems to be much much stronger when I buy the chain coffee than if I brew my own at home. I have even wondered if there are other chemical addictives in the coffee in addition to caffeine. I went so far as to research this, but they claim that there are no 'additives'. My only other guesses are that they are using genetically altered coffee beans which produce a higher level of 'naturally' occuring caffeine, or the way they brew it concentrates the caffeine more highly.

Good luck with celibacy. I lasted 3 weeks I think which was a record for me. See Trunks essay on coccyx breathing. If you get aroused, touch your tongue on the roof of your mouth and inhale while focusing your intent on breathing through the coccyx and moving the energy up the spine and through the skull. Then let the energy fall down to your lower dantien. I found this technique could deflate an erection pretty quick. You might then want to do some silent meditation for a few minutes depending on how worked up you were. Energy, pressure and pulsing in my head, yes. Headaches no. I would take that one up with Mantra.

Hi Spectrum, Received the package. Thanks a bunch man. I was a bit skeptical a first, but these kung fu sticks are kind of addictive. The kids enjoy them too, and actually seem like naturals with the movements. The larger stick really moves the shoulder socket which is what my left side needs. The smaller stick works the wrists and tendons. I may bring thar one in to work. I haven't had my "brain energized" like David Caradine yet, but I will keep trying . Thanks again!

Taking this over to the other Kunlun thread since we are veering off topic on this one.

Curious, are guys eating/drinking before practice? Do you find you get more heat/sweating if eating or drinking beforehand? What is your fitness level, overweight, average? Would like to compare to my own experience. I usually get some heat, but only had 1 experience where I had extreme heat. Also the heat could maybe be a byproduct of burning away the blockages in your system. Once the blockages and "junk" is cleared, I wonder if the heat will die down. Ironically, I have found since practcing my body seems to be more sensitive to the cold. Where I used to sleep in my scivies or nothing at all ( I know TMI lol), I now prefer PJ pants and a long sleeve shirt. Then again I am 32, so perhaps my matbolism is just slowing down due to age. The timing would be coincidental though.

Dang. Why couldn't Lin have studied at the Temple of Luxurious Warmth and Coziness?

Just a thought Lin, but I used to work in a hotel during university and they can get pretty noisy. Especially if there is a motivational seminar or some other craziness going on in the room beside you. We might be better off at a church hall or something like that. If not, we will make the best of it .

Guessing that it is just a safety precaution. Keep in mind it is a book for mass consumption. There would just be too many variables depending on the reader to spell out what would mix, and what the effects may be. Kind of like saying don't take this medication with other medications without first consulting your doctor. At least this is my take on it. I am not saying what it is or isn't, just that it seems to produce some results. Besides, I enjoy my tai chi and wouldn't want to give it up Probably because the question has never been asked I don't claim it's the best. It's just a path, one of many. Yes. If you ever travel back in time, don't step on anything because even the tiniest change can alter the future in ways you can't imagine.

This is a tough one. On the one hand it's great to see others having similar experiences. It's sort of a confirmation, that you're not deluding yourself or imagining things. On the other, there is always the possibility of unintentionally leading others astray, as well as the possibility of fostering attachment to experiences.

Yoda, Do you think the transmission helped you, or was it more Max refining your posture etc...?

Not sure, what his lineage is exactly, but he has a whole series of taoist health/longevity chi kungs. The guy is in his eighties. I will let you know what the vids say. P.S. Found a much cheaper place that ships directly from China: http://us.yesasia.com/en/Search/SearchResult.aspx just search "taoist" Naturally I find the link the day after i put in my order

I just bought the two Tao Family Secret Training DVD's as well as the complete set of taoist "Traditional Valuable Health Preservation Series" including the "taoist feces exercise". This guy sure looks like he can crap thunder:

I have tried not to focus too much on the phenomena, or post about it anymore. I don't want to give the impression that I am chasing after these things or manufacturing them. For me though, Kunlun seems to be really focused on the third eye and crown. During practice, I feel energy pressurizing in the skull around my forehad and third eye. I have had experiences where I have "seen" inside my own body. Often when I close my eyes, I can sttill "see" my legs as light. Ironically I have only had one experience I would call blissfull. After about 40 minutes of practicing, this wave of tranquility reverberated through my body. I sat there for several minutes in complete peace and calm. It was very subtle, yet very powerful at the same time.

She could have genuinely been attracted to your energy. I think society has become so hollow and souless, that when people see someone with proper energy they are attracted like moths to a flame. On the other hand, and this is just a theory... but I half wonder if the "ego" (maybe not the correct term here) starts attracting these things intentionally to divert your attention and energies. I think the ego or lower self fears it's demise and will manifest things in an attempt to throw you off the path. If your weakness is in the love department more and more women will manifest. It could also be money or any other number of thngs. You might get promoted at work and have more responsibilities thrown on you to eat up your time. This is similar to the theory that "powers etc..." which arise during meditatation are often just traps to lead you astray. We see paralellels with the temptations of Buddha and even Jesus. The irony is once you are off the path, your practice dwindles and the manifestations fade and disappear.

"man-meat", "log-splitter", "fur burger" hahaha Why do I get an image of anthropologists unearthing a laptop a thousand years from now and trying to decypher the mystic Tao Bum code. There would of course be one school which believed that the posts were allegorical and that we hid the true meaning from the unitiated. The other school of thought would be that the posts must be taken literally. We were cannibals who practiced log-splitting gong.

Hey all, I had an interesting dream last night, and thought it would be cool to start a thread where people could share their dreams and dream experiences. So here goes. Last night before falling asleep I quietly asked to meet any masters that could help me in my spiritual development. Just before waking I had a pretty vivid dream. I met a young middle eastern looking man (younger than me at 32) and instantly we recogmized each other. He said "you probably recognize me from the forums" (I believe he meant tao bums ), "I was the boy who stood all day long.". The standing was standing meditation and I somehow understood that this meant he was naturally talented with meditation from a young age. He said said he had a party to attend but invited me stop by giving me only a street address. I asked which number and he said to just listen for the party. I walk up and down this street in a not so good part of town and find a house with a party, but he is not there and I am not sure if I am at the right party or not. And then........well and then someone knocked on my door and woke me up So there it is. Much better than the dream I had last week where I experienced someone else getting murdered. Maybe more on that another time.

If you would have just posted the link without saying "technically not a post", I would agree. However, saying "technically not a post" constitutes a post.... technically speaking

Hi Peregrino, Do you think this would help one achieve full lotus? It seems like it primarily stretches the groin, and I think full lotus also needs the gluteus maximus loosened up.

Yes but I would rather not distribute it around. I think there are masters out there with real abilities, but I personally do not believe that Jiang is amongst them. As for Lama Max, I am not really sure what to make of him, but it doesn't matter because Kunlun seems effective regardless. Same may go for David and his foundation training. BTW, there was a video on the web a while back demonstrating how this can be faked by using a capacitor or something from an old tv. The charge stayed in the body, and he was burning paper from a distance without touching it. The shirt demo, though I think is more likely a chemical being used.

I can't believe I never noticed this before, but in light of what Neikung wrote I took another look at the videos again. In case you guys didn't know youtube and other online video files get saved to your computer's temp directory as .flv file. You can download a freeware program like flvplayer and watch youtube videos on your own pc. In the turtle demonstration Jiang has a device attached to his belt. When he is supposedly "exherting his chi" what he is doing is contracting his abdominals and triggering the device on his belt just like what neikung's friend described. Can you find it here? Hint look inside the red circle. Arm goes up.... Arm goes down, abs tighten around device... and zap... instant yin yang gong Yeah I know, I know. It's just a pager in case the immortals need to get a hold of him. How long are you guys going to keep up your willing suspension of disbelief?

Whoever put it up pulled it down.

I have frequently. There are a lot of good people there, and a lot of interesting information. I don't particularly like all of the secrecy and guru-worship, but it' Sean's house, so I don't say much. I know it wasn't addressed to me, but I will throw in my 2 centavos. Take a look at my original comments regarding the clips. Jiang handled and "fluffed" up the shirt both times for no apparent reason. Then after he drops one of them I could swear I see some sleight of hand happening where he pockets something. Also one of the shirts is a fire proof shirt which also burns. Guessing that would be caused by a chemical. Have you seen the clips? This newest information just adds more weight to my original suspicions.

Sean, that's not what he said. He said on your forum what I described in my previous post. And all this talk sounds like Jiang is some sort of carnivale sideshow act performing at David's beck and call.