Ya Mu

Vajrasattva posted the basic method of cleaning. Personally I do it by first setting my INTENT, then projecting energy until I SEE the difference. This is why I know that simply saying thanks, which in my opinion is a really good thing to do, does nothing to actually clean the food. I usually don't post exact methods because of the people reading who have not done qigong that try things at home which could possibly be dangerous for them. I did say, or thought I did, at the beginning of the thread that anyone who is an accomplished practitioner can do this, and defined accomplished practitioner as one who did time&effort energy practice. One reason it may not be such a good idea for non-practitioners to try is the following. Of course everyone, including non-practitioners, have the ability to do some of this, as everyone has life-force energy. But what happens when a person tries to clean several particularly bad batches of food? If they are a practitioner, they have learned about sick qi and how to deal with it. But if they are not, then they can absorb the sick qi from the food which defeats the whole purpose of cleaning it. Furthermore they could take it upon themselves to clean other people's food and get really bad sick. I believe transmutation is more advanced than cleaning and I don't think a responsible teacher would post the "how to do this" on the internet. Just my opinion. And Ian, I think if we were to meet, get a good pint of Guinness each (or coffee or whatever you like), and communicate, that we would find each other to be OK fellows.

I do rebounding qigong and find it very helpful (the miniature trampolines, rebounders). Not high impact at all. Very energizing and I think it could help in many situations.

What happens when you allow spontaneous movement instead of fighting it?

Your style of writing doesn't bother me at all. Rather than participating in the thread you are personally criticizing me for being a teacher. You may wish to try contributing instead of negativism and see if that makes you feel better. Posting a thread on Taoist energy arts is speaking highly of oneself? Funny. I have never said any such thing. All my information is quite public. What I find tasteless and arrogant are people who don't know anything trying to tell others looking for real information things that have no meaning. And this isn't directed at you, in fact it seems to me your prior posts have been quite the opposite. Are you not feeling well today? Never said that. If someone teaches mathematics are they a mathematics teacher if they only show their students how to add without acknowledgement and understanding of subtraction, multiplication, and division? These are basic things a teacher that called themselves a mathematics teacher should know. Could a person that called themselves a basic mathematics teacher and all they did was wave their arms be a mathematics teacher? So it is the same with any particular subject. Qigong is no different. Not necessarily. Have you tried it? I have found, for me, helping others is not about money. I have found, for myself, that there are rewards for helping others that transcend money. Don't really care what you believe. I have found that there are those that wish to learn and those that do not. No amount of anyone posting anything is going to change that. If you don't have anything to contribute to the thread and don't find the subject interesting why don't you simply not read anymore of the thread if the subject, poster, and content brings about this type of reaction?

By all means believe whatever you wish. It is easier to criticize a teacher than to listen to him. I started the thread because I wished to share that there is a method for cleaning and transmuting food that gives wonderful benefits to whoever uses it. As I stated at the first of the thread I have not seen this mentioned by any teachers here but one other and myself and certainly not openly talked about. And as I stated, I believe it to be an important method that everyone should practice. Anyone is free to learn it from any teacher they wish to but if they do not know it exists how are they to learn it? I can't teach someone to do it via posting on the internet. But I can share that the method exists. As far as something to sell, don't you have? Do you not get paid when you sell your work? Or are you independently wealthy? I am not. As I have stated before if anyone here or anywhere else wishes to establish a trust fund to enable me to teach for free please go ahead and do it. I would love to teach for free. I am a teacher of qigong, medical qigong, and Taoist Medicine; that is what I do. And I do it because I have developed a compassion for humanity, because my teacher asked me to teach it, and because it is truly amazing to watch others be awakened, not because it is an easy way to make money. I could make far more money with much less effort doing something else. But that would not enable me to teach self-healing, heal others in clinic, and teach healers advanced methods for healing others. This is just one of several times I have seen members of this forum accusing teachers of trying to sell something. Would you rather we hide and not say anything about what we know? How is anyone going to learn if all the teachers hide and never say anything? I can assure you that I don't anticipate any funds to arrive from the members of this forum. In fact, I have stated here, "Please do not purchase my book unless you feel a resonance with it" because the copies that get to people that do not feel a resonance could go to folks that do; this is where the most good could come from. The same thing applies to anything I teach. If you don't want to learn it then please do not attend my classes and waste your and my time. But if anyone does I would be happy to help them. It is never about money but about helping others. I can't really help anyone by posting on the internet. But I can put of spark of inquisitiveness to others, hopefully, by posting. And the spark can have much potential.

There seems to be an energetic difference in teaching qigong to educated and uneducated folks. In general, it appears that the uneducated are more prone to religious fanaticism and more unwilling to accept energetics. On the other hand I have met plenty of educated people that let their education get in the way of self-realization. I have found that, in general, it is more difficult to teach medical qigong to an acupuncturist, massage therapist, chiropractor, or physician than to teach folks with basic college education. I believe this has to do with the forest and the trees (can't see the forest, trees are getting in the way). I think part of this is that the educated have had more chance to travel and be immersed in other cultures whereas the uneducated are more prone to live in one place and have traveled less. This leads to thinking "my culture and way of thinking is the only culture and way of thinking".

As opposed to unconscious eating, which is what most people do. Shovel it down. Both are valid but are two separate things. I also respect what Darin said about cultivation, but that is also a different thing than cleaning/transmuting the food. Cleaning is easy, transmutation requires more energy cultivation on the part of the practitioner. My whole point is that this is a Taoist method that I believe all teachers of qigong should teach to their students and if anyone calls themselves a teacher of qigong and doesn't know how to do this I believe they should study more.

I'll second this. Just because a person has not met a man of power doesn't mean they don't exist. I remember attending a wailing ceremony where the wind was called in from the N,S,E,W; almost blew us away.

So do you think only belief, humility and being grateful is required for an actual effect to occur on the food? This has not been my experience. I am talking about being able to SEE and taste a difference in the food. I have watched many men of highly accomplished religion say the "blessing" at dinner but nothing happens to the food. My experience is that it takes energy and INTENT to actually manifest the cleaning.

And I do peeing qigong as well All this makes tremendous difference. You are one of the only other folks on this forum that I have heard talking about this (from "meat thread"). I think we all should be aware of these things and more teachers should teach their qigong students this.

Ability to manipulate energy through time & effort energy practice. ++++ Same as saying accomplished energy practitioner.

Cool But do you think that possibly we, as vibrant energy beings, should take responsibility for doing the actual act of blessing instead of asking the Lord to do it for us? Prayer = casting of INTENT. So if done with the INTENT of cleaning the food, and you are an accomplished energy practitioner, then same thing.

Blessing the meat helps a lot. Sure does make a big difference. I like your reference to syncing things up; it surely does.

Doesn't take long. Depends on how clean it is. For instance, food picked fresh from a garden, washed and prepared by a cook who has love, will require not much if anything. Same food prepared by someone cussing, smoking a cigarette, or angry, will require a good bit more oomph to clean it. Bad food grown with pesticides and prepared by the 2nd example cook will require much more energy to clean it. The time required would depend on what level a person has reached with his qi and INTENT. Anywhere from a couple of seconds to several minutes. No more insane than any other model. One thing I would suggest. Try growing a small garden. Till the soil. Plant the seeds. Project qi to the plants. Water and care for the plants. Say a prayer and harvest the plants. Prepare the food and enjoy. See if that process makes a difference in how you feel about it.

And eventually swallowed by Prodigy/AOL (I think). Those apples were pretty amazing at the time. I was involved in the whole computer revolution; but never saw one until engineering school and that was a mainframe where we had to punch out cards to be read into the system. The micro revolution was a really amazing thing. Your generation used them in grade school and grew up with them; my generation started the revolution but still to this day there are many folks my age who are computer illiterate. I guess I was about your age when I first opened a clinic to do Taoist Medicine.

I think compuserve went live in 1979. You were -3 at the time.

You know you have been around awhile when you are giving a presentation at a conference and some older guy (you think this as he walks up but he is probably the same age as you) walks up to you and says something like "I know who you are. You were posting on the internet before it was an internet." He was talking about compuserve. I doubt too many of the folks here remember compuserve and 300 baud modems.

I agree with Karen. We do possess the ability, by tuning in to the Higher Level Self, to make the best decision at any given NOW. The brain oriented not-real self would have an extremely difficult choice to make and couldn't have enough information to make the best choice NOW. Furthermore, I suggest that at any particular NOW the best choice could be different.

I suggest an elimination type of diet to see what foods may trigger the migraine. The "diagnosis" that was received may or may not have any significance. Many natural healers also always want to throw in the emotional tie-in. That may be true but as likely a chance that it may not. It could be entirely physical. I am also speaking from over 25 years of working with these type of pain syndromes as well as having personally experienced them for a very long time. Migraines can be caused by a large number of things. If anyone has time to do "totaly passive restorative asanas, self massage" then he/she has time to do qigong. It should help some but it may not clear up the problem. Imitrex helps some people but did absolutely nothing for me. Neither did the TCM thing do anything for me with the exception that circulatory enhancing herbs help some, but no more than a drink of brandy. And yes, I certainly tried acupuncture and Chinese herbs from some of the big-name folks in the USA as well as China. Teacher Wang was the only person that could ever totally stop my migraine; a single medical qigong treatment from him would last 6 months to a year with absolutely no migraine. The western medical system also consistently failed me on this until finally, an MD who also was a qigong practitioner put me on a low-dose amitriptylin which helped immensely. I have a good result rate with helping these folk in my clinic and ALWAYS find something different in each person that is "causing" the problem. It can be emotional or nutritional but it can be physical or energetic. The easiest thing to check is food allergies/triggers as this is something the person can do for themselves. Then the self-practice of qigong can certainly help. The magnesium supplementation and external creme already suggested is found by some to help. After this, the person needs to find professional help.

Laughed when I first saw the post, but then started adding up what I have in my own education. 160K isn't so bad IF it did the trick.

No. It is a form that has to be experienced. Observing it by watching someone else has no meaning. I may see if any of the March 21,22,23 workshop class wishes to be filmed. I think most would decline but you never know. The Gift of the Tao (I) movement form is on DVD. I am currently working on Gift of the Tao (II).

I think you are correct that many forms claim Wuji but until it takes you there it means not much. I do like the wuji form that Teacher Duan passed on but I don't practice it. To me, the Stillness-Movement that I practice takes me there instantly. But here is the thing, I believe each person has to resonate with any particular form for it to be able to take them there. As far as Jiang goes, he is a super nice guy that I really like. His forms are very good, he has produced over 300 DVD's. I have seen him demonstrate some amazing Kung Fu. I think his Kung-Fu is better than his Qigong; his Qigong is good for body enhancement.

As well as Chinese Guys in Business Suits calling themselves "Master"; can make you one in a weekend.

Anyone who has a moderately developed qi can make it go in any direction. I wouldn't put much stock in this as it could very well be whatever the person doing the "testing" wished or thought it to be. Perhaps you should think more on basic cultivation; the energy centers will evolve and open when they evolve and open. Much better, IMO, to let this process evolve naturally through cultivation.