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Aaron, AFTER Apech pointed out to you why he moved that thread then you have the gall to write this? He TOLD you why it was moved. These type of personal attacks have no business on this board and help no one. 1) Medicalacupuncture.org is a PHYSICIAN site of PHYSICIAN only members - NOT "alternative medicine". If you would bother to look at it you would know this. 2) You keep referring to me as a "TCM teacher", even after I corrected you and went to the trouble of explaining what TCM is as well as what I do. Once again, I do not teach TCM. 3) Your continued attempt to make it sound like you are being reasonable while at the same time attempting to stir up trouble is easy to see through. You make reference, as you did in the past, to me being responsible for another person being banned - this is a total fabrication on your part, even though the last time you started this bullshit you were informed it wasn't true. If I even participated in the thread you are making reference to it wasn't very much participation. Please refrain from your lies. 4) If you REALLY wished to only start a thread about TCM efficacy you would have left my name out of it as I am not associated with TCM - but you saw it as a prime opportunity to start some more of your uninformed and ignorant nonsense. If you REALLY wish for a thread on TCM efficacy please remove my name from your posts. The fact is you don't know a thing about TCM or qigong or medical qigong or neigong. I studied TCM for over 10 years and don't particularly like it. But you don't see me trashing it, as it certainly is a valid system of medicine. You would know of this validity if you bothered to do the research instead of ulterior motive thread starting. 5) Quit insinuating that I receive some type of special treatment on this board. It is another of your fabrications where you wish to attempt to sway opinion of this board to your ignorant ramblings viewpoints. I sincerely doubt that your statement that others feel this to be true is nothing other than another one of your psychological ploys to make people THINK that others believe this. Can't you see that people can see through this? People here are not dumb. 6) I do know what "real" Taoism is and certainly CAN claim authenticity as I actually studied Taoism (didn't just "read a book or two") and practice it everyday. 7) Please stop this throwing of insults.

Yep, never have been, never will. ----------------------------------------------- Aaron, We practice complementary therapies, as I have posted over and over. If certain people would actually bother to read the threads they would understand this. We practice real Taoism. Taoists are practical people. It would be foolish for any practical person to ignore whatever works (yes, this does imply that folks who ignore what works are not practical people). These foolish threads that keep popping up saying systems of medicine practiced by millions of people have no evidence are based on sImple ignorance, as this fact has been pointed out many times along with resources to help edify. Someone posted in the other thread about if they had a broken leg they would only seek western medicine. Of course we seek what works - western medicine to set the bone, THEN, instead of staying drugged out but still in pain and unable to function in society, the high degree of efficacy of medical qigong or acupuncture, or other methods that do work would come into play. Mostly, knowledge of this is a matter of education. However there are those who prefer ignorance. Ignorance is the real culprit here. And sometimes even when people have a chance to learn something they wish to bury their head in the sand . Our work in education is certainly cut out for us. Aaron, for your edification, you should know that TCM generally refers to the traditional Chinese medicine as currently mandated, taught, and practiced by the Communists. Other forms that predate the cultural revolution, are generally referred to as classical Chinese medicine and, during the last 13 years or so in China have become rare due to government control. Then there are sub-specialties such as Taoist Medicine. Of course it is possible I have referred to what I teach as Traditional Chinese Medicine instead of Taoist Medicine or medical qigong or neigong on these boards but I do think you will see it written by me mostly as Chinese Taoist Medicine or medical qigong or clinical qigong. Here you go, something you and Aaron didn't know existed, eh? Did you bother to research the subject? Neither of you did. http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/ You both are entirely misinformed. Western physicians are NOT ignorant of complementary therapies that work. In clinic, we have worked with many western physicians and many western physicians study medical qigong, acupuncture, and many other complementary modalities. --------------------------------------------------------------------- And, Aaron, for you to imply that the referenced thread was sent to the pit due to any moderator being a student of mine is insulting to both me and the moderators as it certainly isn't true. You are sorely mistaken, but probably knew that already.

If they are comfortable. Might try some myself. Although most I have tried have not been comfortable so I use running shoes (and touch Earth), or go barefoot when it is comfortable. "Hand me down my kung fu shoes cause I've got the walkin blues..." sorry, I am an old electric blues man.

With which do you feel better? Taoism is mostly about being practical, within nature. If one's feet are cold then socks and shoes are a really good thing. If it feels really good to touch Earth then why wouldn't one do so? If it were bad the animals would all be dropping around us, eh? I do not like any synthetic clothing. Sometimes being practical requires one to have some. As far as grounding out static electricity goes, one can discharge themselves by periodically touching Earth. That is what I do. As far as cultivation goes, static fields can initially make a difference. After a certain point, if one is really practicing qigong and not just calisthenics, it becomes easier to pull in Earth energy. If the system is valid it should not take a long time to reach this point. However, there is still the point about synthetics repelling negative ions. With no synthetics we are breathing a better oxygen supply (neg ions versus positive ions). I honestly have no idea how much wearing synthetic shoes would contribute to this, if all the rest of the clothing were natural.

" I woke up feeling great. No pain. Not a trace of withdrawal. Unbelievable." Good job! You are doing very well. Makes the heart glad to hear this from folks, doesn't it? Makes it all worth it. "This shows not only shows the unbelievable efficiency of this type of healing, but how it doesn't matter if the patient knows when it is going on so there is absolutely no placebo effect going on here." And, it doesn't matter if the patient doesn't believe it will work. The more that experience medical qigong's efficacy the better, as it is truly an awesome thing to experience. Very good! Yes, the fact that this system can be utilized immediately is difficult for the mind to wrap around its doubtful tendrils. But as long as you practice you WILL get the results. Just do. Results will be there. You are going to be very good at this.

A student sent me this. Interesting, out of the mouth of babes. 8 year old with headache & sore throat Medical qigong for just a couple of minutes Lethargic, obviously feeling bad. All of a sudden the eyes light up and it is "WOW, this stuff really works!", then runs off to play.

Yes, you make some good points. It is a 2-way street. The student needs to assume responsibility and the teacher needs to do everything possible to make sure the student "gets it" - at least that is what I strive for. I think possibly the point you make about some teachers writing off some student complaints is possibly due to their own training. Many energetic imbalances are not going to be corrected, especially in the short term, by simply showing a person how to breathe or simply showing them a movement. This is probably one reason what you point out happens - they don't know how to correct the problem. NOT that all problems can be corrected, but many can.

Well, in that sense, most everyone out there has a "q deviation" whether they practice qigong or not. We can take most anyone off the street and find energy stagnations where xie qi is residing and it can be due to mental, physical, or spiritual. It is one of the very things that the long-term practice of qigong can address and that the practice of medical qigong will address. Everyone is subject to "external pernicious influences". Although I don't perceive change as a "deviation", that is not to say that I haven't seen many cases of improper energetic practices leading to physical and emotional complications; I would say the majority of these are usually from what some call qigong and from other energetic systems that don't understand xie qi or that follow a non-natural forced energetic development path. Certainly one's own state of being should always be taken into consideration, but when problems arrive from these sort of practices I don't consider them a deviation but problems created form straight out practicing of methods that do not follow natural laws of energetics. But of course it does depend on one's definition of "qigong deviation", doesn't it, and I do see where you are coming from with this subject. Was glad to see you found the simple problem of the patient who was having problems from taking a medication. Far too many "alternative" or complementary practitioners seem to want to throw in the esoteric when it is a simple duck walking. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it dang well most probably is a duck and not "oh your 2nd chakra is out of balance" type of bullshit. Holistic means we look at the whole. One of my points is that to throw the term "qigong deviation" out there is, in many cases, perhaps not looking at the whole - there could be a duck walking around somewhere. Even if the qigong practice did bring the quack to the surface.

After reading this thread here are some thoughts after teaching thousands of practitioners and meeting many others. I think "qigong deviation" is not near as widespread as people make it out to be. The statement someone made that a person who is mentally unstable will be still that way after practicing but amplified can be true but also can be not true. Seriously one should work with their physician and/or therapist before engaging in any life-changing practice. If "qigong deviation" does occur likely it comes from incorrect practice. I disagree with the statement that different methods don't make the difference as the few cases I have seen in clinic and in class were mostly from an "out there" style of qigong and not from a method handed down and taught from master to student but some type of combined thing that someone made up. If a person combines movement methods with internal methods it is much easier to maintain balance. I highly encourage anyone doing internal alone to add movements. The fact is that real qigong practice can change peoples lives. If this brings uncomfortable social awareness it is in most cases not "qigong deviation" but simple awakening. OF COURSE awakening to who you really are then seeing how the majority of humanity behave can be frustrating, giving a person a sense of being alone. The truth is that we are not alone but, right now, in the minority. This is one reason I always highly encourage my students to interact with each other. OF COURSE anyone's preexisting friends are going to have difficulty understanding the serious practitioner. But those others who practice DO understand. This change in social awareness is not a bad thing but a grand thing. If a person wishes for everything to remain the same perhaps they should not engage in any life-changing practice. If a person doesn't wish to interact with more of what everything is and only interact with a very small percentage of perception perhaps they should not engage in a life changing practice.

You all were a pleasure to have in the workshop. Thanks again for taking the time & effort to attend. Comments in no particular order: Green Tiger, like the pics! The dolphins were attracted to the energy. We are always able to call them up. Gramps, glad you were able to see the Sea of Light in the workshop! Also very glad that the student who worked on you FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME OF DOING MEDICAL QIGONG HBP TREATMENT was able to give you results! Perhaps this fellow will speak up about what he felt during the treatm Rainbowvein, in another thread you asked which move was particularly effective with yin qi. The "Walking in the Qi" move from GOT II is particularly effective although most of the moves are balanced Earth and Heaven qi. There seems to be confusion about Earth qi by others. Perhaps another thread would be the place to talk about it, but in a nutshell, at a resting state, artificial things like carpet, non natural clothing, etc, do interfere with the process. However, we pass that level almost instantly with Gift of Tao and are able to pull in Earth qi anywhere anytime. It is, however, wise to avoid the unnatural as much as possible. I like cotton clothing and despise carpeting, and it is always good to be in a natural close to Earth setting. Enishi, glad you were able to sense the time-space thing. Very good! Seeker: Glad your seeing kicked in! This is the way it works; a person will practice then one day boom it just happens. Cat Pillar: Glad you were able to attend the 3rd day; you will do very well with this!

Now you know what I mean by the word Shifting

Ocean Sea Qi Sea of Qi See the Qi Ocean Sea Qi A Sea of Light Gift of Tao Neigong on the beach See the Sea of Light; walk in a Sea of Light: Sea of Light by Michael Lomax When the Sun Rises From the East We should Feast On Illumination When the Sun Sets In the West Well We'd Best Look to Introspection You Will Find that You are Free And You`ll Walk in a Sea of Light When the Hot Sun Shines From the South Open up Your Mouth And Proclaim Your Innocence When the Cold Wind Blows From the North Open Up Your Door And seek Wisdom You Will Find That you Are Free And You`ll Walk in a Sea of Light

Li-on development is still not where it needs to be. Still too expensive. LiFePo4 is a step in the right direction for safety; hopefully will improve drastically in the next few years. I like AGM as better tech than conventional lead-acid, but twice as expensive. My main reason for plans on utilizing AGM is the maintenance issue. Do you have a pic of your panel install on the car? Very interesting! You may already know this, but battery bank should not really be replaced one at a time. Best to replace all at once. One of these days I hope to have a home system up and running. And have hoped to one day be able to build my own electric vehicle ( first have to build a shop - ha ha). Almost leased a Nisson Leaf. But the distance needed to drive was marginal. Their lease program worked out to close to monthly pay for gas so if the distance had of worked out it would be a no-brainer. They have very attractive lease program right now Sounds like a lot of soldering! At one time I was Nasa certified but don't even know if I could find my soldering iron now. Grid-tie is definitely cheaper and more efficient than using battery storage. And it is real cool to watch meter run backwards. I think I am going for a hybrid (combo grid-tie/battery) system (if I EVER get the funds to do a system) as we have lots of power outages in the winter. What I would like to do is tell the power company to take down those ugly power lines and be fully energy independent. The price of solar panels have come down BIG TIME over the last 5 years. It is the batteries that is the largest problem now, 16 L-16 AGM's was quoted to my as over 6 grand. Ouch! Inverter efficiencies have improved as well. Good luck with your project.

There is no such thing as supernatural powers. There is only awakening to and enhancement of natural being & natural talents, which is what Taoism does. Humanity's majority have forgotten. If one wants supernatural they could go live in the comic books.

Yeah, qigong movements can be awkward at first. Once a person learns them then they naturally flow. If you want to experience the Gift of the Tao email me and I would be glad to try to help. I agree with you about philosophy. It is the energy itself that makes a difference, not any talk or thinking. That is why the Stillness-Movement and the Gift of the Tao neigong go directly to the energy itself - bypassing any type of philosophy (as well as bypassing breath methods, etc.). We do direct energetics - philosophy is for when we are drinking beer.

Joeblast - What brand & size panels did you get? Sounds like with "a battery" this is for a small battery charging system? Or do you mean a battery bank? I am investigating, for the 100th time over the last 20 years, putting in a small system. The smallest battery bank I think I can get by with is 16 L-16 batteries for a 48V bank. Thinking of going with AGM tech, although conventional lead-acid is half the cost. Thinking of an outback radian inverter. Marblehead. Impressed you are pro-active with solar. What size and brand of cells did you use? Is it a grid-tie, hybrid, or battery backup system?

edit: I removed the quote due to author removing with edit; we should respect when someone decides they do not wish the words to remain. Loved reading this. Quite complex yet simple & natural = awesome. I think these natural laws have been overlooked because the majority have forgotten how to Listen. There is old majic in those woods.

I can tell you that the author is most knowledgeable and a great guy. If you want to experience qigong-style acupuncture go for a session with him - you will most probably be amazed. He probably knows as much about the real classical acupuncture (as opposed to communist style TCM) as anyone in the USA. Personally I wouldn't consider this "basic Taoist teachings" but is about exactly what he states: 8 Extraordinary Vessels which I know is of particular interest to the author. Basic Taoist foundations include a lot of training. My suggestion is to find an in-person teacher. If Jim MacRitchie is anywhere close to you I recommend him as a highly honest and capable teacher. The book is free, what does one have to lose by reading it then coming to one's own conclusion?

Essential oils Sage, Sandalwood, Rosemary, etc Poor-Man's diffuser: Put drops on paper towel in front of fan or AC return. Just do it. More practice makes a person more powerful at this.

Oh Yes. Cleaning your space is probably the single most important thing.

One thing I found is that I am able to read on the high-resolution android devices for longer than on a desktop computer (max resolution). Still LCD (or variation) and I can't read as long as on a regular kindle. Difference is smaller size and less radiation due to the size.

These type of descriptions seem to have commonality. I have had more than one NDE and they had some of these common descriptions but also different. I think the research done by Michael Newton can't be looked at as mere religious or pre-conceived superstition; in fact it appears to be absolutely consistent. Some of what people describe in that book is the same as what I experienced (before I had ever read or heard anything about such [ and I certainly did not have religious or otherwise pre-conceived ideas about it]). http://www.amazon.com/Destiny-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184995/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350043088&sr=8-1&keywords=destiny+of+souls

Stillness-Movement system running form consists of the neigong techniques of Stamina, Chi Pushing, Lightness, and Swiftness with a 5th advanced technique that I don't mention publicly. It is learned only after practicing regular Stillness-Movement for quite a while; I only teach it to advanced students when they are ready. Light Warrior's Guide Book may or may not ever get published as a print edition again. But as to your initial question you couldn't go wrong doing your internal meditation first, then running then movement.

Snowmonki - Thanks for all your thoughtful answers. I have been quite busy and no time to reply much here. ----------------------------------------- Stillness-Movement can make as much difference as any other qigong/neigong with trauma. We have seen wonderful results. Nothing- no form of qigong- is a majic bullet, though. Also I will repeat what I just said in the other thread. It is a misconception that beginners move and advanced practitioners don't. I move in most all sessions of personal practice. Shaking occurs on a different vibration; there is usually more deep spiral type of movement than any type of externally obvious shaking. The key is to always let the energy tell you and allow the body to do that particular movement. We also go deeply inward and don't do any movement SOMETIMES. We shake SOMETIMES. We move more often than not; it is all individual.