Ya Mu
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The practice of internal qigong can help immensely in anyones journey to find the "truth". Everything can be considered vibration. If I can get this right, there is an old saying, Man can do external exercise but then needs internal exercise. If man practices internal exercises he can sometimes forget to do external exercises. Practice internal exercise for awareness. Practice a movement form, IMO qigong to keep your life force energy flowing through the body's energy gates, joints, muscles, organs and to move lymph and blood. MA can be a very good physical exercise to keep fit and can be invaluable at a needed moment. In the end, find what works for you and stick with it.
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If I am thinking of the right Chinese teacher, probably the closest to Duan's qigong is going to be Garripoli's. I took a workshop once with teacher Duan and he had Garripoli helping him. If this is the same guy I am thinking of he was a hoot - smoked his pipe in between therapy sessions. Also one of those old Chinese men who tells you to hit them (while doing their best to look old and frail). One doesn't make that type of mistake twice. Not gonna tell you how I know. Wuji will not be the same across the practitioners.
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Speaking from the standpoint of a therapist having seen several thousands of injuries, I can say absolutely that any type of martial strike can have repercussions years later. Whether it will is a different story.
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Cavitation is one valid explanation. But not the only one. Snap your fingers. What makes that sound? Bones with tissue buffering rubbing against each other. Pulling of tendons across surfaces, tendons stretched taunt and "imploding", and bones against bones are all responsible as well. I agree with the post saying if it was a natural release then OK, but don't force it. As far as done by others, manipulation therapy can be very effective when performed by a professional. Don't try this on yourself (you can not properly do manipulation to yourself) or others unless you have been trained. Over-manipulation can lead to tendon imbalance and improper tone. I have seen several cases of over-manipulation in my practice.
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Chinese Taoist Medicine & Stillness-Movement Medical Qigong
Ya Mu replied to Ya Mu's topic in Group Studies
If a person only has linear thinking it is a very difficult thing to understand. But, in my years of qigong I have not seen anything else as powerful. I think folks with specific energy body configurations are more attracted to this. Hard to put in linear terms. I do, however, only give each student as much as they can handle right now. In other words, I work with each student individually and project to each separately during the workshops, based on where their energy body development is NOW. SO I combine beginners and advanced students in the same workshops. It makes for a real interesting experience for all and gives the beginners others to talk to about what they feel going on; others that KNOW what the projections do. Many want to get information from the internet, a book, or a video. I am afraid that the age-old ways are not as popular as they should be. Especially the information projection stuff, which most people do not understand. -
Chinese Taoist Medicine & Stillness-Movement Medical Qigong
Ya Mu replied to Ya Mu's topic in Group Studies
Missouri; yes that is where the next workshop will be. All the details including a link to a specific class flyer is here: www.stillnessmovement.com -
Perhaps it means more than one thing. One thing it refers to is the alchemical transmutation law As Above , So Below
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Chinese Taoist Medicine & Stillness-Movement Medical Qigong
Ya Mu replied to Ya Mu's topic in Group Studies
Simplified case study Broken Leg Child with broken leg. Cast in place. Presentation was pain with broken bones. Parents were interested in reducing recovery time and reducing pain. Therapy utilized: Taoist Medicine and Taoist Energy Arts. 2x weekly for 3 weeks Pain was reduced 1st session and eliminated by 3rd session. Cast was removed early and physicians were astounded at the rate of recovery. It is very interesting that a neighboring child broke their leg the same day and had to have cast on for several weeks longer. Note I said interesting as there would be no way to make a direct comparison. Another simplified case study Broken wrist This client had severe break and bruising. Cast in place. Presentation was numbness, unable to move hand and fingers, severe swelling,pain, and discoloration. Client utilized hands in profession and was anxious to regain full use. Therapy utilized: Taoist Medicine and Taoist Energy Arts 2x weekly for 3 weeks Pain, swelling, discoloration, and some numbness were reduced 1st session. Each session saw increased mobility. All symptoms were gone by end of therapy and client returned back to work with full use of hand and wrist. Broken bones heal MUCH faster with these therapies. Anyone wishing to learn Taoist Medicine, Qigong, Medical Qigong, and Taoist Healing Arts should consider attending our spring workshop for an introduction to these systems. see www.stillnessmovement.com for details -
I thought we were talking about qigong as that was what my original post was about. You must be talking about something else entirely. Sorry for the confusion.
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I only understood what you wrote but perhaps not what you meant.
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Nice story. So it is a flaw to tell the truth about something? OK, let's say I'll go along with you on this. In fact why don't you and I INVENT an ancient qigong system. I suggest Chinese sounding, some thing like: Nee Hun Piao Liang Chi Kung You can be the Grand Master and I'll be the Master. Our whole premise will be, "If you think you are pretty, then your energy will flow." And we will train others in this powerful system. The healing part will be "The Universe will flow all the energy you need to heal someone. All you have to do is think of roses." We can offer the week long sessions for $1000.00 a pop. And if the student wishes a certificate that part of the "inner door" training will only be $5,000. Is there anything wrong with this? According to my interpretation of your premise, no. Everyone already has this Force so we really don't need to do anything or tell them anything for them to become awesome healers. We will simply be allowing and giving them opportunity to discover the "Force" for themselves. Sounds far-fetched, doesn't it? Of course I have oversimplified it, but this isn't too far from what actually goes on. We are simply trying to say it is buyer beware. If anyone is really interested in learning they WILL have to put much time & effort into doing so. The real teachers are available IF anyone is willing to put in the effort and discernment to find them. But they are NOT on every corner, the more powerful systems are much harder to find, and there is a LOT of misinformation out there. I'll agree with you that everyone already has some "Force" or they would be dead. May the Force be with you.
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GOOD POST!!!!! I can't seem to get folks here in the west to understand that quite a lot of what they see called qigong or Chinese Spirituality (whether Taoist or Buddhist) quite probably originated either by, as you say, low-level teachers/scholars who migrated to the west, or by folks going to China, seeing someone do exercises in the park, and going up to them and saying "Are you a master?". And of course the person sees dollar signs and says yes, of course. So he shows the westerner a few exercises that may or may not have any meaning and said westerner comes back to California (sorry, you real knowing folks in California, but since a lot of things in the USA originate in California or New York I choose to use California as the example), becomes Master, teaches to students who become Master and he becomes GRAND Master and pretty soon a lot of pure bullshit is being taught as the real thing. I believe this has happened FAR more than most people realize. And no, I'm not pointing the finger at any particular teaching and don't wish to get into any arguments about any particular qigong is better than what any particular person practices. I am just supporting and adding to what was said in the above post. I also believe that each of us should use discernment in finding a form to practice and not practice it unless we resonate with it.
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Rather than try to explain why they could or could not exist, I ask the question, Why is it that some people see them and others don't? Many explanations for above. Here are a few: 1) They don't look up in the sky very often. 2) They do look up in the sky but choose to use the linear brain to describe what they see. 3) Perhaps it is a matter of VIBRATION, as in the particular vibratory state any particular person is in. 4) Chance - I'm not sure I buy this one. 5) Perhaps they only reveal themselves to kin Since my life is an open book as published in a book and on the internet, I have no problems saying that I have seen linear as well as non-linear unexplained objects in the sky so many times I have no idea how many times. Since I was too young to know the term UFO I have seen them, and in High Vibratory States have met travelers. Therefore I personally choose number 3) above. I also encourage people to think of the possibilities of inter-dimensional travel as well as outer space travel, as this is a shifting of vibratory states.
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I took a workshop with him years ago. If I remember correctly it was pretty interesting, but mostly just TCM stuff. I notice he is giving workshops with Golden Flower Herbs. I like Golden FLower herbs and think them to be quite good. Reminds me to order some more Gan Mao Ling...
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Off Topic: If You Value Your Online Security You Need To Run Linux
Ya Mu replied to mwight's topic in General Discussion
Good advice. Yeah, things I already knew. Just was kinda lazy and didn't do it. -
Off Topic: If You Value Your Online Security You Need To Run Linux
Ya Mu replied to mwight's topic in General Discussion
Linux CentOS 5 + Plesk 8.6 The problem was not the operating system but that Joomla 1.5 early versions left a wide open path. Joomla uses mysql database but is also a web-based system; all editing can be done online. My mysql database was intact, but the css files, template files, and configuration was screwed. I have already done a new latest Joomla install. This is a secondary static site so it really wasn't any big deal. I always look at what some perceive as negative as an opportunity; I was briefly somewhat miffed but this mode of perception of looking at everything as an opportunity allows no negative energy feedback. -
Stig, We have inquiring minds; do you plan on posting your answers to those questions? I really like these:
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Off Topic: If You Value Your Online Security You Need To Run Linux
Ya Mu replied to mwight's topic in General Discussion
G, Don't worry, I have no concern about this. I don't keep sensitive information on computers connected to the internet, I often do computer upgrades and do clean windoze installs every few months, so no big deal to me to re-do anything. My web-sites are static and easily re-done. How do I know that Spirit wasn't saying "Time to re-do the Site." In fact, I think it looks better already!www.stillnessmovement.com The google re-direction bug has been experienced by many and apparently comes from opening .pdf files with earlier versions of adobe software (UPGRADE often is the advice ). And the laptop wasn't really mine but belonged to a family member. I think the .pdf was on an agricultural site. The problem is that the antivirus programs DO NOT find this bug, it has to be removed manually; very easy to do. It is known that earlier releases of Joomla 1.5 offer a gateway in and that there are robots on the net searching for these versions of Joomla. I simply hadn't kept up with it. But Joomla is pretty cool; it is FREE! I am thinking now though that I will go back to Ubuntu or Mint for personal internet use. It is OK, I go all the way back to Unix on the old Dec PD-11/70 micro computers. -
You are forgetting that many if not most of the men of knowledge were jailed and tortured or killed and are making it sound like they were all powerful wizards that could have intervened if they simply wanted to. It seems many have a very romanticized and storybook view of what a Taoist master is. What my teacher, who was jailed and tortured and who remained in prison for 17 years said was, "All of China was insane at that time." He only survived due to his qigong being very powerful. They would attempt to starve him, going without food OR water for many days and physically tortured him. They took his family to a labor camp and he did not know what happened to his family for the whole 17 years.
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Off Topic: If You Value Your Online Security You Need To Run Linux
Ya Mu replied to mwight's topic in General Discussion
Just had 2 separate events happen. Software running on Unix server. I am using Joomla as my web software for www.stillnessmovement.com. It was hacked last week. I spent all weekend trying to re-install my backup. After upgrading to new version (1.5.9) of Joomla and trying to fix the problems for 2 days I finally gave up did a full install of the newer release of Joomla. So this stuff CAN be hacked. The fault was mine as I had not kept up-to-date on the Joomla releases. But the version I was using was not THAT old (several months). Another separate event with a windoze vista laptop. Got bit by the google re-direct virus (rootkit) that none of the antivirus programs could find. I found and manually deleted a file that was hiding as a system file. This virus re-directs google searches to malicious sites. G was right, they are out to get us! -
In addition to some of the points that have been brought up, a couple of things that I constantly deal with are: 1) Oh, is that some of that New Age stuff you are doing? Of course what I am doing when they say that is some of the "oldest age" stuff that exists. 2) Oh, you do "energy work". I absolutely do not resonate with this one. No, I do medical qigong. It actually has a basis. Just what the heck does "energy work" mean? (yes, I know what the word qigong means) Well, in the massage therapy field it means usually quite a lot of New Age nonsense with maybe a couple of valid things thrown in. Take a weekend workshop and now you are qualified to do "energy work". &^%$#@^#!
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Sure there exists a lot of ignorance. But I can speak as a person who has had injury and pain; it either works or it doesn't. It would be really dumb to keep seeing a practitioner that didn't help. In my clinic I offer guaranteed pain relief or no fee; I think all therapists and doctors who work with pain patients ought to offer this but it seems unlikely that would happen. Good ideas. The students are required to do clinic work before certification. I think the agreement of who to use for testing a person's ability and logistics of having a committee monitor this are difficult. Don't think this was not suggested
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True But a results-based system is difficult to implement. I was on the standards committee for a couple of years. Extremely difficult to arrive at proper standards for medical qigong. In the end the NQA is relying on the teachers. The teachers have to have demonstrated training and proficiency. I can guarantee that anyone who graduates from my program WILL have the ability or they do not graduate. When they do graduate from my program or another program that meets their requirements, the NQA accepts the person's application for certification. Not a perfect system but it is all there is at this time in the USA. Where the results based system shines is really after a person has offered their service to the public. It either works or doesn't. No-one is going to go to a person as a patient/client unless they demonstrate results.
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In China many of the qigong doctors are hospital trained and certified. I trained at the Baoding Qigong Healing Hospital and at separate clinics and have a communist government approved certificate. There are others who have learned healing techniques outside the hospital system. Most acupuncturists in the USA have no clue about qigong. The ones that do learned separately from acupuncture school. I understand the acupuncture schools are now adding more qigong than in the past but it is still hit or miss depending on the school. AS far as difficult to test - not really. Either it works or doesn't. A person who says they can but can't wouldn't last even one day in my clinic or in a hospital situation. I'll agree to a certain point about the certificate thing and could easily argue either point of view. Like I said, a person either can or can't and a certificate certainly can't change that. In the end it is just like any other profession. The qigong healers that have results will have patients/clients and those that don't will eventually end up out of the system. In the meantime there are many people mis-representing themselves (yes, even some of those with certificates) to the public so it is buyer beware. I think that the certified by an independent agency thing still has some benefit to the public, as it does weed out some of those that are out to scam folks. As far as someone being a qigong "master", my standards, just like some of the posters above, are pretty high. Once you have experienced qi with someone like Teacher Wang Juemin you realize that most of the people here in the USA that are called "masters" (as well as many of the ones in China) do not meet your personal criteria for such. I just put up a picture of qigong with Master Wang on www.stillness-movement.com where I am announcing a newly scheduled qigong workshop.
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I agree. The above mentioned certification standard IS a standard, however. It gives a good starting place for a beginner or even intermediate practitioner to find teachers that have given proof of training and longevity of teaching. Doesn't mean a thing as far as skills go. But wouldn't most people rather start their search from among people who had given proof of training than from those who said they knew? And as far as clinical/medical qigong practitioners, as a potential patient looking for one wouldn't you rather start your search from among those that had given proof of training in medical qigong rather than from those that said they knew but are rather vague on where their training came from?
